Okay,

good morning,

Dr.

O.

Welcome to True Hope Cast.

How are you feeling today?

Not bad.

We don't have rain,

we don't have snow,

and weather is really nice.

I learned to be grateful after pandemic,

so it's a great day today.

Wonderful.

I'm very glad to hear that.

That's definitely a very positive reflection over

the last couple of years.

Just as an introduction,

would you mind giving us a little bit of

information about who you are,

what you do?

Well,

I'm the founder of Bioscan Wellness Center.

I've been practicing over 16 years.

And I'm a doctor of natural medicine,

board-certified biofeedback specialist.

We help children with learning difficulties like

ADD,

ADHD,

autism,

or post-concussive symptoms.

That's our expertise.

Amazing.

And why children?

Well,

I'm a doctor of natural medicine,

board-certified biofeedback specialist.

Well,

in our wellness center,

we help everybody.

We have seniors,

we have women,

we have hormone issues,

we have Hashimoto's,

autoimmunes.

But eventually,

as I'm practicing more,

it goes into who I want to help more or feel

more rewarded.

Children,

I had a problem.

With my son,

when he was young,

he still is.

He suffered from certain conditions,

which I can explain maybe later on.

So we had our family had a lot of brain issues.

My older brother,

two years older than me,

who is now 52 years old.

Now you know how old I am.

And he got brain damaged when he was eight months

old.

So by the time I was born,

I,

all I knew is there was something quite not right

with his head.

So he was different.

And even now,

at the age of 52,

his IQ level is somewhere around five and six

years old,

five and six.

And I never really had a good chance to develop

my normal childhood because I need to be with him.

So we had a caregiver.

My both parents were working outside,

but we did have a caregiver,

a good caregiver and all that.

But I still need to do a lot of things like a

little mommy kind of thing.

You know,

give him this,

feeding him this.

And then I was,

you know,

make sure that he's getting this.

And so they're hyper-vigilant,

hyper-attentive.

That was always something that I needed to monitor

where he was.

He didn't disappear.

And so I grew up with that situation.

And I've been interested in brain.

I've been interested in brain ever since,

since I was a little,

so many,

many,

many stories about my family,

my own son.

So eventually as I'm practicing more,

I felt naturally kind of goes into more and more

and more about the brain.

And I have more and more about the brain

methodology and eventually gets into our expertise.

So kind of natural progression.

Amazing.

So it sounds like you were born into a world

where brain injury,

brain trauma - you experienced it kind of from day

one and you grew up with it.

And it obviously,

I assume it fascinated you because now you've

worked professionally with it.

I guess,

you know,

your question does remind me of my meeting with

Stephen,

the inventor of True Hope EMP.

I met him one time.

I don't remember.

How I knew True Hope EMP,

but I guess I wasn't looking for researching the

supplement or method every year,

like always looking for looking out if there's any,

anything better than what I'm using now,

True Hope was one of those,

you know,

lucky,

you know,

encounter and before I was really using True Hope,

I met Stephen in one of his convention in church,

a little church in Vancouver.

I still remember.

Vividly.

I remember even where I was sitting with him side

by side,

right outside of the church service.

There is small,

not small,

like long,

like church with a bench,

right?

And we chatted,

I don't know how long,

chatted quite a time there.

And I heard his story about how he invented True

Hope EMP by pure accident,

but he called that a broken man's prayer.

And that,

that remained in my,

in my heart ever since,

a broken man's prayer,

because that's what I've been feeling about brain

conditions with my family the whole time.

So the eventually it goes,

comes down to the mission in a way that why I

am.

Doing what I'm doing.

It all started from also because of my brother,

older brother,

16 years ago,

he,

he survived miraculously,

but he almost died due to iatrogenic disease,

which is done by medical system.

So he,

one of his conditions is seizures.

So sometimes seizure can be triggered,

Triggered.

And then,

you know,

it becomes uncontrollable,

and then it's,

it gets into; it gets into really dangerous because

a brain can sustain that kind of seizure too many

times and too long,

right?

He was completely under control with a medicine

called the Dilantin,

relatively stable medication because it's been really

long.

It's been there for a long time.

And the,

he's a new neurologist.

I still remember his name.

I'm not in favor; you know,

unfavorable term.

And he was a researcher with something called the

Keppra.

That's a new medication back then.

So he was a paid researcher and he put my brother

on the Keppra medication.

Not only that,

not only him,

we have a circle,

like he has,

he's a,

he's a friend,

right?

Everybody was on Keppra and my brother on Keppra

the next day,

he started having seizures.

Violently and getting worse.

