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all right good morning Nicole Welcome to True hopecast how are you today what is

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going well I think it's going well wonderful everything that's good that's

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a great start to the day I love it as an introduction can you just let us know who you are and what it is that you do

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uh I've been in private practice for about 15 years um and the last five of those years I

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have been helping people transition to ketogenic diets and other nutritional Therapies in order to treat mental

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illness and neurological disorders um and I also do an online program

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designed to improve brain health called the brain fog recovery program

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cool is that common for somebody in your position to work with nutrition and diet

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not so common yeah so I kind of got here I had my own uh I had my own

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neurological issue that happened and um by the end of it I was in pretty bad

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shape and I had a lot of how would I call brain damage just from the whole experience

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um and so I came across a ketogenic diet by accident listening to podcasts

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um and I tried it and it absolutely just completely healed my brain and uh and

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improved my mood and I wasn't even aware that my mood was an issue but I had my

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own personal health experience and then I got to the place where you know I'm sitting across from people with mental

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illness and clear neurological issues and I'm not supposed to talk about the ketogenic diet I'm supposed to stay in

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my lane and I decided that that was an unethical stance that I couldn't continue

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and so I went back and I got a postgraduate certificate in nutrition

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and Integrative Health and have been constantly educating myself since then so that I can give this kind of advice

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with authority interesting I have a few questions that pop up when you tell me about that so

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you perform this brain injury that you suffered and then you had to do something in regards to you know you

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wanted to heal so it sounds like you started to investigate you heard podcasts you heard about ketogenic diet you learned about that and then you

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implemented it and you had this you know Wonderful recovery and transformation before that all happened like what was

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what was your diet like like because I I just feel like this thing that happened to you is like it kind of seems like it

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was a beneficial thing yeah so I I was

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doing I had been seeing a functional uh a functional practitioner for throughout

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my entire my entire issues um and I was eating a Whole Foods

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organic diet already taking all the herbs and stuff

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that they want you to take I was already eating what anyone would consider a

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nutrient-dense healthy diet no processed foods none of that and my brain was still super broken and continued to get

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more broken as time progressed okay and before we step into further

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I've got I've got some I've got a really good question about your about your kind of own personal Journey for people who don't know or on

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too specific on what actually a ketogenic diet is I'm sure everybody's

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heard about it but like can you just like break it down for us what is a ketogenic diet so a ketogenic diet is basically a diet

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in which you switch your fuel from primarily carbohydrates to primarily fat

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based and there are different types of ketogenic diets for different purposes a ketogenic diet for weight loss might be

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very different than a ketogenic diet for neurological issues um and so it's basically the production

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of ketones so your body will take fat either fat you eat or your body fat it

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will burn it off your tush and make Fuel and it will um it it will provide a fuel for the

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body and the brain and it's also fantastic because ketones are a little

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bit more than fuel well they're actually a lot more than fuel they're actually molecular signaling bodies and they have

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many many effects in the body that are very very beneficial and that help

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people heal and those benefits things that carbohydrates can't

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can't do they are some of those benefits are the opposite of what a high carbohydrate

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diet will do so for example a ketones uh there's different types of ketones and

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one of them is called beta hydroxybutyrate BHB for short and BHB as a signaling molecule will

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literally turn chronic inflammatory genes off

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you want acute inflammatory genes right so if I go for my run later today and I

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have some muscle fibers that need to be fixed afterwards I want an acute inflammatory response but I don't want a

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chronic non-stop inflammatory response and those are the genes that that a BH that BHB will shut down and calm down it

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up regulates something called bdnf brain derived nootrophic factor which is super helpful for people trying to repair

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their brain or heal their brain or make new Connections in their brain um it also does some very cool things

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with mitochondria so mitochondria are the batteries of our cells and ketones ketones are fantastic fuel

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for for mitochondria but they also up regulate the production of mitochondria

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so BHB as a signaling molecule will help your cells make more mitochondria and

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will make the mitochondria that you do make more efficient and create less reactive oxygen species

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which then reduces oxidative stress which we know is a component in all kinds of problems neurological or

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otherwise beautiful and just in regards to your the brain injury that you suffered and

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you described as you had you know brain inflammation um how was how would a ketogenic diet

