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greetings hello good day wherever you are in the world thank you so much for joining true Hope cast the official true

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hope Canada podcast my name is Simon I have the pleasure of being your host TR hope Canada is a mind and body based

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supplement company that is dedicated first and foremost to promoting brain and body Health through non-invasive

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nutritional means now more than ever people looking for ways to support their brain health and this is a huge part of

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what we're doing here at trueu Hope Canada for more information you can visit trop canada.com and you can find

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us on all the usual social media sites just search true hope Canada we have a

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very special guest with us today the Vice President of Operations of true hope Canada Mr David Stefan over the

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past 18 years David has worked extensively within the research process of true hope he has a passion for

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providing individuals with drug-free solutions to overcoming mental illness during his time at true hope he has been

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involved in Leading Edge discoveries that are astounding researchers and empowering Humanity to be to live

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happier and to live more meaningful lives as such David feels it is his privilege and duty to share the

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knowledge that not only has changed his life personally but has allowed for over 100,000 other people to transform their

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lives as well thank you so much for joining us today David first question how are you you know I'm doing fantastic

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Simon thank you so much uh for bringing me on and I'm looking forward to a great discussion awesome yeah pleasure to have

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you you so why didn't you tell us a little bit about you yourself and kind of your journey into let's call it the

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the health and wellness field well you know it all uh it really began when I was in my childhood um you

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know just kind of grew up with it my father was one of the co-founders of true hope and and um came across this

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discovery of nutrition having a significant impact in completely correcting mental health conditions and

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uh as one of many siblings who suffered with with those mental health conditions I I was a benefactor of that and so from

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my early teenage years um you know I've been I've been taking different nutrient supplements and all that for my own

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well-being to ensure that I can be who I need to be uh for my wife my children uh be a better brother better son and just

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a better individual overall amazing so from a a young age you've had that exposure to the power of

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of n of natural medicine towards mental illness and basically just feeling better absolutely awesome well

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the true hope EMP Power Plus story is without doubt remarkable I've had the

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pleasure of hearing it from many different people so can you kind of take us take us back a little bit let's kind

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of start from the beginning to give people a picture of what we know know now as a life-saving product and a

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life-saving company um for so many people absolutely you know the the story

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really began actually before I was born um my grandfather uh that I never had

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the opportunity to meet um ended up taking his life 5 years before I was born um and that was on my mother's side

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of the family my mother inherited uh the same disorder that her father had and after 10 years of suffering with bipolar

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disorder with Rapid Cycling uh in January of 1994 she went to the doctor

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um to receive help after going through an intensely stressful situation that uh that was a result of of different uh

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government interventions uh finding their way into our lives and so she went to the doctor to get help uh to deal

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with the stressful situation and deal with the depression that she was suffering from and she end up with a

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prescription for proac two weeks later she end up taking her own life and it wouldn't be for another decade after

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that point in time that um that we discovered uh the the hidden evidence uh

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behind Prozac and other SSRI medications and how they actually uh significantly

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increase the risk of suicide in many of the individuals that take and unfortunately she became a statistic

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um in January of 1994 when she got on onto that medication and left behind nine children um who all were suffering

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in one way or another with the same mental health conditions that uh that had plagued herself um some of her

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siblings as well as her her father that led to his his death and so that's

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really the beginnings of it um and our family was just left in an absolutely devastated uh place and like most people

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people um some of my siblings ended up getting on on medications uh because of the severity of of the symptoms of their

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illnesses and my father as a loving father not wanting to watch the rest of his family just fall apart in front of

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his eyes exhausted every uh Avenue that was available to him uh within the

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pharmaceutical um regimen he he he consulted with with Specialists uh

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psychiatrists and uh there was no hope um given to our family it was just one

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medication after the next after the next um without actually seeing the quality of life increase um at best like my

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older sister was left sedated she had a three-year-old son and had to be on 24-hour supervision because she thought

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that it was appropriate to obsess about ways to kill herself and her three-year-old son um and then when she wasn't on 24-hour supervision she was in

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the psych ward and so you know my f my father was just watching this take place before his eyes and refus to uh to allow

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um that to be the the final answer that this is as good as it gets and and that you know this is what you're going have

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to suffer with for the rest of your life uh as short as it may be so wow so

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that's the okay so obviously this this story starts with quite significant tragedy and obviously the and and the

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family the very large family that you're living in is you know experiencing

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death and your father overseeing and seeing this all when he you know kind of

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decides that he doesn't want the rest of the family to kind of go through a

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similar fate as his wife did um what does he start by Consulting the

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conventional medical system like again like as as they've experienced in the past or you know where is the where does

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the story kind of go from there because for most people there's only one route it's go to your doctor and get some

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advice and you know that a prescription that comes from that so you know what's the where does this Veer off from

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conventional narrative you know there was really uh in relation to that part of the story

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there was a climatic event um that uh or climactic event that took place uh

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wherein he consulted with uh the head psychiatrist of the ills Hospital in

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Calgary Alberta and so now he's working with one of the top specialists in their field and you know just to sum up the

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conversation by the end of it he was given no hope whatsoever she actually just finally became very blunt and

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honest with him uh seeing his naivity in the matter uh she pulled open the DSM 4

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and opened it up to bipolar disorder and read that it was a recurrent disorder said Mr Stephan do you know what that means he said no I don't he says that or

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she said that it means that these disorders do not go away and often time they get worse you need to face the

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reality that um that your children aren't going to get any better than they are right now on the medications that they're on that they have the best of

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medications available to them and that you may have to in the future plan more funerals

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and so my father just you know looking at that came to the realization that

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literally there was no hope further hope to be offered in in medications at best

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his children were left sedated which is no quality of life whatsoever and so is at that point and this is by by about

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early 1995 that this has taken place so just a just over a year after my mother

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had taken her own life and it was at that point that my father realized that there was no known answer answer for

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Mental Illness but he thought to himself you know if there truly is a God

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above God knows the answer and God wouldn't want his children to suffer like this and so that was really a

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pinnacle moment in the discovery of TR because at that point in time you began to spend a lot of time in fasting and

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prayer just pleading out of desperation um for some restoration for

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his family and it was interesting nothing happened overnight but a miracle

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did take place when you look at the totality of of everything that transpired because by about November of

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1995 um he had already come across a bunch of information in relation to nutrition that ultimately primed him for

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what he was going to hear when as a property manager over 26 large buildings in Southern Alberta he's walking down

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the hallway one day with one of his colleagues and he they're Consulting about replacing carpets and he felt

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impressed to tell his colleague about what was going on at home now that's that's an extremely unpr professional thing to do especially as the property

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manager and you're working merely with a liaison um and you know to to also get

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personal and and just break down but my father felt impressed to do it and so he did and he literally had a had a

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meltdown in the hallway and just basically laid it all out and said that if things didn't change that my older

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brother would also have to be institutionalized like my older sister was having to be institutionalized on a regular basis um because everybody was

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fearing for their lives he was homicidal he was suicidal he was stalk calling weapons he was you know he would just

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rage um at the drop of a pin and so uh my father relayed all this uh to David

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Hardy his colleague and David Hardy had something interesting to say he said you know Tony I have a large family like yours but they're all well they're fine

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never had to deal with mental illness like that but he says we saw something commonplace in the hog pens as I've

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worked in the animal feed industry for over 20 years formulating feed for Hogs across western Canada and the western

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United States he says we saw something commonplace in the hog pens called ear and tail biting syndrome where the Hogs

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would get extremely irritable with each other they' bite chunks of their ears and Tails off each other and if you didn't pen them away from each other