And every few hours,

like multiple times a day,

and it was getting worse and worse.

And we couldn't get hold of this neurologist

because he was on vacation for six weeks.

And he was,

my brother was losing it because the whole family,

there was nothing we could do because he's big.

And he couldn't because when,

when a person doing the seizure violently.

It weakens the entire muscle tone and it's making

them almost hallucinate the brain fog.

Like the cognition is gone.

Cognition is gone.

And he couldn't eat.

He couldn't drink well.

And he couldn't recognize who I was.

And it was continuing.

And then we called 911.

Okay.

Talk to your neurologist and call a GP.

Talk to your neurologist.

Neurologists need to be consulted,

nobody was going to touch the neurologist's

medication.

So that was it.

So that was our experience,

we,

it,

the condition continued for six weeks until the

doctor,

this neurologist came back from his six-week

vacation.

By the time my brother,

he wasn't able to make it to the bathroom,

but it was really heartbreaking because it was

perfectly functional to the point that he,

we,

we were not sure you,

if he was going to survive,

but the whole six weeks were so traumatic for our

family.

So that.

The next year,

my old,

my younger brother,

seven,

we are three,

two brothers and one sister,

seven years younger.

You know,

he went to acupuncture school and I went to,

I studied,

I studied,

I studied by a feedback because not because I

wanted to get a career,

but because we were searching for something to help

my brother.

So what does it work for the brain?

Because the brain,

right.

Someone asked,

you've got to do the by feedback.

Okay.

So we'll do the by feedback.

And we were spending the $5,000 per month.

And then eventually,

can I learn,

maybe we can just buy the machine,

I become practitioner,

I can help him,

right.

And so that's how it all started,

that's how my career started.

And then as I was going,

okay,

I need to get more education.

And then,

okay,

I went to the school,

and I need to take this course.

And that's how I became doing what I am doing.

But it all started from my brother's situation.

My younger brother is still a brain-focused

acupuncturist.

And we are whole family is helping my older

brother; he's healthier,

better than ever.

He now even reads - it's miraculous - he was

never be able to read.

But now he can read letters,

that his brain is obviously getting better and

better and better.

And he's amazing.

Wonderful.

Well,

congratulations to that.

That's,

that's quite miraculous.

And how was you?

How did the biofeedback that you studied?

And how did the acupuncture that your younger

brother studied?

How did that help your elder brother?

You know,

really going back to Stephen.

It's really a broken,

broken man's prayer,

because we did try many professionals,

medical and alternatives,

and nobody really was able to help my brother.

So really,

my younger brother and I,

we were trying,

whatever seems to be working,

and whoever was doing whatever related to the

brain.

So it's pure,

it's purely just exit,

it's purely just experimental and accidental.

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my previous education.

So I was always wondering.

This is inefficient,

because we never know exactly.

Where.

What's baseline,

what's going on right now,

and what we are working on?

How does it work?

Does it work?

Or maybe?

Is he feeling better?

Because the weather is nice?

Or is he feeling better because he's having a

birthday party?

So how do you determine feeling good and happy?

Kind of improvement,

of course,

there are some signs that we can measure like

seizures you know,

how often does it do eventually to completely under

control in a touchwood or in a full-time lost so

many years.

But it was really based on like so many

experiments,

but I was able to get some patterns after I got

this bio scans from one of the most advanced

clinics worldwide in terms of technology it's called

Health Optimizing from Bergen,

Norway,

which they got the technology mostly from Russia,

so that's where I got most of my practicum.

And then I learned how to snapshot of the

biochemistry and also body electric at the same

time because I got about two thousand per minute

after the scanning on an individual.

So how I was able to help eventually when we

tried about hundred different things we were able

to get about seven to eight works really well.

So we have a testing method,

and we tried a lot of things,

and then we checked before and after that's how I

can determine what works and what doesn't.

One of them is,

of course,

True Hope Emp - that's my step one.

And then I was able to get a lot of information

after the scanning so I was able to get a lot of

information and

Then,

I was able to get a lot of information and then

I was able to staple and I'm going to keep it

forever in my dispenser because I tried many,

many supplements almost like I'll say I'll say the

90% I don't keep it just now after 16 years,

16 years my practice it has to.

I can measure quicker before I need to watch

observe longer,

and in many cases but now I refined my method so

within about two weeks I was able to get a lot

of information about three different cases uh the

uh client then I can find out if it works or not

so this is sorry just take just to just to jump

back a second so when you're using when you're

doing this is this is the neurofeedback.

We're talking about here right uh,

right now.