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how would a dietary change like you know I've gone from this to say I've got a healthy diet but it's like you know

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there's it's primarily carbohydrates in there um whole grains but I switched to this different diet

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form because I've got this you know this inflammatory condition going on and my body is spending a lot of resources in

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trying to deal with that if I just continued on my normal diet or I switched to something like this which is

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like you know very you know more of a therapeutic action how does that diet change and how does that new fuel source

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and my body is then having to completely change its metabolic process how does

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that end up helping my brain inflammation yeah it does so ketogenic diets help

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uh in at least four ways if not a few more so the four ways that I kind of

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um focus on and and the way I kind of look at it is that ketogenic diets improve something called brain

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hypometabolism they

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data stress neurotransmitter balancing properties

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I just want to do that for a second Nicole I just lost you for a bit there do you reckon you can start from those

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four four processes again like kick off from there for me thank you sure so ketogenic

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anytime you have issues with kind of early dementia mild cognitive impairment

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you have a brain injury you have a TBI whether it's from you know quite frankly medications or from a hit in the head

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right there's different things that happen for people but if your brain is not happy it is very likely that you

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have areas of brain hypo metabolism so hypo means low metabolism means

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production of energy and so ketones go straight into those brain tissues and

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bypass broken Machinery that has happened as a result of brain injury for whatever reason whether it's acute or

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chronic um long-term injury so that first one is brain hyper metabolism the second one is

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neuroinflammation and ketogenic diets are systemic

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reducers of inflammation and they are fantastic for neural inflammation but it's really important

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that the people listening or watching know that if you have inflammation in your body let's say I have arthritis in

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my knee right or I have a skin condition going on

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that causes inflammation in my body and inflammation in your body does

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absolutely cause neuroinflammation and affect inflammation in your brain because the immune system in your brain

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responds to what is going on in your body it makes it makes your immune system in your brain kind of on hyper

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alert and more likely to go off unnecessarily with those inflammatory cytokines right so they are fantastic

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for neuroinflammation they calm it down so that the body can start to actually repair tissues and and make new

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connections um they reduce oxidative stress as a result of that inflammation going down

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they reduce oxidative stress but another way that they do that one of the signaling properties of ketones is that

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it up regulates your endogenous antioxidant system known as glutathione

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and so people who are on ketogenic diets produce more glutathione and with that

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improved glutathione production they are able to feel their brains better so that's the other fantastic one that I

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didn't even mention earlier because there's a lot of there's a really interesting intervention for people and

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then of course the last one is neurotransmitter balancing so when people are on ketogenic diets they

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tend to down regulate the production of glutamate which is an excitatory neurotransmitter and is seen as a

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culprit that over excitability of that particular neurotransmitter is seen as a culprit in just about every

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type of neurodegenerative process or anxiety disorder or any kind of mental

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illness you could look up any of them and look up glutamate and see that there was a there was a component to that and

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it up regulates the production of something called Gaba and Gaba is an inhibitory

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neurotransmitter but the way Gaba feels in your brain when it's in the right levels is this very chill I got this

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life is not overwhelming I can unload the dishwasher I can handle the stress

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it's a little it's it's I think of it kind of like a little bit of a resiliency kind of neurotransmitter right I just I got this and so that up

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regulates that which you can imagine is huge for all kinds of mental illness and

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neuro neurological issues but it also has balancing effects in uh the

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serotonin system the dopaminergic system um and it's in the epinephrine

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norepinephrine system um those all get balanced on a ketogenic

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diet so those are the four main ways there's also ways in which it will balance your gut microbiome

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um in a in a very positive way is what the research is showing and it also helps uh heal leaky gut and a leaky gut

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brain barrier interesting that was gonna be my next question let's just crossed that out the microbiome I just wonder because

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obviously if somebody's consuming a diet that's you know maybe quite conventional

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they've had their whole life that they're potentially inherited from their parents I suppose that they're going to

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have a you know a very established gut microbiome but we know that it can change quite rapidly with

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you know positive or even negative input and yeah without question the Science re

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and the research showing the better the many benefits of switching to a ketogenic diet and what that will do to

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your microbiome is then very very positive that's really cool um there's some wrong ways to start a

