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Here at True Hope, we we engage with people on a daily basis who have been,

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you know, locked into a medical diagnosis and a series of drugs for, you

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know, sometimes 10, 20, 30 years. And they're looking for an alternative answer, looking for something different

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to to relieve their symptoms, to make them feel better rather than just like just

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existing. And um I totally I know somebody like so I'll give you an example. Uh, I know somebody that's been

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in a schizophrenia hospital for 30 years and they're on like six to eight

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different medications and I guess it just basically these medications make them docile. It just it's just a Yeah.

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You know, almost like um become sheeple like just just the

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sedatives constant sedatives, right? Yeah. Have you had success of weaning somebody

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off these eight six eight medications and like how does that how does that work? It's an amazing question.

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[Music] Welcome to the True Hope Cast podcast,

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the official podcast of True Hope Canada. I'm your host, Simon Brazier, and in today's episode, we're diving

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deep into a topic that bridges nutrition, spinal health, and the holistic approach towards healing. Our

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guest is Dr. Edward Espacito, a dedicated chiropractor based in Miami, Florida, with nearly three decades of

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experience helping patients from college athletes to professional baseball players, helping them find lasting

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relief and elevating their performance. Dr. Espacito has made a name for himself by integrating advanced techniques like

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the trigenics myion neural method and dry needling into chiropractic care

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while also weaving in the vital role of nutrition in muscular sceal health. In this conversation, we are going to

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explore how chiropractic care optimizes athletic performance and recovery, innovative ways to manage chronic pain

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without surgery, and the powerful intersection of nutrition and spinal health, and also real life stories of

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patient transformation. True Hope Canada is committed to promoting brain and body health through nutritional natural

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means. We have a massive value that aligns perfectly with today's conversation. For more information about

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us, please visit trueuh hopeanada.com. Get ready to be inspired by a unique perspective on holistic wellness. Let's

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get into it. Enjoy the show. All right. Okay. Hi, Dr. Edward. Welcome to True Hope Car. Thank you so much for being

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with us today. How are you and what is going well? Very good. Um,

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what's going well? Yeah, always learning, always helping people. It's

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amazing how confused people are when it comes to health sometimes. So, it's always good to be uh point them in the

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right direction. Yeah, it's quite remarkable that we need all of these

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amazing practitioners and from different areas and walks of life to kind of remain healthy and remember to stay

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healthy and to do all of these things that we need to do to contribute towards our health. And I just imagine, you

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know, we didn't have all of this a thousand years ago and people seem to be relatively healthy. So, it's like we're trying to trying to re-educate ourselves

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to get back on track. Yeah. Less toxins, less pollution, less

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preservatives, less mortgages. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. I guess we're just trying to like deal with the man-made issues of the world, I guess, in a new way. In a new

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world, new wild world. Um, well, we're going to be discussing integrating nutrition and chiropractic for holistic

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wellness today. But before we jump into that topic, would you mind maybe just giving us a little bit of a background

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about who you are and what it is that you do? Okay. Well, I'm a chiropractor

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for 29 years. Uh became a chiropractor just by chance. Uh

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10 years old when my mother had her first bout with almost going into a diabetic coma. Uh she had undiagnosed

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diabetes. She was about to pass out and she's like, "Go get me orange juice." We were in the Staten Island Mall and

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really watched her uh really decline pretty quickly. About eight to nine eye surgeries, was on dialysis for seven

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years. And so from the time I was 10 till 27 when she passed, uh which is a

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very quick time. Unfortunately, medicine is better now. Uh it had a profound

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effect on me. And uh when I was about 18, I was constantly having headaches.

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And somebody said, "Go to a chiropractor." And I said, "They're a bunch of quacks." And uh but I was

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taking Advil twice a day for four years. And I always had this just this this dull sensation here and went to the

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chiropractor and within like a week they were gone. Never really came back. So I

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was like, I want to be a chiropractor. I want to help people. And uh through my journey, I had cancer 15 years ago,

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non-hodkins lymphoma. uh help treat it naturally through different uh different

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types of vitamins, through infrared saunas, through hot yoga, through colonics, through uh protein uh enzymes

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on empty stomach. And uh I've also been a chiropractor for a professional team.