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they'd actually kill each other so we're talking about extreme hyper irritability and homicidal tendencies in in pigs

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right he says we learned something in the animal feed industry that you could completely and simply eradicate this

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disorder by putting the proper nutrition into their feed now my father had

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already tried a number of things up to that point there was you know my father was turning over every Rock possible I

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remember there was magnet therapy coming into the house good good stuff right but it didn't correct my brother Joe I

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remember there was tahan non juice and my brother was having to choke down that stuff good stuff but it didn't correct

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the mental illness it didn't correct the bipolar and the the hostal Tendencies and all that and but there was all these

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things coming into the house there was you know I remember seeing the Omega 369 and all that type of stuff and and back

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you know as a health conscious individual at a young age I'm the one that ended up consuming it after it didn't work for my brother and so I can

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still taste that tahi knowy ju from over 20 years ago W um but anyways so there

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was all this stuff taking place but and my father had realized that there that nothing was working but in that moment

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that David Hardy said that it was like a light bulb flipping on and my father knew it was the answer which was a

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beautiful thing because what happened right after is they went down to a health food store they picked up all these different nutrient supplements

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vitamins minerals amino acids they put Joe onto it and it didn't work it didn't

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do much at all if anything but my father knowing it was the answer rather than

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giving up persisted and this is November 1995 finally by January 18th of 1996

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they received a shipment of four different products from the US and they put Joseph on them and within five days

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Joe said it was like a fog lifted and he could now see what was right and wrong so here he was shrouded in this mental

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illness where he didn't even recognize the impact of his actions on those around him he didn't know the damage

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that he was creating in relationships he didn't understand how inappropriate his

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behaviors were up until that point now all of a sudden he could see clearly within 30 days he would have no longer

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received a diagnosis for bipolar disorder and so it was through that persistence the confirmation that

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spiritual confirmation that it was the answer then the persistence in seeking out the answer that restoration began to

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take place within my own family wow okay so I just want to step

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back and to summarize that a little bit so your your father is with his colleague walking down the hall and

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things at home and things with him are probably at their at their worst at the moment because he's just come back from

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um seeking kind of the final advice from the conventional medical system which is this this illness is has been classified

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it's incurable nothing you can do about it and looking back at it now that's

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probably the best conversation that he could have had he has this open

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conversation with a colleague kind of breaks down a little bit or opens up you may want to call it that and his friend

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his colleague um connects what he's saying and talk and that opens up about Pig Agriculture and how if the feed is

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is not prop doesn't have the proper nutrition in then they act and behave in very different very violent

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ways um and then he kind of sees that that light bulb moment again another

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kind of you know chance fate conversation and then you start

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dabbling in different nutritional products and then so and then you set along kind of these four products from

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the US can you recall what they are what they were yeah so there was a multivitamin

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um and then there was a calcium magnesium phosphorus product as well uh

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and that's crucial information moving forward because um what we discovered is balance

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is absolutely key and so you have to have the right ingredients and you have to have in the right balance and that was one of the things that set these

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products apart is balance was part of the the whole formula and then there was grape uh seed extract was another one of

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the ingredients to help facilitate the uptake and simulation of the vitamins and minerals into the blood brain or

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through the blood brain barrier amazing sorry yeah yeah it's yeah please carry

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on yeah that's um obviously as a nutritionist you know we know that supplementation is obviously really

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important but getting the right products in the right proportions and making them absorbable is without question the mo

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most important thing when it comes to any supplement exactly you're not what you eat you are what you absorb right

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lovely yeah and so then the then the final product um which was really uh a

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foundational product was a cidal mineral supplement and so even though there was

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the multivitamin mineral that was being taken as well as the calcium magnesium phosphorus supplement and there you know

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so he's getting a wide array of minerals from that the Cal mineral supplement was absolutely crucial now up until this

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point mineral supplementation had largely been overlooked and the reason being is that um very few manufacturers

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of nutritional products were doing anything to actually enhance the absorption of these rock form

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minerals and so people when they were taking these supplements never actually saw the effect that mineral

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supplementation should have produced and so up until that point the science was overlooked nobody was recognizing that

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mineral supplementation was actually the most profound treatment for severe

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mental health conditions and the reason being is because we don't absorb rock form minerals so what was different

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about the these different products even though they were very similar in nature on the label and everything to this the

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products that had been consumed before by Joe from November up until that point is that they were one they were in a

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good balance and two they had gone through a process that made them bioavailable so that it would actually

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deliver that n nutrition to the brain the body could actually break it down assimilate it get it across the

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intestinal wall get it to across cell membranes get to cross the blood brain barrier you know basically breaking down every barrier that the body provides to

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keep um foreign substances out foreign substances like rock form mineral you

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don't get that out of plants the plant the the soil breaks down the minerals then the plants can uptake the minerals

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they're in organic form they're bound to organic molecules at that point in time you eat those plants and as long as they

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have adequate levels of those nutrients you thrive but due to Modern farming methods methods today that's not the

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case we just all the food is extremely depleted and as as a such um the human

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populace is extremely depleted in Minal Minal supplementation or mineral content at this point in time and that's why

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we're seeing the rise in so many disease diseases all across the board so when we

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take a look at that um those four products were put in into into use uh

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within a month my sister got on them she within 45 days of that time so this is February of

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[Music] 1996 uh she gets within 45 days she gets off of the five medications that she'd

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been on that was our first experience with how addictive these medications are um causing extreme withdrawal symptoms

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she gets off those medications and within a few months uh she's basically up and running um you know almost full

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capacity you know has her quality of life back doesn't require 24hour supervision anymore never would ever

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visit a Cort again other than maybe to visit a friend there but never to actually be um uh brought in uh under

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you know for her own conditions um all of a sudden she's playing the role of mother and and wife and doing what she

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wants to do and taking on little side projects and a little side business and

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uh and she's doing well and you know that that's when things really start to change in our family because you know

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even though there was two my siblings that had it extremely bad there was many of us as well that that had much lower Ling symptoms but they were still there

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but you know just based on the severity of the symptoms of my older brother and sister it made the rest of us look like

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angels in comparison and so that's just amazing and obviously just

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seeing your siblings go through something like that you don't necessarily actually have to have a

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diagnosis or a disorder yourself but the the mental stress that's going to have as have as a as a brother is going to be

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significant how old were your brother and sister when they were started these

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um started taking these four nutritional supplements from the states yeah so so Joseph was uh 15 at

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the time I believe um that he began to take it so let me just run the mouth on it 1996 yeah 15 at

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the time and um and autum would have been

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oh she must have been 23 at the time I was going to say 22 but you know my

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mouth serves me correctly I think it was 23 I think she would have just turned 23 uh the month

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previous okay so 15 in the early 20s okay so they start taking these products and they start to allow both of them to

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live relatively normal lives start to start thinking and feeling and behaving

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in normal ways I suppose you could say and so that goes from for nutritional

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supplements how do we go from Full nutritional supplements from the states to what we call EMP Power Plus now yeah

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so so the uh um the production of Empower plus is kind of an interesting story and it was never intentional um it

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was out a necessity and and so if we rewind the the clock a little bit here um what happened is with Joe and Autumn

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when they got better uh we grew up in a small community and everybody knew you know how terrible Joe was um they did

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they did I mean you know one of those communities 3500 people everybody knows everybody type thing Joe's always in and

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out of the principal's office for violence he's in you know he's on charges that type of thing with with the

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cops um just just a real trouble child and all of a sudden he transforms and

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it's not just visible in his behavior it's visible in his very countenance his

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demeanor the way that he carries himself just the positive energy that he now had with him that people would want to