Your feedback by feedback true hope emp other brain

chemistry,

you asked me I remembered our conversation in the

before that you asked me how does a bio biology

and biochemistry works with this kind of method

it's not easy to measure it's not easy to know

but this is my belief the quality of treatment

depends on the quality of assessment because I

believe in the baseline um everybody comes let's

say there are 10 people coming for oh I'm

depressed and then they are sad and you know they

are tired they may show all the signs of

depression and all that sometimes they are just

exhausted.

Like adrenaline exhaustion,

the brain chemistry is okay,

and then I just work on more exhaustion,

the adrenaline,

and their mood gets better because they're just

exhausted,

so symptoms are there; inattention,

distractibility,

brain fog,

or cannot focus,

concentrate,

a mood dysregulation.

These are designed for the symptoms,

but labeling them based on the symptoms,

I don't believe in that kind of method which is

conventional method which is a questionnaire and

observation; I think there's a limit so I do

assessment after assessment,

I can find out brain wave imbalances with the

neurofeedback if people have a real problem.

Then I recommend doing some 'Body Electric'

- it's interstitial fluid scan.

I don't want to go into too much detail,

but it can check the body electric chemistry at a

chemical level.

So,

um,

none of these are diagnosing so you know,

diagnosing still needs to depend on the psychiatrist

and psychologist.

But what we're measuring is bodies'

natural bodies responses to the scan assessment.

We can find out,

we can map out serotonin responses,

dopamine,

acetylcholine,

and adrenaline,

these key responses including the gut lining the

gut to the brain,

the connection,

and the enteric nerve system it's becoming really

big like ENT,

enteric.

Nerve system or autonomic nerve system,

we get those kinds of information from simple

bioimpedance scan.

And then I'll do the supplement or neurofeedback

brain wave assessment treatment,

the training,

and then I measure afterwards,

that's how I determine what works or what doesn't.

And would you say,

how frequently to,

to your clients after you do this assessment and

you do the biofeedback work?

And then obviously you're looking to see what works

and what doesn't and you say,

you know,

you have this protocol where you would maybe

introduce a treatment and then reassess it in a

few sessions time.

Yes,

if I want to say that the Most successful protocol

that I have is a combination with,

combination with,

really lifestyle changes first because no matter how

amazing this supplement is or this treatment is,

none of them can really,

none of them can replace a good lifestyle.

Like drinking water,

it's good for you; there you know,

we have to,

because brain is 70% hydration,

so water is important.

Breathing is important,

good sleep is important,

nutrition is important.

So in the beginning,

we do really heavy-duty some checkpoints.

Are you eating good food?

So there are some foods that we absolutely know

which I figured out after 16 years of practice

again,

I've done.

Like 250,000 scans by now,

and during that time I found out this food,

this food,

this food always triggers some problems.

So,

I have my list,

so I do that,

and then what's on that list?

It's a long list,

by the way,

if you like,

I can give you a it's my gift,

it's my uh,

I did my discovery or it took 16 years to find

it,

and then I even have a meal plan if your audience

likes it,

I can even provide my proprietary meals and the

list.

And then kitchen toxins which we I refined it

about five years ago,

I can give you that's very very kind.

So these are things that you've seen first,

that's the number one step okay great,

so the and those things that you see that you've

seen over the last 16 years yeah they they're not

helping anybody in a way almost like no matter who

is coming to our clinic um it was also accidental

Discovery because uh you know it can some are

glutinous some electing whatever but there are

certain list of foods I found always almost always

triggering inflammation no matter what condition

people rip people are presenting So what I did is

that okay maybe I can just I can just um said no

to this list in the first six weeks and then see

how people are improving fast just removing those

lists our improvement I was able to speed speeding

up the recovery about three times faster

And also,

generally,

no matter what people's conditions are,

generally,

because some are really severe,

generally,

within six weeks when people avoid this food and

eat our meals,

we see at least 20 to 60 percent improvement for

six weeks that includes symptom-wise,

not necessarily I'm sure it doesn't be but

symptom-wise,

like pain is better,

headaches are better,

swelling is down,

mucus is down,

concentration is better,

and they can walk better,

joint pain is better,

so I just consider this okay.

Inflammation is really the enemy of all conditions,

including brain.

I had a ADHD autism depression patient and I put

Them on this diet,

some of them,

not everybody can afford a lot of supplemental

treatment,

so some of them.

I just go by that it could change the lifestyle

which doesn't cost much because they can learn and

they can continue right.

Some of them were not able to um take much,

you know,

you know amazing supplements because they could only

afford my service.