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One of my sons is a professional baseball player. The other two played college baseball.

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So I kind of go all over the place. Amazing. I'd love I'd love it if you

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could if you could just take me back in your journey a little bit. I wonder if you could maybe think back to the time

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cuz I think what you said about um you got recommended to go to chiropra go to see a chiropractor and you just

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associated that with quacks but at the time you're actually taking you know

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Advil twice a day to deal with with the pain. Yeah. Where do you think that perception came from that the

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chiropractic was was was nonsense and and and a little bit hoohoo but taking

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you know pharmaceutical drugs every single day was fine. I mean we know

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exactly who that came from now. So in the 80s there was a class action lawsuit. Three chiropractors got

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together and they proved in court that the American med American medical

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association colluded hired no different than happen actually happens in the stock market now but that's a whole

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another sub subject but uh they basically colluded to defamate

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chiropractors and paint us as quacks and they did a great job I mean it stuck

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stuck for many many years uh and I think it went back to like the 60s and 70s

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when they went through the court case. It was Wilks versus the AMA and that's you could look that up. It's a fact. So,

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it was a slander piece on chiropractors and people bought it. And then when you

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you couple the fact that every third commercial on TV has to do with medical

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with pharmaceuticals. Um then you look at our country is probably the wealthiest country. We have

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the best technology, the best AI, the best this, the best that. But yet we rank 69th in overall health. So there's

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other countries uh far far less superior to us and they don't have the type of

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problems that we have. So we are dependent on drugs for sure. And the more we're dependent on drugs, it's a

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repeat client. So that's really where it comes from, you know, and I know for me um I get

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very very frustrated if a patient always comes in with the same pattern. It drives me crazy. So, are you always

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holding the baby on this side? Are you always doing this on this side? Is your monitor look like this? So, we, you

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know, we we we assess you and then we figure out what can you do so you're not dependent on me. Because people go, "Oh,

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once you got to go to a chiropractor, you have to go the rest of your life." No, not really. You don't have to go as frequently. I get you from here to here

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and then I maintain you, but you won't need me every day like you would need a medication every day. So, it's a great

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question, Simon, and it was a extremely long answer. Yeah. No, that's great. And yeah, I mean, ju just being able to ask

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those questions about Yeah, like how are you sitting, how you holding your baby, what screens you looking at, you know, it's a fully well-rounded

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um healthcare approach that, you know, you're looking at occupational therapy kind of thrown in there as well. And

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it's very difficult to have like those long-winded um in-depth necessary conversations in

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like a 7 minute medical appointment with your with your with your doctor. So yeah, it's it's wonderful that we

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actually have practitioners like yourself that you know unfortunately had the experience like you have with with

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with with your mother and and what she went through in your own your own circumstances as well. But it always

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seems to me we've had so many great people on the show who have gone through those circumstances and have come out

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the other end with so much experience, so much knowledge and so much motivation to be able to support people to not go

9:03

through similar things in their lives. Yeah, we try, you know. Yeah. And uh

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yeah the what yeah the wildness of the very deliberate attack on everything other than you know prochemical

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pharmaceutical medicine is quite remarkable and chiropractic seems to be um one of the ones that survived and has

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obviously had to fight its way to be able to do that. If you talk about like homeopathy or maybe like uh her herbal

9:29

medicine these days or acupuncture depending on where you are in the world it's going to get that same kind of like

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rolled eyed look which is uh quite remarkable considering that you know herbal medicine so pharmaceutical

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medicine all comes from herbal medicine and some of these TCM ioveetic pract

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practices are thousands of years old with remarkable amounts of evidence towards them but yeah we have been very

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deliberately programmed I best to believe that anything other than, you know, like a

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doctor in a white coat and a and a prescription pad is the only way to go.