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ketogenic diet that they've got because so many people talk about it there must be hundreds of podcasts on it hundreds

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of bloggers talking about it there must be some um errors that I want to say

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errors that come up come along with it and maybe some myths about it like there's some common things that people that that

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common challenges that come up when people look to go to a ketogenic diet that's not that might not necessarily

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fall into the let's say the the science-based evidence-based

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route to doing it properly yeah you know

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I like to have people do it um someone could do a different type of

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ketogenic diet and and possibly get the same benefit but the way I like to do them with patients and clients uh in my

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in my brain fog recovery program is I like to make sure that we do total carbs

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and not net carbs so while uh while the standard is is you know do net carbs

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that fiber doesn't cause any problems in my experience I see some people have got

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microbiomes I think that's what's causing it where they are able to make some kind of carbohydrate out of that

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fiber um and it does affect their energy levels and when I'm transitioning someone to a ketogenic diet for

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neurological issues I want their brain fuel to be stable I want those ketones High I don't want them doing this

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because I don't want their I don't want their adaptation like that we do 30 total grams of carbs

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um and when I do ketogenic diets for people or I help people do ketogenic diets we

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always talk about inflammatory oils and staying away from inflammatory oils and

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those are industrialized seed oils some people think they're fine I think we and

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we know what a lot of the underlying mechanisms are see that's kind of the thing is that

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a lot of people think oh unless there's an RCT showing that this is a problem it's not a problem but we actually do

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know a lot of the underlying mechanisms for different things and and they're

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Troublesome and we know the biochemistry of them and I'm not going to wait around and kind of play Russian roulette with

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someone's brain while we figure out whether seed oils are bad or not for humans we know what they do in the petri

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dish we know what they do in animal studies that's good enough for me so if we're going to heal your brain we're going to keep you off the inflammatory

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oil so that's another way I don't let people I don't suggest people do any kind of dirty keto stuff

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uh we stay off the grains there's no wheat some of my people will stay off Dairy for a little while

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um just meat vegetables and a fat awesome what are some of the more um

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common neurological neurological disorders that you work with so I see a lot of people that I think

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would meet criteria for mild cognitive impairment um which is for not for all but for many

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is kind of the beginning stages of what will later progress into an Alzheimer's disorder I see a lot of people with

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autoimmune issues like Hashimoto's Lyme disease

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um I see a lot and I see their conditions improve as your brain health improves I promise you your body

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improves because your brain health will not improve unless your immune system balances out which ketogenic diets seem

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to do really well for people it's a great immune system calming type

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of type of thing and then of course their their diets are a little different because we're going to avoid a few more Foods if they've got of autoimmune

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issues going on um I see what else do I see I see a lot

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of people with chronic migraine I see a lot of women who are in perimenopause or

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post-menopause that have tried hormone replacement therapy and figured out that

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that is not a root cause intervention for neurological issues as you age

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um they're let's see who else have I seen I I see a lot of a lot of uh

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professional probably late 30s early 40s women maybe a little older also where

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they just they know that their performance is going down they're starting to have fatigue they are

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starting to find it harder to keep up with work and they really just want to perform better

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very cool has you has that work changed have you seen with it with Kobe the last two and a half years have you seen like

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an influx of of a different type of neurological disorder coming in obviously I've spoken to so many

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practitioners on the show and there's usually like an influx of a particular

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type of disorder or patient who's coming in because of the associated anxiety and

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stress and and you know all those things that have come with you know what's happened over

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the last couple of years have you have you experienced any any type of influx or interesting patterns you mean as a as

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a therapist who does nutrition in my private practice or in my brain fog recovery program what do you mean yeah I

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suppose all of that but I'm more interested I suppose with the with people looking towards a ketogenic diet

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or a change in their changing the way their body produces energy because of like there's they've

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just got more anxiety in their life and more stress or more chronic inflammation and it's kind of resulted of like you

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know last couple of years has been hard for everyone yeah well I think that

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um I mean I do get I do definitely have people who identify themselves as having

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long covid um as though they've had it and they just can't quite get back to where they

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were um for sure and and I also have a lot of people who certainly have anxiety and

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depression um and they understand that their brain health is going to directly improve that