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engage and socialize with him whereas before it just this really dark dark energy about him and so people started

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asking my my father questions saying hey what have you done with him he's completely different and you know it was

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amazing what would come out of the woodwork that the stories people had to tell when my father would relay what happened they'd be like well do you

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think that works my wife with depression or or my my son with ADD or ADHD and people were almost everybody had their

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own personal experience with mental health conditions that they themselves had a vested interest in in uh seeing it

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corrected and so what happened is within the community it began to spread like wildfire and my father looked at this

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and was saying wow think of all the lives and all the families that could be restored like our

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family has been restored we need to get this into the hands of doctors and get it to become

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mainstream so that nobody has to go through what we had to go through

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unnecessarily and so in his naivity he uh he tried to go mainstream with it through the doctors and um and it

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actually acted as a springboard because what happened is he ended up meeting with um uh with Dr Brian colb out of the

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University of Lethbridge who runs the Canadian Center for behavior on science and um he relayed what was

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taking place with all these people and Dr Brian colb said well you know that's actually Bey me I don't do human studies

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um but Dr Bonnie Kaplan or the University of Calgary does and so he put

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uh my father and David Hardy in contact with Dr Bonnie Kaplan and so they went

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and attempted to meet with her she just refused she says that she had dealt with all the flakes in the 80s regarding

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nutrition and just didn't have the time to waste and so what happened is Dr Brian C said okay here's what I can do

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for you I'm going to supply you the symptom evaluation forms that we typically use in these studies you can

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supply them to the people that are going to be taking these supplements they can fill them out it's going to be postmarked directly back to me so you

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don't get to to tamper with it after and uh we'll see what comes of it and so

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that's what my father and David Hardy began to do is supply the symptom valuation forms to people that want to

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try uh these four different products and what happened um was that the numbers

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were so significant that when uh Dr Brian Cole received them he forwarded them on to Dr Bonnie Kaplan she said

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there's either like some fraud going on here this is like complete snake oil or we are actually on to a medical

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breakthrough so it warranted her sitting down with my older sister Autumn uh taking a look at her file right on black

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and white she was supposed to be a severe mental health patient that should be in the psych wward and should not be

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left alone with a three-year-old at the time probably four-year-old son and so uh when she was able to to observe

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Autumn and see that she wasn't at all in person who she was made out to be in black and white and she also interviewed

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my father and David Hardy she realized that there was probably something here so what happened is she began to study

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the four different products and saw the same results that we were seeing within the community but then something

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happened Midway throughout the study when all of a sudden people began to um revert back to where they were before

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and it wasn't just happening within the study it was also happening in the community with everybody who had come to

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rely on these four products so the University of Calgary ended up doing an analysis on the four different products

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and what they found is that the clal mineral supplement that the the VAR or the levels of minerals in there varied

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depending upon the batch so you can't study a variable right because you're going to get variable results yeah so

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the study was shut down we were left looking for a replacement product that would uh produce the same result that

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the initial batch produced and we couldn't find anything that was really reliable and so what ended up coming out

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of it after a tremendous amount of prayer and fasting and researching um

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was the EMP Power Plus formulation that we have now today in this m the much smaller bottle than it originally came

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in the original bottle would have been double the size double the height basically and about double the uh the

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width it was a very very large bottle with over 400 capsules per bottle the

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for that is because the amount that you had to take uh was copious however it

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produced the results we were looking for and so people were willing to do it just to get their lives back or to achieve a

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quality of life that they had never ever been able to experience in this life and so that's how how that came about was

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out of necessity never ever was there their uh an intention of making this into a business my father was still a

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property manager at the time running you know a large operation there and and and was you know had a good life but yet out

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of necessity they had to produce their own product to ensure that our families

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had the supplements that we needed to to ensure that we didn't revert back into the the depths of mental illness and

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that the people who had come to rely on them had the same same benefit as well incredible that's just wonderful

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yeah it sounds like you and your father's gone through so many different experiences that um Looking Back Now

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were essential to you know what we now know is as empow plus and and true hope

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Canada you know father's gone from this property manager to you know R running this wonderful company totally born out

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of seeing in his own community and in his own family how wonderful and

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incredible the right nutritional supplements can be towards people suffering not only from significant

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pathologies but also stress anxieties a lot of things that people experience on a day-to-day basis that might not be

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described as clinical but you know I think we can all relate to especially now in the early days of in the early

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months of 2021 how anxious and stressful the whole world is so right now in the

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story we you know got to the point where true hope Canada and true hope is

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kind of born out of the the requirement because you know you the whole community and the people doing the studies which

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is obviously incredibly important for validation um unable to get the those

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the batches that are producing the results so you kind of formulate your own product how many versions of empow

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Plus have there been to to date well in in a in a pure sense one

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okay the formula is still the same as it's always been the same 36

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ingredients however the enhancements that we've made in the production uh methods that we apply uh there's been

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numerous uh revisions so in 1998 uh for somebody with mental health uh severe

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mental health conditions acute mental health conditions they'd have to take up to 48 capsules per day to have a radical

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transformation in their life where that they were no longer plagued by that mental health condition but then in that

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that started in 1998 in 2000 what we did is we changed the

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kation technology so the keading agents the organic molecules that are being

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attached to the minerals to uh promote absorption um through the intestinal wall and into the system into your body

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um that was changed and just by doing that alone uh with the same formula same ingredients same ratio same balance all

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that type of stuff we were able to get down to 32 capsules per day um then what

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happened in 2001 we began to micronize those minerals and what's interesting is

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in the soil there's natural processes that take place when everything is is

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within in Synergy with when everything's in balance and every and and the soil is just teeming with life you have these

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breakdowns of the or breakdown process of the minerals whether it be through earthworms or various worms um some

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people are aware of worm castings where the worms will actually go and they'll they'll grind up the soil and basically

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micronize it making it into plant food and so that's a natural process that take place in healthy soil there's also

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different bacteria cultures that'll help break down um as well as uh keate the minerals within the soil so that the

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plants can uptake them so what we began to do was replicate that same model in a

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laboratory setting where now we're binding it to organic molecules but now we're also micronizing it like what

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you'd find within health healthy soil and so we're reducing the particle size and we understand in nutrition when you

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reduce the particle size you increase the absorption and so when we did that

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in 2001 by doing that alone we end up going from 32 capsules a day down to 18

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capsules a day significant Improvement same formula but producing um the same

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results with less than half of what was required three years previous but then

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that wasn't good enough for us we we continued to move forward in 2005 we actually developed our own kation

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technology that was completely proprietary nobody else was doing anything like what what we were doing to

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to Mineral supplementation at the time and we were able to get it down uh it was marginal at the time but we got it

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down to 15 capsules per day but it was still a step in the right direction and remember there's 36 ingredients in each

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one of these capsules so you're not getting a huge amount of each one of those ingredients so imagine taking 36

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different ingredients separately you're going to be taking 36 different tablets or capsules throughout a day um so you

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got to keep that in context there that it it's you're not you know taking Mega doses of vitamins you're just taking a

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lot of vitamins in the capsules and you're just taking a lot of the capsules but then what happened was um in 2013 we

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further improved that keyan technology and got it so that we could uh Supply uh

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it was about six to nine capsules per day would achieve the same results as

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what those 15 caps per day did and then in the past two years we've really uh

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gone out on a limb and refined that process uh to a significant degree where

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we're almost to the point that we're going to have to reformulate uh just based on the the vitamin to

31:01

Mineral ratio because the minerals are so incredibly powerful now that um we

31:07

can take four to six capsules per day today and it will produce the same results with the same formula as what 48