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You know, people don't realize how little nutrition doctors take, medical doctors take when they're in medical

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school. So, we take a lot of anatomy and physiology and kinesiology

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and public health and the medical doctors barely do anything on nutrition,

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which is interesting. I mean, you are what you eat, right? And there are chemical imbalances. I mean, I haven't

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really looked into what you're doing with True Hope, which really excites me,

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but people get allergies when they eat certain foods. And uh there's your brain's an organ just like the liver is

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and the digestive system. And so if there's chemical imbalances through nutrition and you're lacking certain

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nutrients, I could see the benefit of what True Hope is doing to help people with depression and mental illnesses

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because uh an allergy could affect the brain for sure. And everything within the body is so beautifully connected

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from every cell to every organ system. And if you're experiencing chronic nutrient deficiency like most people are

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because our soil is so depleted, good quality organic food so expensive, the junk food's super cheap to buy. It's uh

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it's very very easy to get into this significant state of lack and the body can only deal with that circumstance for

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for such a only for such a long period of time before it gives out and one of these systems is going to have an issue.

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And then what do we do? We go to a doctor and then we usually go and see a specialist that kind of focuses in on that one area rather than having this

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like holistic viewpoint of like the whole body is this is this as this system and it uh it really doesn't serve

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those individuals who at the end of the day like they don't want to feel terrible, they don't want to be sick, they don't want to be struggling with

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their lives, they you know they want to be happy and healthy. Yeah. Yeah. It's

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wild stuff. But um I want to really I'd love to start talking about because I know you've got a range of patients from

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like professional athletes like you've mentioned and from those who are suffering from chronic pain. So I wanted

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to ask you about what is it about chiropractic care um that makes it so

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effective for performance enhancement as well as recovery.

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One of the first teams uh so I'm in practice 29 years and I've seen it all.

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Um, it seems like in the last five years

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things are really picking up with physical medicine as far as the results we can achieve where things that I

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couldn't fix five years ago, we could fix now. It it it's mind-blowing. And um

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I love to go to seminars at least two to three times a year. Even though I only

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have to go to one a year, I try to do more. I want to do more.

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It's unbelievable. But what's interesting is that

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you do you know American football at all? I am I am famili I do get that type

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of exposure to to the NFL. Yeah. So I think it was in the late 80s. It's a

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tremendous team. Uh lot of Hall of Famers. The San Francisco 49ers.

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Joe Montana, Ronnie Lot. uh an incredible I think they won four Super

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Bowls during that era like the late 80s. But what was interesting is that they

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were one of the first teams to adopt a team chiropractor.

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And and they I mean they were a great team. There's no doubt, but you're only as good as if the players are on the

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field. If you're injured, you're not going to be as good. Uh you could look at the Detroit Lions of last year. They

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were probably the best team. They had so many injuries that they they couldn't even compete in the playoffs. So, when

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you look at getting people more structurally sound and more efficient,

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they could take those hits better, right? Something that's crooked that gets a shock is going to crumple where

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something that's in better alignment and tuned is not. And so, they the Niners

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themselves attributed their success in the late 80s due to the fact that they kept their players on the field. Um, but

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you get a patient with a crooked hip, now that hamstring's pulling different.

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Now that calf is pulling different. Now that 4640 is now a 4840, and they're

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running slower and they're not as explosive off the ball. And uh, you know, these are things that I see. I see

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an NFL lineman. He's one of the best defensive linemen in in professional

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football. can't say his name, but he's won a few Super Bowls. But he'll get into his stance and the way he pushes

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off and then when he comes in, I could see, you know, if if things are not aligned right, he's not going to have

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that drive that he's supposed to have. And you do see like some people,

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especially my tennis players, I could always tell if they're a righty or lefty. If they're not using their hips

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properly, you're going to feel a lot of tightness in their mid mid thoracic area