So I gave them this,

gave them this information,

and they came back still 40 percent improvement

without anything all that.

So that's number one,

and then um which if I will just ask me because

I'm forgetful and yeah,

so I will send it to you by for free now.

Um the second one is um supplement.

And neurofeedback is uh important,

but supplements can be a little bit...it's two

different things.

You cannot compare like supplement to supplement.

Is changing biochemistry,

neurofeedback is changing the brain waves.

When you have a broken PC computer,

what would you do?

You gotta take a look at some software,

you know.

It may be something that you download,

or downloaded new software that's causing glitchy

with the other,

like Microsoft.

Then you've got to remove the software.

Right,

that's like biochemistry...software is a biochemistry

electrical is by hardware,

so one if it's a minor problem,

one can fix the whole problem,

or this.

can fix whole problems but if we do something like

severe learning challenges or mood dysregulation like

uh you know add adhd or autism one like one fit

all method doesn't work it has to be all combining

so I usually recommend some supplements and the

neurofeedback when it comes to brain conditions

supplements it depends on uh what's their budget

because not everybody speaks uh but first one I

recommend is um I have a few of my key

supplements but empower trope empower emp is one of

the one of the mainorc ? ???all they all wrong

for me just to give you some examples you know

working with changes because when I give the

empower

In the beginning,

there are some expectations I wanna see from the

client within two to to seven days.

So almost like a one out of three cases respond

positively.

What conditions I see improvement with Empower is

anyone who complains about,

oh,

brain fog and brain is tired,

and I've been studying and more than two hours

brain stops working.

Like,

like brain battery is low,

and power works really well.

It took some time.

But Stephen helped me with the protocols that

anyone who is listening to this,

of course,

you got to talk to your pharmacist,

or,

you know,

GP.

But if you're trying EMP,

and it doesn't seem to work,

you may consider increasing the dose,

like 12 a day,

one or two doesn't work,

it depends on how depleted how it's almost like,

when there's a dry season,

right?

Like,

which dry and then,

you know,

garden in my yard becomes like a brown,

a few drops of water is not going to do much,

you need a heavy rate,

or heavy,

whatever,

water,

wherever you can get something we get regulation

that we're not supposed to,

you know,

water the yacht,

but grade is like that.

The more depleted it is,

there are the some absolute time,

the brain needs to be saturated with the nutrition.

So often,

I found it a dose dosing matter.

But I usually recommend EMP and some other

supplements like omega three,

of course,

it's important,

and some other supplements.

And then I,

and I measure some progress with how the brain is

working.

And then I recommend in your feedback.

So that's basically the,

you know,

blueprint,

my blueprint of the how I help most brain

conditions.

Amazing.

So you see EMP works quite quickly for a lot of

people.

And I wonder how you how do you support your

clients to stay accountable?

Because first of all,

you're introducing lifestyle changes,

which can be very difficult for a lot of people,

you know,

drinking more water,

moving their body more,

eating different foods,

shopping in different parts of the supermarket.

These are brand new habitual things that people,

excuse me,

aren't used to doing.

So how do you go about as a as a practitioner in

helping people kind of stay on top of these

changes?

That's a really good question.

Because that is,

I remember Dr.

Gary Ryder,

Dr.

Gary Ryder,

he is a the integrated medicine doctor in Canada,

practicing 40 years medical doctor and integrated

medicine.

And when I had a conversation with him one day,

he said this,

Sammy,

I've been practicing and by the time he was 45

years,

I've been practicing 35 years.

And I found one disease is the most difficult,

that is non-compliance.

If if they were compliant,

I would be able to help so many people.

That stuck in my mind.

And that is a truth because compliance is changing

lifestyle,

it's very difficult.

But surprisingly,

taking pills - I don't get a lot of 99% people

can take pills,

but food,

sleep,

changing the light and evening habits.

It's very,

very difficult.

But I think we kind of filter patients in the

beginning during the interview; we don't want to

work with everybody.

I have to say that we don't work with everybody

because it's really intense program that we are

running.

So in the very beginning,

we need to see you to see how committed people

are,

of course,

to their own health,

right?

Like a break,

broken man's prayer.

That's like,

we need to see the kind of attitude,

no matter what it takes,

I will do that for my children.

And then I make it happen.

And very soon,

first week or second week,

we know,

then we sometimes we we have to sometimes we need

to draw the line that we are not going anywhere,

I make it like a coaching.

So what we are doing is not really doctor-patient

relationship,

we are doing almost athletes.

I'm a coach.

We are,

we are coaches and you are athletes.

We want to make you to get the gold gold medal

medal,

but you got to do the work.