31:15

capsules back in 1998 would have produced so we're we're talking you know

31:22

significantly less is is what needs to be taken like 17th of the amount and yet

31:28

producing the exact same results and so same formula just multiple enhancements

31:34

to how absorbable uh that formula is within the body remarkable so over the

31:39

last 23 years the the processing be kind of behind the scenes

31:46

is the te technology there is Advanced so much that you're able to make them more absorbable and more absorbable and

31:51

more absorbable so that people are able to uptake the required nutrition and the

31:57

ingred the very deliberate balanced ingredients so that people are able to

32:02

get this into their body working for them as quickly as possible really and then you know we see we see people in

32:10

testimonials experience that they have a significant change in their mental function within

32:17

days yeah and and and what people need to remember too is you know when we take a look at the the original formula back

32:23

in 1998 by today's standards that's a high quality product if we were to put

32:28

that on the health food uh store shelf today it's a it's a comprehensive blend of 36 ingredients in the proper balance

32:35

and it's been key lated uh people wouldn't generally ask for more than that that's still is well above many of

32:41

the the The Benchmark of what makes a good multivitamin today and yet we've taken that that was already good back

32:49

then and we've gone that much further with it that and it's it's no wonder I mean some people look at our our product

32:55

they look at the label and they'll say there's no way that this product does what you claim it does even though we

33:01

have 35 Medical joural Publications that attest to to it but they say there's no way it'll do that but that's based on on

33:07

The Limited knowledge that they have of the power of minerals uh in conjunction with vitamins and what they can do in in

33:14

proper Synergy when it's put into an extremely bioavailable format and so we're we're really

33:21

redefining um the application of what a multivitamin mineral can do in relation

33:27

to your overall health and wellbeing especially when it comes to acute mental health

33:33

conditions yeah just phenomenal stuff and I'd love to move forward with the story but just to just to comment one

33:39

thing back when your father had this you know experience with with a doctor saying that there's nothing that he

33:45

could possibly do for his children his family was that in the conventional

33:51

Playbook there was literally no answers because this type of thing had not even been fathomed or thought about and

33:58

studied so know in the conventional system yeah there was a open and shut

34:03

case so your father is this inventor this innovator this

34:08

incredibly you know to to come up with something so wonderful out of something

34:14

so tragic is that's yeah that's it's it's another true hope miracle and it's

34:19

um yeah it's just absolutely wonderful can you I think a lot of people are familiar with the controversy wrapped

34:27

around true hope and health Canada kind of a good time to bring this up in regards to the story um can you tell us

34:35

about that because yeah if if anyone was to Google true hope and power plus the

34:41

probably a bunch of this stuff's going to come up um whether that's based on search

34:47

engine optimization or whatever but you know the health Canada true hope thing

34:52

is really really important it's a really important part of the story because a lot of people who don't know this true

34:57

hope have been an advocate for natural health for a long long time and without this this without that without

35:05

this type of thing happening a lot of the rights and things that we do have as a as a natural option

35:13

uh in Canada aren't available to us without people fighting the system so can you tell us a

35:20

little bit about true hope and the health Canada controversy please absolutely and and you know you're bang

35:26

on every Canadian that that uh enjoys the right to access to Natural Health

35:32

supplements is a benefactor of Health Canada's actions when they came against us and they ended up losing um and and

35:39

I'll get into that uh in just a brief moment uh but you know just to to clear one thing up um you know if my father

35:45

was was standing here and and giving the answer uh in relation to or responding

35:50

to you know being an inventor or anything like that I think he would he would he would always defer back to uh

35:56

merely being inspired um being inspired that really the the Creator is you know the one who who set

36:03

nature in Balance initially and man and his infinite wisdom took it out of balance and we now suffer the

36:09

consequences for it it was really a result of of of uh being inspired by uh

36:15

the creator of the heavens and the Earth uh really is what it comes down to and so um but yeah to move forward it's

36:21

actually uh kind of an exciting part of the story because you think that um

36:28

uh you know when a discovery like this is made and people are seeing tremendous benefits and doing so at a

36:35

significantly reduced costs compared to the cost of pharmaceutical medications and health care costs you think that

36:42

there would be a rally cry around it and saying we need to look into this further let's get this into the Health Care

36:49

System let's reduce the cost of the Health Care System um let's improve the

36:54

quality of people's lives let's get people back to going you know to work or you know going to school or pursuing

37:01

their dreams in what whatever fashion they see fit you think that there would be this excitement around it and we

37:07

thought that there would be too however what happened is once Empower plus was produced and it was brought back to Dr

37:13

Bonnie Kaplan she took and did a small study of 10 bipolar patients on the

37:19

supplement and it seems like a small number but when you see the significant improvements um it's it's one of those

37:27

things that you just just look at it and say well the effect size is so Grand in in all of the

37:32

individuals that uh that there's definitely something to this even though it was 10 bipolar patients when

37:37

basically every one of them is having a radical life transformation you're GNA say there's something to this let's

37:43

study it more so what happens is in October of 2000 she performs this study

37:49

becomes so excited about the preliminary results publishes them before the stud's even fully completed because uh things

37:55

have gone so positive with it it it generates a lot of attention like it should have it goes on to CTV

38:02

national news where they did a very positive article about us in October of 2000 and literally the very next day

38:09

after it went across Canada Health Canada phones my father and says do you

38:15

know that you're in contravention of section 3132 of the Food and Drugs act in order to help somebody with bipolar disorder you required a drug

38:21

identification number even though it's a multivitamin it needs to be classified as a drug because of the applic of it so

38:29

my father says okay well sure sign me up how do I get one right he attempts to

38:35

work with health cidate he does everything in his power to try to appease them only to realize that they

38:40

have an agenda and they refuse to give him one um and so at one point uh they

38:46

even said you know Mr Stefan if you want to continue helping people the way that you're doing here I don't think they use

38:51

the words help people but if you want to continue doing what you're doing here because they refuse to acknowledge that it was helping people perhaps you want

38:58

to move South of the Border as if Canadians didn't deserve a Canadian discovery that could you know improve

39:04

their lives to a very great degree so then what comes into question is what's Health Canada's role are they actually

39:11

looking out for the health of Canadians or are they deterring people from achieving Health right because in this

39:18

case that's exactly what they were doing and so my father came to this realization that they had an absolute

39:24

agenda to shut him down and so he just said okay I don't need the permission of some bureaucrat in Ottawa to tell me

39:32

whether or not I can bless somebody else like my family's been blessed and so he

39:38

just outright ignored him he just outright disobeyed him and so Health Canada you know you can guess didn't

39:45

like that and so what ended up happening is this persisted for a few years where they were constantly giving my father

39:51

cease and desist orders you know you need to shut down you know you're going to get yourself in trouble this that and

39:57

my father just okay whatever file that file that file that ignore it I'm going to continue to move forward with this

40:02

Godly Mission and so we did and then it all came to a climax when in early 2003 Health Canada

40:11

knew that they were going to create a crisis by shutting it off at the border because it was being produced in the states at the

40:16

time and so they set up a 1 1800 Crisis Line in anticipation of all the calls that they

40:23

were going to have to field and then they shut it off at the border and literally they were receiving

40:30

thousands of phone calls from Desperate people saying we need our supplements

40:35

back our very lives depend on it health Canada's own documentation showed that

40:41

they knew it was going to put Canadians in harm In Harm's Way but they did it anyways once again whose Health were

40:47

they looking out for the health of Canadians or the bottomline profits of the pharmaceutical industry that we were

40:53

competing with as we were helping people come off pharmaceutical medications because they know longer required them