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because they're not properly engaging their their hip or their core. So, all these things just make a huge

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difference. And then we'll give them like counterbalancing exercises. Hey, make sure you're doing some lefty to

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even it out. If you're a lefty pitcher, do some drills righty to balance it out. That's something that I learned from

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Pete Rose Jr. Pete Rose Jr. Uh, I got to meet when I was selling a nutritional

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product, a protein powder, and Pete Rose, his dad was one of the best hitters of baseball ever. But he would

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really try to make all his players switch hitters because if you always stressing on one side, it's going to

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wear and tear too much. But the the short of it is, yeah, it makes a huge difference in performance. And if you

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could fine-tune somebody, I mean, almost every you you look at all these specials now on quarterbacks, on Netflix, a lot

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of these guys are going to chiropractors the Friday before that Sunday game because they know that they're just

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going to be more fine-tuned. That's cool. Can you give me an example of like what you what you um couldn't

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fix like five years ago that you can now? Like is it neuropathy is one neuropathy is one. Um I wish Let me see

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if I have a picture of it. Um

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I was uh sometimes we go educate some of the doctors and stuff. So this is a

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machine that's amazing. It's um I don't know if you could see that. Yeah, I can put Yeah, I can see that. Okay, so it

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looks like a traditional TENS unit that you buy off Amazon for 30 bucks. Yeah, but it's called the rebuilder and it has

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a proprietary technology where it activates what's called C fibers and it

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activates dormant sensory nerves. So people um people that about 40 to 50% of

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the population maybe 30 get neuropathy. It's it's idiopathic. They don't know where it comes from. You're 70 years old

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and all of a sudden from your elbow down to your hands or from your knee down to your feet, you can't feel anything. you

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start losing sensations in your feet. And uh that machine if they use it at

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home 30 minutes twice a day coupled that helps the nerve fibers activate dormant

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nerve cells uh through the C fiber and

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they get better. And then then we have a infrared um a red light therapy that

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they use at home 30 minutes and that helps with new capillary uh angiogenesis

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and new blood formation. Amazing. And a lot of these people almost are like 100% gone like in a month or two where the

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alternative is they take um an anti-seizure medication for the rest of their life

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which pharmaceutical company loves. Yeah. So that's one of the things that's

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the other thing it's pretty cool. The other thing is this stem cell cream. I got this from a very famous uh NFL

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quarterback got me turned on to it. And a lot of these people now are flying down to Costa Rica, Panama, because they

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take the the the placental and umbilical cells from healthy C-section babies and

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then they process it. And what the stem cells do, and this is a cream, so it doesn't have to be injected because your

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skin is the largest absorbing your skin's the largest your skin is the largest absorbing and eliminating organ

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in your body. So they use lipid nanop particles. And so you could have people that have almost bone on bone in their

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knee. It helps regrow the cartilage in the knee. Stem cells adapt to where it's abnormally firing. Is it the cartilage

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that's not firing right? The ligaments, the tendons, and it basically regrows it in like three to six months. The

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patients feel the benefit. We see differences on X-rays because when there's ligament damage and you bend

18:55

your head forward, you'll see a slippage of the bone because the ligaments are holding that bone together. And then

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we'll see like a month or two I do that same thing and the bones are moving together. There's no there's no break.

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So it could strengthen ligaments. It could help rebuild cartilage specifically in the knee and the shoulder. My girlfriend's father is a

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30-year fireboat captain in government cut here in Miami. That's where all the

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cruise ships come out of Miami. Very, very choppy water. Her dad would take this little fireboat captain and he'd

19:30

come up to the the cruise ships and very rocky water. He's got all types of tears

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in his shoulder, laborum tears and ligament instability. Within a week of

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using this cream, he's like, I can't even believe how I feel. I'm 80% better. Otherwise, he'd be getting non-stop

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steroid injections, which are degenerative for the rest of his life. That's another

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thing. Um, then the other thing that's amazing is shockwave. Shockwave is unbelievable. Uh, three

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years ago I had a massive strain in my forearm and I was like, man, this is going to take a while to fix. I got

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shockwave. It's based on German technology. It uses sound waves to break

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up. They use sound waves to break up kidney stones. That's called a focal. We

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use radio in chiropractic, which means it goes to the air and it goes like that. So affect the muscle, the

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ligament, the tendon. So if I want to penetrate here, it will get this whole area, but you feel like the muscles just

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relax. So what would take like a hamstring pull? So I'll give you the common things that I see now.