We make it very,

very,

very clear.

So in a way that we did two,

three weeks,

if people are,

you know,

any client not committed,

generally,

they don't stay,

you know,

so they stopped coming.

You know,

sometimes they keep coming,

but our conversation stick the same ground because

we need to go back to the basic,

you've got to do this.

We cannot jump to the,

you know,

sometimes they want to try something else.

And yeah,

try different ideas.

It doesn't work because I don't want to I don't

want to experiment.

I've done already all the experiment for them.

By now,

they get the best service for me to perform what

I what I believe it's working.

It doesn't mean that it's going to work for every

single person.

But this is my best foot forward,

right?

And if they make me to experiment,

there will be experiment,

it would take me a long time for me to find out

if it's working or not.

Do you think people think that or find that it

takes too long?

Like,

I mean,

let's say a two- or three-week protocol of going

to bed earlier,

drinking twice as much water,

moving your body just 30 minutes a day - like

that is impossible for some people in their own

minds,

right?

And,

and not committing to for just even a couple of

weeks,

or even three weeks to see what the results are.

Maybe it's just not going to happen for some

people because we do have this culture of,

you know,

as you say,

people take the supplements,

no problem,

because we have this pill culture,

right?

We take this pill,

and it's gonna like fix us or make us feel better

or do its thing.

And it's gonna be pretty quick,

right?

Because it's,

you know,

biochemically doing something within us.

You're right.

You're right.

Yeah.

So it's,

it's,

it's very much cultural in regards to how we want

to if we do want to get results.

Because I feel a lot of people get into the

position of,

let's say,

having a disease,

it can take years and decades of like very

subconscious things happening,

like not drinking enough water,

not going to bed early enough,

not moving their body.

And it takes years and years and decades.

And we're not really programmed to recognize that

we've got into a position because of these years

of,

let's just say,

poor lifestyle choices.

And it goes against our complete nature to try and

work hard to change that because we've learned

these subconscious patterns so deeply ingrained,

right?

Yeah,

really deeply ingrained and very,

very difficult to kind of break through that.

And I think yeah,

that's when you it's wonderful when you do get

those those clients who really are committed,

it's usually because they're in a place of

significant discomfort,

you know,

like they're coming to see you and they're really

wanting to make these changes because they are

like,

it's like last resort.

They've been through the conventional model for for

10 years,

they had no results,

they don't want to take drugs for the rest of

their lives.

They're having side effects from these things.

And they're like,

this is their like last go with something that's

complimentary alternative,

and they're really in it,

in it to win it.

But then there's also like a lot of other people

who are just not quite there yet.

They're interested in alternative,

complementary medicine,

but they're not quite there yet.

You know,

you got it right.

Working with clients,

what I found the most important is commitment needs

to be earned.

So no one can be committed to anything if they

don't see the results,

like six months or one year,

unless they have like cancer patient,

which they already know that,

you know,

they're happy as long as you know the pain is not

getting worse,

right?

The expectation is different.

But most cases in in this special brain cases,

we want to see the improvement within one week,

if like one week,

gives another three week commitment,

when they're getting better within three weeks,

then I have about three months commitment.

Usually,

that's a good enough time to see what kind of

life how life can be different.

Once brain can perceive that,

that a lot of things can change a lot of things.

So one week,

we usually we see some improvement.

That is a reason why I use biochemical and body

electric at the same time,

because lifestyle that I recommend everything,

but I have a different timeframe for the commit

commitment in terms of the my recommendation,

lifestyle is a little bit relaxed.

Because when especially anyone has a brain

condition,

they cannot remove everything they like to eat.

And the stress is killing them,

especially children,

and they are going to do,

let's say,

go to bed and here and drink water.

And then you cannot eat,

you cannot eat sweets.

And then now you do the training,

it is not going to work,

it's too much stress.

Even the adults,

you know,

smoking or drinking,

okay,

you stopped smoking from today,

and then stop drinking from today,

and you eat this,

but it's not going to work.

We got to have some crutch,

because while your brain is somewhat reduced,

you're not resilient to be able to make that

happen.

So the first commitment is taking supplements,

which is a pill,

pill taking is somewhat easier,

most people can do that,

doing the brainwave treatment,

brainwave training,

and some key ingredients need to be still off from

the from the food is the highest inflammation

inflammation.

I tried so many different combination,

this one always,

always make it impossible for me to see improvement

within one week,

no matter what I do.

So I have a small list.

This is a must.

And there is a bigger one that is smaller one.

So this is has to be go.

But you know,

they can eat some sweets,

you know,

they can drink if they you have to smoke,

okay.