40:58

in fact they would become overmedicated if they tried to stay on their anti-depressants or antic psychotics while taking the Empower plus and so

41:06

Health Canada showed its true colors and who they were working for and it was not the people of Canada it was big

41:11

corporate interests so then what happened is we did a protest uh in front of the federal

41:18

minister of Health's office in Edmonton Alberta and literally uh within a few days of that there was what we what we

41:25

uh figure is retaliation a gun drawn raid from an RCMP SWAT team

41:31

uh at our head office in little small town Raymond Alberta they came and they shut us down

41:37

for a few days as they performed a a complete raid with a search warrant not one thing listed on the search warrant

41:43

was found because it was all false allegations that Health Canada had levied against us and it appeared to be

41:48

nothing more than a scare tactic to say go away well we weren't willing to go away and neither were the 3,000

41:53

Canadians who absolutely relied on it and so finally by the end of 19 or sorry not 19 but 2003 Health Canada came under

42:01

so much pressure and there were so many negative news articles on them in relation to what they were doing to the

42:06

Canadian public that they finally uh gave in and let the product back across the border but then in early 2004 they

42:14

came in and charged my father and David Hardy and then in 2005 they end up in

42:19

court over the matter and finally by uh mid2 2006 a decision was rendered that

42:25

uh was a not guilty um it was a full acquit and Not only was

42:30

it an acqu there was a mandate given by the judge who said that my father and David Hardy had no choice but to disobey

42:36

Health Canada and if they if they had obeyed Health Canada that they could

42:41

find themselves under or in the courts again but this time for criminal charges under Section uh 2117 of the criminal

42:49

code of Canada for engaging criminal negligence by creating bodily harm because Health Canada displayed exactly

42:56

what would happen if you prevent access to these products to people that need

43:01

them and that literally in many instances they are lifesaving products

43:07

and unfortunately it was testified to within the courts at Health Canada knew what they were doing and as a result of

43:13

their actions they actually caused multiple suicides testified in court and

43:20

so um it was a though it came out out of great tragedy and unfortunately at the

43:26

cost of Canadians life at on you know the blood on the hands of Health Canada there was a beautiful

43:32

thing that came out of it because that was a a precedent that was established

43:37

that prevented Health Canada from being able to come in to other Natural Health companies which they were doing at the

43:42

time and to just take their products off the shelves with no scientific evidence

43:49

of harm being produced by them um and just removing these therapeutic products and they were doing it left right and

43:54

Center prior to that court case and all of a said now there was a legal precedent that prevented Health Canada

44:01

from absolutely gutting the Natural Health industry wow I don't know where to

44:07

comment from there but that was yeah it's it's quite it's quite remarkable especially when Health Canada is aware

44:14

of how positive this product is and how many people it's helping how what was

44:21

the timeline between um people being blocked of access to this to these

44:27

products and then being allowed open again it was about 6 months and during

44:32

that time what was interesting is many uh law abing abiding citizens became criminals as they uh started up

44:39

smuggling Rings we we we were made aware that there was uh uh natives out of uh

44:45

Ontario that were being employed to to go and across the river and pick the stuff up and then bring it back across

44:51

the river we we were aware of grandmothers grandmothers uh driving across the

44:58

border to pick it up for their grandchildren um and smuggling it across the border not declaring it so putting

45:05

themselves in in in in uh you know Harm's Way in a sense um but out of

45:10

necessity so you know it it really within that six-month period it really

45:15

um changed a lot of people's perception on on on the role of government and what they were actually doing uh in relation

45:22

to the well-being of Canadians absolutely when you look at the behaviors of Health Canada and as you

45:28

you said you know more like acting as uh police officers for the pharmaceutical industry

45:36

because obviously a bipolar disorder or a schizophrenia disorder or many of the other mental health illnesses out there

45:43

the the prescription of multiple pharmaceutical drugs come from that and they're you know in the conventional

45:49

Direction it's it's lifelong as you say like even still if you go to a doctor's

45:55

office the book is still very very similar and you know can make a lot of

46:00

money of somebody who's on on these pharmaceutical medications multiple at the same time um that's a that's big

46:07

it's big business no question about that and then if you are able to manufacture a supplement and make that available you

46:14

know that's actually preventing and curing a lot of people that's very very

46:20

different than the U completely blocking the profits being made from pharmaceutical industry who are you know

46:27

making so much money off sick people yeah so yeah that's that's that's wild

46:33

in regards to that and it's such a big win for everyone in Canada who does enjoy the right to go to their natural

46:40

health food store speak to someone in the supplement section and whether it's a true hope product or something some

46:46

something else there's so many people who um are and should be incredibly

46:53

thankful for everything that you know your father and your family went through because I can imagine that

46:59

there were so many opportunities and so many times where your dad got a phone call or a threat and you know coming to

47:06

coming to small town and um opening up with with a swap team and you know

47:12

that's a that's this it's a play of threat there's no doubt about that you know it's and we we hear not the only

47:18

example of that especially in North America where that's whe that's happened to um whether that's a supplement

47:24

company or a doctor who's doing something off the conventional um narrative so yeah it's it's it's

47:31

remarkable and again some wonderful things that that are coming from True hope throughout this story do you let's

47:38

touch on empow plus itself a little bit so what makes it and we talked about the

47:44

chilation and the processing behind it what makes it different from other

47:51

multivitamins all right yeah so basically uh if you were to boil it down to two main points it's balance and

47:57

bioavailability uh but how we start the whole thing out is um or how it started

48:03

out back in 1998 was taking the right combination of these 36 different

48:08

vitamins minerals amino acids and antioxidants and combining them in a way that they actually work together and

48:13

making sure that you had the right form because sometimes when you add one form of a mineral it'll it'll react a certain

48:19

way with this vitamin and so that was the first thing was basically um drafting the team bringing the the

48:26

proper team of nutrients together that they would actually work together not cancel each other out that was the first

48:33

thing then it was making sure that the minerals were in the proper balance so you know I discussed earlier about the

48:39

calcium magnesium phosphorus supplement that was initially taken as as the four product regimen that Joe was on and

48:47

that's one thing that has to be in proper balance when we're talking about those bone building minerals it's the

48:53

calcium the magnesium and the phosphorus what they discovered in ulture is that if you supplement with calcium alone you

48:59

can actually create far more harm than you do good by offsetting that balance in the body you may increase the bone

49:06

density but the actual structural Integrity of those bones is lessened

49:11

it's more of a crystalline type uh structure that is more brittle and more susceptible to breakage and so actually

49:18

Dr Levy um talks about this death by calcium and he's bang on he's absolutely

49:24

right but unfortunately they throw the baby out with the bath water calcium is is an essential mineral um it it's not

49:30

that calcium itself is bad it's that the form of calcium is bad it's that the

49:36

application of the calcium is bad it has to be in the proper balance with the

49:42

magnesium and phosphorus for it to work appropriately and we recognize that right from the beginning um with the

49:49

knowledge that David Hardy brought from the agricultural industry and so that was one thing that was applied right off the bat the second thing is we're taking

49:57

a look at Mineral balance a very crucial balance is the the copper and the zinc if you take zinc uh on its own uh and

50:05

I've seen this many times in practice uh people come to me and they'll they'll talk about the anxiety

50:11

issues that they have and uh and then then they confide to me all the different supplements are taking and uh

50:17

you know quite often zinc is one of the supplements are taking now there's nothing wrong with zinc but it has to be

50:23

kept in the proper proportion with copper otherwise you actually create anxiety disorders or it can even get to