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and they understand that piece I get a lot of people who are have file who've

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tried more conventional methods and have found that they're not helping them and and they they do want to explore other

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ways of feeling better they're just simply not willing to continue to not feel well totally yeah that makes a lot of sense

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and I just wonder when you with any type of patient or client whatever you call

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them comes comes in to see you do you do your best to help help them understand

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like why they might have got into the position that they're in why you're making particular changes and how that's

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going to you know affect their effect that affect their body affect their condition from like a psychological and

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like a physical physical way because a lot of a lot of terminology especially when it comes to you know how your body

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produces energy how somebody might have done it for such a long time and how they're going to try something different that's very new to them how do you how

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do you go about like approaching that type of new information because it can be you know that type of big change can

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can be quite tricky for a lot of people yeah we do talk about stress and how

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stress depletes micronutrients and how stress can make it difficult if you're

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constantly feeling overwhelmed or depressed or sad or anxious that it's really hard to cook for yourself it

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makes it much harder to take good care of yourself for sure and we also talk

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about how their current behaviors and their current future food choices likely

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are depleting important micronutrients that they need in order to make their neurotransmitters and to balance their

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immune system so I will literally you know pull up a schematic of how serotonin and melatonin is made in the

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body and show them the cofactors the vitamins and minerals that they are quite likely you know I would bet money

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on are deficient in or not getting enough in a dopamine you like dopamine okay let's talk about how dopamine is

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made what do you need for dopamine oh tryptophan you're not eating enough protein you're eating you know non-bio

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available protein so we really kind of take it from that it's an owner's manual to their brain like you want to feel

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better let's pull out the owner's manual and let's educate you on what that brain needs to to to optimize and to feel

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better and how do we set your life up in such a way that you have a better chance of actually doing that like I do get

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very severely depressed patients and they're like I could not cook for myself

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I cannot do a ketogenic diet and I'm like ah but wait there are meal services

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that will for the first month as we're getting your brain energy switched over

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as we are balancing your neurotransmitters as we are reducing inflammation there are meals that can be

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delivered to your door that are probably less expense most likely less expensive

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and better quality than you are spending on takeout right now not able to take care of yourself let's do that for the

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first month super smart I love that what do you think some of the biggest like habitual

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challenges there are for a lot of people when they're having to you know it's not just about eating different food it's

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about like knowing learning about different foods and shopping in different areas of the supermarket you

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know like it's it's complex like trying to change somebody's uh diet is is getting into many different habits

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within within their lifestyle they have to start thinking differently right so yeah what are some of the the most

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um psychological challenges that come up in those like beginning stages uh the the conceptualization of what to

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put on the plate right what does it look like uh so we have them do some we

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download some meal plans get an idea of what breakfast lunch and dinner on a ketogenic diet might look like and I

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really like to transition people a little bit slower over four weeks to a

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ketogenic diet so the first week I have them track their carbs like normal like

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what what like don't cheat don't don't make it look good like really give me the real deal what what what carb level

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is your body used to and expecting from you and then what we do is we will have

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them reduce their carbohydrate intake a little bit each week until we get to a

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good 30 gram sometimes a 20 total gram carbohydrate so but during that time

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that they are slowly going down we're learning how to swap some foods out for

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others we're learning how to grab a few new recipes a week week we're starting to think about what are like the five

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go-to dinner recipes that I'm probably that I can make pretty easy even if I'm tired and be successful at how do I get

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in the habit of defrosting the meat the night before so I'm not in a pickle when I'm like oh my gosh I don't have

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anything for dinner so there's just you're right there's all these behavioral things but I think it's a little bit different for everybody and I

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don't think there's like this one particular hard part for everyone it's always different based on the people

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yeah there's always going to be that challenge just it's just not quite clear clear where it's going to be you were

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talking before about like the you know the educational piece like you know really helping people kind of understand like these Pathways what are neces what

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necessary ingredients necessary resources to be able to put these neurotransmitters hormones Etc

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together do you think there's been like a mass disservice in regards to like kids in

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school um Public Health teaching adults in regards to like what nutrition is

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what the truth about different diets you know like how and how it affects the body because I I mean I'm a holistic