It's okay for about for three months,

because after three months later,

probably we can renegotiate it.

I actually,

I actually use the term negotiation.

Let's negotiate this.

That's good.

So what,

what do you need to have?

We have this choice to Okay,

and then Oh,

alcohol.

I have to buy chocolate.

Okay,

then this needs to go.

So there are a lot of communications,

but one week,

people need to see some improvement.

Yeah,

I think one week is very reasonable,

I think.

And I think it's got a lot to do with what

people take out rather than what they put in.

Like if you were to,

you know,

stop eating certain foods that we know are highly

inflammatory,

and we know are highly processed and contain just

complete foreign chemicals or in biology,

just taking those out for a week.

And giving your liver and your body a break to

actually not have to continuously detoxify from

these things and store them in your body.

And you know,

it's giving your body a week to really heal.

And to really do what it does best and to make

you feel great.

I can absolutely attest to the fact that yeah,

if you if you if you do good things for a week,

you will certainly feel better,

that's for sure.

But it's then revisiting that great week.

And working on top of that.

And again,

like renegotiating and bringing your body back to

normal.

So that's bringing bringing what you've learned back

to the table,

what can go what can stay and the I think that's

I think negotiation is a really,

really key way that you would discuss that with a

best,

let's call them like,

you know,

you're coaching a you're coaching an athlete rather

than it being a patient client situation.

I think that's a really,

really good way to look at it.

You just summarized my program.

Thank you,

Simon.

You're welcome.

You're right.

We don't.

What I was the most frustrating,

frustrating,

the biggest frustration that I felt when I was

working on my own health,

my son's and my brother is that dependency that I

never knew exactly what was wrong and I didn't

know how to improve,

and then I didn't know how to maintain.

So that is one of the core principle in our

practice is that telling people letting people know

that what's wrong with you as much as I can find

out and then this is a way to the bridge I'm

providing the bridge from you from here and you're

going here but during this time most clients learn

what was a problem what worked and then so they

are trained and then continue doing what you

learned because even if they sleep you know even

if they slack up even if they kind of slipped and

then went back to their previous life because they

had a memory of what how they were achieved this

they had the confidence that I can get it back

absolutely there's no like steady incline of success

you know there's always going to be blips but it's

certainly how do you respond to that blip you know

like if it's a day or a couple of days you know

I I am I have friends and clients of mine who

who do incredible things for let's say like they

want they want to stop drinking alcohol for like

four months and then they they fail after two

months and three days and they think they consider

that whole period of time of failure i'm like

you're kidding me like that's that's amazing that's

incredible why don't you just you know like just

just finish the four months and those two days who

cares about it you know like you're doing your

body such a great service but we have this goal

orientation putting a time on it you know like new

year's resolutions dry january all these all these

things which are positive that's for sure and i

think that they work for a lot of people because

it's actually quite communal to make those changes

together and and it to be a part of a group

rather than just being like me on my own trying

To do all these impossible things,

I think there's a big conversation for community um

with any of these kind of lifestyle changes whether

that's a Facebook group or your own family,

I think that can definitely um work wonders when

you're wanting to make big changes in your life

because you know we our our kids and our and our

parents,

we were without question,

we inherit genes but we also inherit behaviors much

more significantly so we can certainly um pass on

those positive things to together and you know try

and make changes together and negotiate within the

family,

I think that's a that's a really great way to

look at it yeah yeah eventually it's empowerment

right um because you know you're you're you're

you're you're you're you're you're you're you're

you're you're you're you're you're you're you're

you're you're you're you're you're you're you're

you're Clearly and then obviously about my health

health and Wellness is not one-time achievement

like not like purchasing a house or you know it

is something you need to keep earning and

maintaining if you want to reach the peak

performance negotiations,

So we do negotiation and training,

so we're not necessarily treating or I call it 'I

like the word like training' because they become so

empowered,

they know exactly what to do and what to eat,

what's their condition,

and who to see.

I can only do so much.