50:29

the point of psychosis and so when we take a look at that you have we we

50:35

really put a focus on the balance of those ingredients but now at the end of the day you can have the right

50:40

combination the best team possible of supplements coming together and then you can also have it in the right balance

50:47

but it still won't do you any good if it's not bioavailable and so that's where we then really go to Great Lengths

50:54

in our manufacturing practices that we've developed on our own um to make sure that those minerals are extremely

51:01

micronized and that that they're they're bound to organic molecules so the same way that you'd be getting out of your

51:07

food the same thing that soil would be doing under ideal conditions if it wasn't being sprayed with glyphosate which sterilizes everything um you know

51:15

we we basically mimic what nature would be doing had we not been tampering with

51:21

her and as a result we see an extremely um

51:27

potent product that has extreme therapeutic effects uh without having to

51:33

take copious amounts of it and the label just looks like a standard multivitamin

51:38

but yet it's setting The Benchmark for what multivitamins should be do it so

51:44

we've spoken about some quite significant mental health disorders um

51:51

but I you know I personally take empow plus and I know a lot of people that do

51:56

but these are people who you know don't don't have a don't have a diagnosis they don't have a significant condition so

52:03

who really can benefit from this product well quite simply anybody who

52:08

requires nutrition to function on a daily basis the whole population many times we we have people coming to us and

52:15

you know we we've got our niche market uh and and that's addressing the greatest need the people that are most

52:20

proactive and desperate are those that are are literally suffering and on death doorstep because they they're

52:26

contemplating suicide um or you know admitting themselves into the psych ward or whatnot um and or losing their family

52:32

or watching their relationships just deteriorate around them those are people that are generally looking for help not

52:38

always but generally and so we cater to them many times and that's really our niche market but however what we've seen

52:44

over the years is somebody who comes to us and they're already relatively healthy and have a what we'd call a normal uh mood balance where they have

52:52

you know normal low days normal high days ups and downs but nothing that would diagnosed bipolar disorder what we see

52:59

is when they jump on the supplement uh they become much more level more happy uh more calm and collect able to deal

53:06

with stress at a significantly better level than they were before uh they just don't react to the the situations uh

53:12

that they would have uh back you know in the past and um they just seem to have a greater level of cognition overall so

53:19

you know if they're engaged in studies uh college or or just general School uh

53:24

their grades they'll they'll generally see improve uh it's a very common uh theme that we are seeing over and over

53:31

and over again we're we're seeing actually children that are failing school and and rapidly transitioning

53:36

into being a students that's not uncommon for us to see that and so

53:41

everybody who requires nutrition could see a benefit from it it's just the worse off you are if you're if you're

53:48

contemplating suicide and that that's that's a reality in your life you're going to see a far greater benefit from

53:53

it than somebody who's already relatively healthy and it just it still brings them up to a higher level it's

53:59

just that when you're you know in the depths of Despair and all of a sudden now you're seeing the light and you're enjoying life that's an undeniable uh

54:06

life transformation that everyone around you can observe themselves how do you

54:11

see the application of Empower Plus in 2021 considering the crazy year we've

54:17

just had and how you know we've seen especially in Canada we've seen

54:22

significant more deaths and tragedy from suicide um than we've actually seen

54:30

covid deaths so how would yeah how how how would you um Place those to together

54:36

we're really becoming the ambulance at the bottom of the hill again where we were taking a proactive approach for many years getting into the health food

54:42

stores and trying to get people before they ever got to that that place in their lives um just you know allowing

54:48

them to make that choice to to you know Shore themselves up and have that mental Clarity and and stability before they

54:54

ever found themselves in the depths of despair but now with what's taking place with covid is is we're seeing um the

55:00

deaths of Despair are are rapidly increasing whether it be due to uh

55:06

overdoses uh suicide uh even cardiovascular related diseases that are being uh that that you know the onset is

55:13

is this increased stress we're seeing all of that and so now really that's that's where we're going to be shifting

55:19

our focus is being that ambulance at the bottom of the hill um as people are literally crashing around us and uh and

55:26

hopefully we we have the opportunity uh to get the message out there and to be a blessing to them uh to to to provide

55:33

them with another option that um they don't need to succumb to uh the the

55:38

despair around us they don't need to succumb to the these stresses to the the financial issues that that are all

55:45

around us where people have put their their hope and trust in their career or their schooling and all of a sudden they

55:50

they don't see that as a reality anymore because of the ever rapidly changing um

55:56

environment um so that's really what I see 2021 being is um just trying to to

56:03

to prevent people from completely succumbing to the despair absolutely um

56:09

let's talk a little bit about the research so what science and research has been done on Empower plus and its

56:16

use in mental health conditions because as a nutritionist when I studied

56:23

supplements and supplement companies and you know being practicing for nearly

56:29

5 years now you get approached by a lot of supplement companies who want you to become an ambassador or an associate or

56:35

something just want them to you just know they want you to just sell their products the first thing I always do is

56:40

go to their website and look at look at their science it's the first thing I always do and you know nine times out of 10 they don't have

56:46

any so what's the difference between you know we've got empow plus and true hope

56:52

what's the difference between this this company and their research and comparison to

56:58

others well my father and David Hardy always had it in their mind to to have it scientifically validated um I mean

57:05

there was so much anecdotal evidence uh you know as a whole Community is starting to really jump on board with it

57:11

and and see the blessing of it um to the disdain of the doctors who are involved

57:16

in the community right of course but um anyways so they always want to to get it studied to so that it could go

57:22

mainstream they always had it in their mind that it would somehow work its way into mainstream medicine um and

57:28

unfortunately that never took place and that's that's fine um we'll just continue to to move forward with the mission as as we can um in our own

57:36

abilities but uh as a part of that what what took place is that some researchers

57:41

got on board and began to study it like Dr Bonnie Kaplan and when she saw those phenomenal results she kind of took on a

57:47

personal mission um and and started to share it with other researchers other colleagues and

57:54

it started to spread amongst the uh the scientific Community uh to the point where there were studies taking place

58:00

all across the world on this supplement all independent we didn't have the money to fund any studies nor would we because

58:06

it would compromise the Integrity of it but even if we did have the money we would or um but we wouldn't have had the

58:11

money anyways because we were busy putting it all into a legal fund fighting Health Canada just to to

58:16

maintain uh any sense of existence at all and so what happened behind the scenes was these researchers were

58:23

finding out about it and were beginning to study it on on their own accord and

58:29

so now today there's there's over two dozen completely independent studies uh

58:34

from universities all across the world um on a wide array of mental health

58:40

conditions and it's resulted in 35 medical journal Publications uh in prestigious medical journals uh very

58:47

highly credible medical journals and those uh medical journal Publications

58:53

have been on topics such as you know ad ADHD um Aspergers

58:59

autism uh OD uh OCD so many of these studies were actually done on children

59:05

that's one of the questions that people will ask many times is it safe and effective for children well yes it is children eat the same food that you as

59:11

an adult eat so they also require nutrition like you as an adult require right and so um many of the studies were

59:19

actually done on childhood disorders but then uh they they branched out even

59:24

further so bipolar is obviously Where it All Began um but then they went into

59:29

psychosis um they went into uh studies on major depressive disorder um they

59:36

studied um just general anxiety uh which many people suffer with uh

59:42

PTSD which is a very important one there's so many people that suffer with PTSD post-traumatic stress disorder and

59:48

they don't even know they are right they don't even know why they react the way they do to certain situations but it's because they have these trigger points

59:54

that that go back to their childhood and it it helps people out with that it helps pull you out of that situation

1:00:00

where you can now um objectively analyze what's going on in your life and be able to to kind of you know rewire your brain