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nutritionist and I practiced for many years before before I kind of um switched switch to Alternative work and

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the amount of people who are coming in who um the lack of understanding I mean

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not even I had it before I went to nutrition school and did a degree I learned so much and you know I didn't

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know about it before so it's like you know this isn't you know I did my original education in the UK and in

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Sweden and it blew my mind in regards to looking back now but the lack of actual

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information or fact that I got in like biology and and even like physical education and we did some food classes

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it was never really A nutrition class but it blew my mind in regards to not was I not was I I was not only just

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getting um a lack of information but I was actually getting bad information and wrong

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information and unscientific information have you do have you experienced that like have you been surprised by the

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amount of um uh the lack of knowledge a lot of people have on on some things and do you think

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we've had like this big quite big disservice in regards to teaching our kids about what our biology is and how

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it works and what we need to do to fuel it correctly to avoid chronic illness

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and disease yeah

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the nutrition information that is being shared that seems to just be completely

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funded by Big Industry and big Agriculture and not based on actual

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human nutritional biochemistry there is a body of literature that exists on that

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and it is not low protein when you're trying to grow it is not access it's not

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a focus on uh less bioavailable forms of protein it's not based on oh yeah you

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need to you know have all the Gatorade in the world if you want to perform like like it is not I don't know what this is

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based on but it is not based on nutritional biochemistry and I get really tired of seeing

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um curriculums that are based on that that that where they're being funded by Big

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Industry as opposed to actual science yeah that's a good answer yeah I mean all the food plates and all the pyramids

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you can actually look back through our history from probably the 40s and 50s and 60s and to see the key lobbyists in

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in Washington in the government or where I mean it's all around the world um who is really influencing how people

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are told on a mass scale I mean we all know that we're all very quite individual in regards to how our biochemistry works but

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um it's quite remarkably how kind of Insidious it is because it's

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like yeah it's it's not it's not based on it's not based on you know trying to

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take care and trying to get people healthy if it was you know they've been trying they've been doing this they've been doing this and recommending these

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things on a mass scale for like 70 80 years and you'd think we'd be getting healthier in our education around

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nutrition would be just getting stronger and stronger and stronger as the evidence comes out but that's just clearly not the case and we're still in

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we're in 2022 and it's not it's not getting any better so yeah I I share your um frustration and anger in regards

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to that because a lot of a lot most people are being brought up with wrong information or lack of

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information and it and it significantly affects you especially when you start getting into 1819 you might go to university and you

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you have more and more Independence in regards to like what's E and you know you would just like think of the horrific University student diet that

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would just be super super poor and that's you know that's not because they don't have the um like money to buy good food they

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don't have the education they don't have the people supporting them in regards to what they probably should be eating especially when they're going into four

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years of significant you know neurological function where they're like just like constantly trying to learn stuff not just like within their classes

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but within their social structures and cultures and all sorts of so much is going on so much development and they

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end up probably um the four-year period where they're taking in like the worst nutrition of

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their of their lives and it's setting that setting that standard for probably the rest of their lives that their mood

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disorder diets I call them mood disorder diets they have inadequate amounts of

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protein they have full of seed oils um there's a lot I mean there's a lot of

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anti anti uh you know anti-meat anti-protein anti-bioavailable protein

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options a lot of the stuff is inflammatory a lot of it is grain based

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um and it it is it is a mood disorder diet we send them off to college and if

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we buy the meal plan um you know for the kiddos there that is a mood disorder diet it depletes thiamin

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it depletes magnesium um you need magnesium to make some of your neurotransmitters I mean it's just

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an absolute it's a dumpster fire is what it is yeah and a lot of them have to turn to

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Pharmaceuticals because of the conditions that they are experiencing and then they end up you know a lot of them end up being you know long-term

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customers of of big Pharma and that's a different conversation and let's talk about that just a little bit because

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these are this is a time in their life from a psychology standpoint this is a

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time in the life where they are developing their sense of self and their identity of who they are yeah

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and we are giving them labels and saying you have this chronic mental illness

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you have depression well that's a lifelong disorder and we are and and we're not addressing the nutrition part

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that if we just gave their brain what they needed they wouldn't have that

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their resiliency would be higher they would be less likely to be having having those thoughts those negative thoughts I