I feel I have to make a change,

like I've done things for somebody all my life in

my family.

do within my within my method so if there is

something else that they need to see at least they

know they have a team this person this this

professional professional this is a problem that now

he he's a he's his own designer of the wellness

and he can go as far as he wants to wants to go

it's it's up to him absolutely yeah i mean they're

only going to be seeing you for let's say an hour

every couple of weeks or something like that right

there's a lot of other hours where that individual

is kind of like on their own working on the

program yes when you introduce empower plus to

clients um i'm sure there are questions but how do

you go explaining about why why this why this

product for this person you know why do you know

how do you go about explaining because i'm sure

many clients will just take the bottle and be like

okay great how much do i need to take but i'm

sure you've got other other other clients and

they're going to be able to take that and they're

going to be able to take that clients that come

in who who ask questions like okay why this

product you

know why this brand what's different about this

product so how do you go about explaining how

empower plus um works for people well um really

two things first research we have to let data

guide us research is important and i've never seen

any other product i've never seen any other product

have such amazing research outcome um then empower

that's number one i was i was like i was immersed

researching and studying uh true hope emp and power

for years especially about 10 years ago that's i

believe that's when i was introduced to emp and

power um that's before it was changing to the you

know new bottle which is a glass bottle

Back then,

it was like just plastic and so um,

how I'm introducing Empower to my clients is one

of the research I you know I've been using it the

whole time,

I forgot the name of the institute,

it's in Toronto,

Canada,

I believe.

Neuroscience,

uh,

you probably you know that there is a research

done on mice,

group which is the visual pictures,

so I show that picture to my client.

The visual picture is showing that there's some

suction suction technique and with use,

apply to the the group of group of mouse,

mice,

and it cut about one quarter of the brain which

is a prefrontal cortex,

which is a thinking brain,

but left enough brain to survive,

so Eat and all that,

but just compromise cognition: two groups.

One is uh,

you know both,

both groups um,

uh had removed uh,

a partial uh,

the uh thinking brain which is a prefrontal cortex.

And one group was were given with normal common

multivitamin,

the other group was given Empower True Hope (one

year later).

Um,

and all the scanning imaging scan shows that

neurons redeveloped with Empower.

The other mice were given uh multivitamin uh had a

pretty good health like energy wise,

but brain remained the same.

So it was beneficial for wellness,

so it's better than nothing,

right?

You know,

multivitamin,

right,

but has nothing to do with The brain can actually

regrow into neurons,

you could see that actually,

brain mass increased it was grown back,

so that was a shocking,

uh,

shocking,

uh,

the research,

so I,

that's a visual,

so I show it to you,

I,

it's always in my desk and I show it to the

patient,

that make the introduction,

look at the different,

this is science,

and then I go over my own story,

that how my brother is taking this,

how I'm,

I myself is taking it,

and that usually because I'm,

I'm recommending,

uh,

empower to everybody,

I have some cases right,

and I can pick similar story to the patient who

is sitting,

uh,

right in front of me,

so I have a similar case.

And,

whatever the time,

this is what's happening.

We can give it a try right?

So if it doesn't work,

then we can change it to something else,

so that's how I usually recommend this - empower

wonderful!

Yeah,

I remember when I first when I when I finished my

nutrition degree,

I think 2017,

I think it was...

But um,

then I you know I was this nutritionist and I was

out there,

I was on Instagram and I was trying all these

different products.

People sending me stuff.

And I'm so blessed that for a whole year of that

training,

I was studying research and not just research but

researching how to research research because you

know you can't just look at you can't just look

at the front page you can't just look at the the

objective or just the conclusion or the abstract

you know you really need to be digging deep into

what these people are doing because it's not always

what it says on the tin yeah it's a very common

phrase in the uk um so i was getting all these

companies trying to send me supplements and send me

green powders and all this and i'm like yeah

that's cool i'm gonna go straight into your website

and i'm gonna look for your science page and your

research page and 99.99 percent of these companies

have got nothing they've made a product for many

of them they've

Just like bunching everything they could find that's

healthy into,

like,

one product and adding some things to make it

taste sweet,

yeah,

yeah,

and they call this a health product,

right?

And obviously the industry is very poorly regulated,

so yeah.

When I started working with True Hope and I was

like,

'I'm gonna get i want to get involved with this

company because they've got like 36 peer-reviewed

papers' and that is you know having just one for

a supplement company is incredibly rare,

so I'm like,

'What's happening with this company?

And this,

you know how are they doing this and the product

works so well as you say.

That it's been picked up by multiple universities

around the world and being studied because,

just like you said about this,

my study which I will link in the in the show

notes,

the product works it's brain food; it's incredibly

curable and it can,

you know,

it can work really,

really quickly for a lot of people.

And when we hear about brain trauma,

brain disease,

ADHD,

depression all these things and a lot of people

say that they're incurable,

and you're going to be on medications for the rest

of your life; it's just...

it's just not true,

yeah.

No,

it's just so sad.

As Dr.

Daniel Amen,

and I'm probably heard his name a renowned

psychiatrist said.

That psychiatry,

you know,

a psychiatrist is the person doesn't look at what

it's treating so there's no test,

there's no test for the brain,

it's just observation and the symptoms and the

questionnaire,

right?