1:00:07

circuitry so that you you don't just you know flip on a dime type thing when when

1:00:12

something triggers and brings you back to a past experience um but then there's

1:00:17

also uh where it went into traumatic brain injury and this is an extremely important one because so many especially

1:00:24

especially males who have involved themselves in different team sports have suffered traumatic brain injury and are

1:00:30

now suffering the emotional ability uh because of it and so um most people

1:00:37

never fully heal uh from things like concussions there's residual effects and it changes people and many people uh

1:00:45

many family members of people that have had concussions will will attest to that that you know you know their brother had

1:00:51

a had a brain injury had a traumatic brain injury and uh or a concussion and all of a sudden they're just not quite

1:00:56

the same that they were before and so we've seen where Studies have taken place on that and uh complete recovery

1:01:05

complete recovery which is such a beautiful thing uh it just shows that there's hope that even if if brain

1:01:10

material is damaged that uh that it can be rejuvenated and there's actually a

1:01:16

rat brain study that was done on the Empower plus that that fully attests to this and this is this is really quite a fantastic study that took place uh where

1:01:24

they took um 120 uh two to four day old rats and they induced a stroke in the rats by um

1:01:31

opening up the the brain cavity and removing a large portion of the frontal lobe of the brain or by punching holes

1:01:37

in the parietal loes of the brain and what they discovered after 90 days they put them through all sorts of different

1:01:44

cognitive testing and found that cognitively uh the rats that were on the empow plus that had had these

1:01:51

significant brain injuries they were outperforming the control rats that never Had a Brain Injury after 90 days

1:01:59

so they were actually they were they were they were functioning on a higher level than a typical rat would be

1:02:05

expected to function at even though 90 days before they had just had their lives radically uh uh damaged in a sense

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by having the brains uh literally chunks of brains removed from them right and

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so what they then did is they opened up the the rats after they terminated them unfortunately

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um but then when they they examined the brains what they found is that there was a full regrowth a full physical regrowth

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it wasn't just like many people will learn it in in uh nutrition uh schooling

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holistic when you're training for to be a holistic nutritionist or a naturopathic doctor you'll learn that the brain has a phenomenal way of

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rewiring the pathways around the damaged area this showed that uh when you change

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the environment within the brain with a proper nutrition that it goes beyond that and it doesn't just rewire the

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pathways around the damaged area it fully corrects the damaged area and so all you could see with the rats that had

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the frontal lobe larger removed you couldn't see any evidence of any damage ever uh taking place with the prales all

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you saw was minuscule amount of scar tissue where the holes had once been but

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like I said at the end of the day the rats were outperforming the regular rats that weren't on the empow plus even

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though they' had that significant brain damage and so they then went further and they looked at the

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neurons and an indicator of a highly functioning neuron is how complexly

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branched and how long the dendrites are uh the the little branches that send and receive messages so the more of them

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there there is and the longer they are the better they're able to communicate and what they found without fail is that

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the rats that were on the Empire plus uh the dendrites had significantly more dendrites on each neuron and they were

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longer more complexly branched and so right down to the very you know root of it when you boil it right down as far as

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you can basically um all indications uh showed that these rats had a very very

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highly functioning brain even though it had been significantly damaged at one point in time and now there's been human

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studies that that attest to that showing that even uh you know in in your older years when you wouldn't anticipate that

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much healing will take place if you change the environment with the nutrients that you put into your body um

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your body body has a phenomenal ability to create healing that it otherwise

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wouldn't uh create yeah that's remarkable when through the study of you know

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neuroplasticity the body being able to completely rewire and completely heal

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and go beyond that um so many people don't get the proper nutrition but once

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you once you give your body what it needs those ingredients those vital pivotal ingredients in the right balance and formulation your body's going to

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work wonders and it's going to take you on take you Way Beyond what you've ever experienced and you will literally think

1:05:00

feel and behave in a different way because you've got a different different brain it's functioning in a much more

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optimal way in regards to all of the science that we have for empow plus you

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can access all of that through our website and it's actually categorized by um Disorder so you can actually go go

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there and look up ADHD or depression or anxiety or brain concussion and all

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those studies that are related to those conditions you'll be able to check out and look because it's obviously very important that um we we we're sharing

1:05:34

and showing the science that is backing up these incredible testimonies testimonials and and incredible results

1:05:41

that that we're seeing from this product just to shift to another wonderful

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element of true hope um can you tell us a little bit more about true H Hope's

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micronutrient Support Services abs absolutely so what we

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discovered in the late '90s was that um when people were trying to come off medications many of them were absolutely

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struggling uh with the withdrawal effects of them uh and and that was a huge point of failure uh for many people

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they just couldn't get past that point uh as well as many people who wanted to stay on the medications that there had

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to be specific protocols uh for them taking the Empower plus so they didn't become overmedicated

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and actually begin to experience all the negative side effects from those medications which in many many uh regards are worse

1:06:28

than the illness itself and so we over time um developed a support

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program to help people come off these medications safely and effectively or to

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maintain on the medications if they didn't feel comfortable coming off them and to understand how much EMP power

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plus they could take in those instances and at what times of the day and so we

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developed over this time this this micronutrient support services that we now offer to day um we really see it as

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a duty because you know a lot of the people that are coming to us are medicated and they just didn't know

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where to turn first so they went to the doctor got on these medications you know they've been on them for a few weeks few

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months few years maybe a few dozen years we've had that and um and now that they

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learn that there's an alternative that will actually give positive side effects

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versus negative side effects that yeah it may correct the mental health condition but it's going to go beyond that too too it's going to increase

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overall energy and and Immunity and you know everything in the body is going to start functioning better as all of a

1:07:32

sudden it's getting all nutr and so um then they decide that they want to jump on it and they need assistance in coming

1:07:41

off those medications and so we see it as a duty to provide that service to people and so today we we we still do

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that uh and we've done that for now um just about Two Dozen Years uh we we've

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been uh providing that service but um uh now we do it a little bit differently um

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it used to be built into the cost of the product so whether you are using the support services or not you paying for

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it and so now today we we've shifted that up a bit and in an effort to supply

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our products at a lesser cost uh to the the average individual out there through the the retail outlets through the

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health food stores and naturopathic doctors and and different alternative practitioners here in Canada

1:08:25

uh we don't incorporate the cost in there but what we do is we do a um uh basically a cost recovery on on

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the on the program it's not we we have support staff who um work five days out

1:08:39

of the week and you know when you purchase the support you're now qualified for uh basically Unlimited

1:08:45

phone support to phone in and so if you if we have a severe situation with somebody who's going through extreme withdrawals uh from from the the

1:08:52

medications um and they need a little more assistance and noral um then we're able to to help them even on a daily

1:08:59

basis and that comes at just a simple cost of $35 per month which doesn't even come close to covering the full cost of

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the support but it's kind of a cost recovery program that we have so for

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those who who are interested in that need assistance coming off medications

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uh for just an additional $35 per month they can get that support and generally they'll only need it for a few months

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and then they no longer need it and so it's just a temporary cost uh to help them get through that time of life and

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and and they have all the assistance that they need um to get through that time remarkable yeah and that's um you

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can you can go to our website and actually read a little bit more about that and get get connected if if you're interested but yeah such an incredible

1:09:41

service to offer anybody who's going through something significant and you know we would always Advocate that you work with

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a professional as a health professional when it comes to our products and

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medications because more often than not that somebody is looking to get off their psychiatric medications there's

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not a whole lot of um support you're going to get in a doctor's office so as you say it's so important that you're um