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mean it's a it's it's a problem and then they come out of college saying yeah I

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can do this or I can do that but they have ideas about being broken or they have ideas about their limitations that

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are just not accurate and if we give their brain what those brains need in order to function whatever that is and

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that might be more individual but they may not have that and so I I have a

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problem with people taking on those limitations about themselves when we're just not even giving their brain the

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basic things that it needs to function yeah especially in that sensitive time when you're creating core beliefs about

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so many different things around you not just self but um yeah culturally politically you know

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all these different types of things and yeah we significantly limit ourselves when we get labeled a depressed person

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and you know that ends up becoming a big part of our personality and you know who are we if we don't have things like that

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right so yeah super powerful super um unfortunate and I don't know whether it's a you know a deliberate

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um play in this kind of like within those malevolent systems to be able to you know miseducate and educate those

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individuals and yeah keep them as you know pharmaceutical customers I'm not sure it's it's it's

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it's been going on for such a long time and the evidence is super clear and there's so many different people out there pushing really really good

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information unfortunately none of those people seem to work in um government so they wouldn't keep us

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they wouldn't care like us yeah they wouldn't like us but I want whoever is listening to this and

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itching this I want you to understand that if you feel like you've been kind of doing everything right and and you

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still you're having mood disorder disorder you're having neurological issues you're having untreated brain fog

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there's a lot of really powerful nutritional interventions that work very

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very well on a systemic level that if you have not tried them yet quite frankly you do not know what you are

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capable of you do not know how amazing you you can be how resilient you are you

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don't know how smart you are quite frankly because maybe you just haven't been giving your your brain what it

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needs to function and so please do not limit yourself with those beliefs and

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please keep trying to find a way to feel better well said um tell me about sea doors a bit more I

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mean I I'm aware of the very damaging factors and the fact that

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they're everywhere but you know for a lot of people when they just hit when they just hear seed oils they might not know much beyond that so can you give us

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some examples because you know they're in everything so surely they're okay yeah no well they are made by really

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kind of gross industrialized processes um and they create unstable oils and

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these unstable oils are fats and these fats are used in our body to make really important things like mitochondrial

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membranes and cell membranes and um you know your brain is made of fat

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and so all of these things and so it makes them unstable and my clients

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always ask me well what do you mean it makes them unstable what does that mean it means those cells break faster and if

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there's a lot of inflammation those cells don't die properly those cells

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kind of hang out in this zombie State exuding all of these nasty chemicals that cause

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more inflammation they don't even die right right and so so that they can be

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cleaned up and and fixed I mean that's another for that's another place of

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oxidative stress right these little macrophages trying to run around of eating up and gobbling up uh cells that

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are not healthy you know and deciding whether they need to die or not and when you know when those chemicals happen the

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cleanup doesn't happen and that causes a lot of reactive oxygen species and and problems but sorry I digress so they

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just make your cell parts less functioning and they're more likely to die and you're less resilient and you

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can't make energy as well I mean it's just like why would you make a house with unstable bricks or unstable wood

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that's what you do when you eat a lot of seed oils and you eat a lot of industrialized oils those are for profit

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those are for companies to be able to make money to sell you things and keep it stable on the Shelf so that they

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don't have to worry about it spoiling that is the only purpose of those oils those oils have nothing to do with your

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health and they are not made by people that care about your functioning or your brain

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and my understanding they're very cheap to make isn't all you know with the profit yeah with the um development in

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you know being able to actually take those take that plant take that seed and

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create that into an oil on a mass agricultural industrial stage yeah it

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just makes the whole process a lot cheaper and you can just see that when you just look at labels and you can just see that it's in

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literally everything and you know on the on the inside of the um Supermarket there yeah

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physical disorders you have to get to the place where you start allowing industry to tell you what to eat

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how do you start doing that you you know you use you start probably

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following people who care about your brain and who uh don't have any industry

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connections whatsoever and are smart and understand nutritional biochemistry

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um there's so many great resources out there a few YouTube Chris Palmer MD if

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YouTube Georgia Eid e-d-e she's a nutritional psychiatrist there's all

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kinds of great places to get accurate information about nutrition