It's all decisions are mostly based on that.

I'm not saying that they're not working,

it's working,

but it's just not enough,

it's not enough.

There has to be more than that,

yeah,

that's a really important point,

so yeah,

just to make sure that I'm clear in what you're

saying,

for a lot of psychological disorders the diagnosis

process is literally ticking boxes and if you tick

the right boxes in the right diagnosis.

That's that,

that's what you've got,

yeah,

and that is you know,

that's kind of all they've got,

you know,

which they kind of have to work with,

but it's not super specific and it doesn't work

for a lot of people.

I know more than a handful of people who had

significant brain trauma from a car accident and

they were wrongly diagnosed with with a

psychological disorder when they'd just had brain

inflammation for 10 years,

it's never been inflammation,

yes,

exactly,

yeah,

and that's been fed by diet and lifestyle and

stress and the symptoms that came with that injury,

and then you go to a doctor and you've got all

these problems you can't.

Sleep and you've got all this going on,

and your doctors are saying,

'Oh,

it's all in your head.

You're just anxious or you're just depressed.'

Here's a pill.

And how much more anxiety and more depression that

that puts on you because you're not really being

listened to because people really aren't believing

what you're experiencing internally.

Um,

yeah,

it's uh,

it's wild that um that that's kind of how far we

are in 2022 when it comes to diagnosing psychiatric

disorders.

It's a changing according to some of my clinical

advisors.

We also work with a clinical advisor,

renowned psychologist,

and also a peer in our clinic,

um,

according to the according to the industry news the

leaders many things are going to change especially

with the big data and then the advancement of the

technology especially neurofeedback used to be really

difficult to get because it was expensive and also

it has to be repeating and it's just difficult but

it's becoming a little bit easier and cheaper and

the big data also is changing the brain science is

changing with as a computer changes computer changes

so um psychiatry and psychology i just had this

conversation with um you know renowned also he's

also quite renowned in this i'm so lucky to have

uh amazing doctors around

I'm Dr.

Nathan Brown,

he's a doctor of psychology and the neurofeedback

he's like the neurofeedback um specialized uh

psychologist for four years and he's a doctor of

psychology and he's a doctor of 40 years and he's

now seeing because of the computer science and then

because the electrodes are becoming sensitive it's

also computer right just look at how much computer

has improved and the brain is most electrical so

electrodes are becoming super sensitive and it's so

much easier and cheaper to measure that kind of

data now big data is presenting some um ideas why

these people may have this condition why this so

big data.

Is changing actually everything,

including neutral radiation and all of those,

so um,

we may be able to see some changes with even

spect uh you know spectroscopy and there are a lot

of other possible uh examinations,

even like neurotransmitter urine tests,

right?

Some tests rather than just doing the psychiatry is

a very conservative which I appreciate because we

don't want to play with the brain,

right?

We don't want to play with the brain especially

with the medication.

They have to be conservative,

but still I think they still need to open their

mind into a little bit including alternative

medicine,

which a lot of professionals Are opening their

minds and using EMP how many doctors are promoting

EMP and empower psychiatrists,

and it should go hand in hand.

Plus,

there has to be more method of assessment whatever

available out there rather than just using the

questionnaire and giving the people medication,

which may cause a lot of side effects.

Absolutely,

I think.

Um,

I think I'd love to get you back on the show to

talk more about um brainwave patterns and how

they're affecting biology,

and also the current like technology that we do

have available because it would be incredible if if

this technology was able to be cheaper and more

accessible for A lot of people who,

you know,

a lot of people who do come towards like an

alternative practice are um,

you know,

they're paying for two forms of healthcare really.

So,

yeah,

making that more affordable would be wonderful.

But um,

we're just coming up to the end of this show for,

for the hour.

Really appreciate your time today.

Where um,

where can people connect with you?

Um,

people can um go to my website,

it is um,

I'm sorry.

No,

my website is a health optimizing if they can just

go to bioscancenter.com,

it's a center,

is a C E N T R,

bioscancenter.com.

And they can find me.

As I said,

if they contact me there's a contact form or you

know Facebook.

messenger if they um give us uh their email

address we'll send out our um the list of the

kitchen toxins for the neuron and the meal plan

meal recipes and the list of the food that i

found absolutely no for the brain condition we can

give it up for free i'm sorry that we we don't

have the uh fancy downloading feature yet but uh

they can contact us directly beautiful that's

wonderful well thank you very much again dr i

really appreciate your time today that was

fascinating thank you for having me simon of course

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