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that you're going through that type of a transition or a change with with someone incredibly qualified to do so and the

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people in our micronutrient support service are that

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um just coming towards the end I think just to kind of wind this down I'd love to get a little bit more personal in regards to

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you and your product use so what has been your big takeaway from being

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exposed to True hope EMP and its development and evolution starting from

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you know your father's kitchen how is this know affected your choices as an adult and as a

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parent uh significantly um it's it's absolutely um created a lifestyle that

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that's that's you know a fair bit different or not a fair bit different I guess but different than than mainstream

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uh North American uh lifestyle when it comes to diet when it comes to supplementation and all that but also uh

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we see the fruits of that um so many years ago uh right before I was married

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um I was living the standard American lifestyle uh eating what I wanted to eat and I I always told myself you know what

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as long as I take my supplements I'll be just fine and I wasn't um it it

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definitely kept my uh mental clarity about about me but uh my body began to suffer the the consequences of of of not

1:11:29

living the way that I should and so what happened over time is you know and many

1:11:35

people think that supplements are an absolute uh replacement of proper diet and they're not they work

1:11:40

synergistically when you have a proper diet you're going to nourish the gut Flora you're going to have um you know

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better absorption and digestion which is also going to maximize the uh the effect

1:11:54

of the supplements that you're taking and so it's important to to provide Synergy there eat healthy supplement

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healthy and you'll Thrive right if you eat garbage you're gonna feel like garbage and eventually you'll start to

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look like garbage and I was there I was there right I was I was a good uh almost

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50 pounds heavier than I am today even though I worked uh worked out worked my backside off um but I just couldn't lose

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the weight and and I was you know my my anyways I just wasn't doing well

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so um today uh we take you know uh all the supplements you see to the side of me we

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take every one of them um so basically as a parent the first thing that you know I do for myself in the morning I

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generally wake up before everybody else in the home I'll I'll go to the cupboard and I'll grab the iDine and uh and I

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I'll take that first thing in the morning that perks me up it kickstarts the metabolism I feel good um and then

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uh from there uh shortly after about breakfast time we have a small breakfast

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um we'll start taking the the supplements and and the children will have them as well so that includes the

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EMP Power Plus that includes the free aminos which is a free form amino acid which is 23 free form amino acids in the

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proper balance balanced after human breast milk it's not human breast milk but it's balanced after human breast

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milk um and then added to that is seven vitamins that help with the assimilation

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of those amino acids into the body so we'll take that as well so that we're we're getting a kick start there we have amino acids which are broke down

1:13:22

proteins uh we have vitamins and minerals and then we also add to the regiment uh that or the regimen not

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regiment the regimen we add to that uh an Omega fatty acid that we don't Supply

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and the reason that we don't Supply One is because um there isn't a void in the marketplace to fill there and if we're

1:13:41

not going to supply something uh that that's going to be extremely beneficial that's going to fill AV void in the marketplace we're just not interested in

1:13:47

it we don't want to uh flood the market place with products uh me too products uh if we can supply something that's

1:13:53

exclusive that people won't find elsewhere we're going to do it and that's what we do with each one of our products they're all life-changing

1:13:59

products but uh so we go and we purchase other Omega fatty acids and we we consume those because that provides the

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foundation of nutrition we have our vitamins minerals amino acids and Omega fatty acids those are all the essential

1:14:12

nutrients that you need um and then as long as you're getting a healthy chloric intake whether it be to fats or carbs

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you're fine um and then obviously adequate protein consumption but the free the the amino acids help supplement

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for that so that's how we kind of start off the day but then you know when we go to settle down for uh at night we'll

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take some of the the bone Building Product and the reason for that is it also helps you get into a deep sleep the

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the calcium and magnesium in there will really facilitate that that deep sleep so that you just have a much more

1:14:44

restful night so we'll we'll take that as well uh we'll take an oocl which is another one of our products uh when the

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kids are rambunctious and and and all red up uh we'll give them some ocl which

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is a natural calming supplement um and so it's just you know

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we we we just incorporate all of it in in such a way that it creates a profound difference in the home where the

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children are far healthier uh they rarely get sick and I mean rarely and

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when they do it's it's it's subtle um it helps promote uh or or helps prevent uh

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major stress issues uh many people will understand and uh the background um or

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the backstory of my own personal life and what my wife and I in our family

1:15:33

have had to go go through um and it because it was displayed internationally

1:15:38

uh in the news and you know that was an intensely stressful situation uh not

1:15:43

just financially emotionally uh having to relive the loss of our son the tragic

1:15:49

loss of our son that was largely covered up uh there was a big backstory there and a cover up that took place

1:15:55

uh to try to criminalize my wife and I and when we take a look at that um and

1:16:01

how stressful it was uh nutrients played no small role in relation to helping us

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uh keep our heads up and get through what would normally be a completely

1:16:13

devastating debilitating uh event that would have made most people completely

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shut down absolutely yeah I mean I take the majority of the products myself as well

1:16:24

and I and I see them they actually make me more not only do they look awesome on the shelf right there but they know

1:16:30

they're very bright they're very vibrant and I see them they make me very conscious of myself and how I'm feeling

1:16:37

so you know if I'm taking these products like it allows me to check in with how I'm doing and then there's you know as

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you say like these different products do so many wonderful things and yeah it just allows me to just you know really

1:16:48

check in a little bit on on how I'm doing and making sure that um I'm giving my body the right things it need to get

1:16:55

through different times because yeah there the stresses will pop up they're inevitable in life but you know we do

1:17:02

have these incredible natural products that can really help us through the most

1:17:08

intense crazy situations and um I'm personally really thankful that true hopes come into my life and I H I have

1:17:15

them at my disposal because it's really made me a lot more aware of of how I'm doing how I'm feeling and how I can

1:17:21

actually Rectify that using natural medicine um David amazing we're gonna

1:17:27

we're totally going to have to jump back on and talk about in more detail the other products and so many other

1:17:33

different things um I just wanted to mention we you know we spoke about Dr Bonnie Kaplan and the amazing work that

1:17:41

she's done and the beginning she was really hesitant in regards to jumping and getting involved in another another

1:17:47

quacky nutrition guy um and we're actually having her on next week so you should definitely make sure you check in

1:17:53

and listen to that one because because that's going to be it's going to be really fantastic to listen to somebody who's actually done the research with um

1:18:01

with our products and with so many different um people who have you know reaped the benefits such an important

1:18:06

part of the whole process is getting that research that science done validated and you know like it might be

1:18:13

it's quite a tricky thing to get a scientist really excited about a nutrition something nutritional I think

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um but thank you so much for joining us today David how can people um connect with you uh mainly over Facebook is is

1:18:26

where um I do a lot of my stuff uh just basically searching my name and um

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you'll find me I I look the same in my profile pictures I do today and um I do

1:18:37

do a little bit of stuff not as much as I should on on a number of channels the stand number four and then truth so

1:18:44

stand for Truth uh I I do have the stand for truth uhca eural but I haven't done

1:18:50

a whole lot with it but I will be in the near future probably as well as the same the YouTube channel and a Facebook

1:18:57

Channel or page as well but uh right now um most my stuff that I do is is over my

1:19:02

personal page on Facebook amazing and yeah for any information on anything that we spoken

1:19:08

about and and links to connect with David will be in the in the show notes so be sure to check those out but again

1:19:14

David thank you so much for taking the time with us today I learned a whole lot I mean I know a lot about true hope but

1:19:20

now I know really know um but that's great that's it thank you so much much everybody for listening this is true

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Hope cast the official podcast of true hope Canada I hope you enjoyed the show have a wonderful day goodbye

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