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um I have a Blog mentalhealthketo.com that is very specific about ketogenic diets for

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mental illness and and neurological issues but there's all kinds of really great people out there who are trying to

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get this word out so that you can feel better beautiful have you got any podcasts out there that you recommend people check

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out listen to all kinds of podcasts um I always love well no not part well

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my gosh all the podcasts I've been on they're going to be like Nicole why didn't you say my podcast

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about specifically um like nutrition and brain health yeah well I know boundless

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body radio with Casey Ruff he has a lot of really good

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um really great uh guests that are fantastic so I would check out his he has Oodles of them I

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really like him um that would be the first one that kind of Pops Pops in my head but there's a

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lot of great ones out there beautiful um you mentioned at the beginning of the show you talked briefly about working

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with individuals who you know have brain inflammation they have disorders going on and if they were to continue then you

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know we're looking at we're looking at dementia we're looking at Alzheimer's we're looking at serious conditions can you tell us a little bit about the like

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the sugar link within that the the kind of type 3 diabetes that's been that's been discussed with its linked to

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alzheimer's yeah absolutely so yeah Alzheimer's is is called type 3

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diabetes in the scientific literature um and that is because there are parts

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of the brain that begin to not use glucose as fuel very well um and that is why ketogenic diets are

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so helpful for them because it's just immediate fuel source uh that they can use and then there's things that we can

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do to enhance Ketone production that help fuel the brain but when you have a brain that cannot use energy it's

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basically starving because you can take all the vitamins in the world and all the supplements in the world and if your

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brain doesn't have the energy to process them they're not going to do you any good and that's something that a lot of

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people don't understand um that that change in brain fuel is really really important when you have

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brain fog recurrent or chronic or you have that early MCI or even stage one stage two Alzheimer's can really really

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improve with a with a change in that brain fuel but the sugar piece

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um we think that a form of insulin resistance happens in the brain where

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the brain is unable to utilize glucose for fuel to to be able to get the get

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that in the brain cells for fuel because of broken Machinery which you know

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insulin you know can definitely contribute to so that's what that's about also immune function sugar a high

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blood sugar really impairs immune function your

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immune system is impaired a good two hours after a high carbohydrate meal if

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your body is not insulin sensitive or and you can't push that fuel into cells

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and utilize it right away and it's just hanging out there it impairs your immune system and that is something that people

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a lot of people don't understand and if your immune system is not functioning well that is going to cause

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dysfunctional responses in your immune system that affect cytokines in your

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brain and increases neural inflammation it's all connected yeah thank you that was

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that was perfect I really appreciate that yeah it just made me think it's such an interesting topic and whenever I I probably said once a week I probably

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tell somebody that Alzheimer's is known as type 3 diabetes and people have no idea and people are going to

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blown away with that fact because I think so many diseases that we have are diseases that we have within our culture

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so many pathologies people just put down to standard aging or just you know just

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standard parts of being 60 or being and being a woman or being a man or something you know like

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it's just I was just the way it's just the luck of the draw that's my dad isn't not normal brain aging you you can have

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a better brain at 60 than you did at 18. I agree you know yeah yeah absolutely

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how can people get hold of you Nicole uh the easiest way is to go to

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mentalhealthketo.com and there's a contact me form and you can just email me you can find me on I don't know all

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my handles but you can find me on uh Twitter I'm all over the place I'm trying to tell people about this so good

40:39

Lord I'm on Reddit I'm on Twitter I'm on Instagram I'm on LinkedIn

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and I'm on Facebook so surely you can find me somewhere you're around that's cool a lot I'll make sure that people

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can find your website and I'm sure all those particular places where people like to hang out will be connected in

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there right yeah yeah perfect well thanks thank you so much for coming on And discussing many

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different topics but very important that people recognize what a key to ketogenic diet is what it

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can do and how there are so many incredible people like yourself out there who will help facilitate that

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transformation and how you know having chronic migraines having chronic pain having chronic brain inflammation it's

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not normal it's not your destiny you don't have to live with it forever there are people out there there are things you can do to reverse it and as you said

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you can have a better brain and a better body at 50 than you did at 15.

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um so thank you so much for coming on and enlightening all of us yeah it's been pleasure thank you

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