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Everybody's playing pickle and paddle. So call it padell. Some people call it

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paddle. I say, is it paddle if you have a ham sandwich and padell if you have

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caviar? I don't know what the difference is, but padell sounds more fancy. Okay, so everybody's playing pickle and

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paddle. They're all straining their former flexors and extensors. They're all pulling their calves. They're all

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pulling their hamstrings. They're all getting plantar fasciitis in their foot. The shock wave treatment and three or

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four treatments, bingo, it's gone. Now, we also give them exercises to prevent it. We also make sure their hips are in

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proper alignment. It's usually what usually happens is you have a left high hip. It's put putting more weight in

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that right side. Oh my god, I'm so smart. Guess which usually gets the plantar fasciitis the right side because

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it's getting abnormally loaded. So these are all the things that we see. That's really cool. Well, and correct me if I'm

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wrong, but I think a lot of these technologies, they used to be huge, big expensive machines that not everyone had

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access to, but now they seem to have really like nailed in the technology to

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make them. A lot of them handheld, so a lot more clinics can have them, and even know consumers themselves can have them

21:52

at home to to treat themselves. First got into practice 29 years ago, had

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$120,000 in student loans. I go out and I buy a $100,000

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uh sea arm, which is like, ever see the movie Total Recall? Of course, where he

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runs through and you can see his spine, you can see the spine in motion. So, I worked with that for a couple of years

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and I got to learn a lot about my technique and that was a lot of fun. And then when they first came out with red

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light therapy, I bought a $15,000 red light therapy machine. Now they're like

22:24

two, three, four grand, you know? So, yeah. Who was your financial adviser when you came out of school? Everything

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Everything came down in price, man. Yeah, it's Yeah, it's interesting. The technology is quite remarkable.

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It's exploding. Do you think you can do you think people can do too much and be reliant on these

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on all of these instruments or do you think there's a there's a there's uh you

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know you need to be working with the right practitioner to give you the right thing to do because I know people that you know they'll watch an Instagram ad

22:56

and they'll buy this red light thing and then they'll buy this ultra violet you know they'll buy all these things and

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it's a bit you could over you could overdo it you know you could overdo it again you know is it is it repetitive in

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nature is there things that you could do prevent it. Can you take fish oils to in decrease your inflammation naturally and

23:13

stuff like that? You know, I mean, yeah, it's obviously very very helpful

23:19

to be able to use, you know, sound waves or or light to be able to engage with

23:24

your skin to, you know, heal you kind of from the from an external way in. But

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then now if you're able to provide your body with for example like the correct

23:35

available nutrients so your body is able to galvanize those and use those on a on

23:40

a consistent basis to be able to heal you kind of from the inside. I feel if you're if you're working responsibly

23:46

with both of those things you can you can do remarkable things for your recovery for your performance and I

23:52

guess for your for your general health. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes we get to patients playing pickle and paddle. They

23:59

grip the the racket too tight. That's another issue too that we see. But but

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listen, the thing, this thing's amazing, the stem cell, because I I have patients that were um professional tennis

24:11

players. They're now 60. They have arthritic hands, they have arthritic elbows, and uh they've done PRP

24:18

injections, they've actually done stem cell injections, and I find that this thing works better. Interesting. I'm

24:25

going to I'm totally going to look in into that for my dad cuz he could certainly benefit from something like that. But I know you've also like within

24:32

on your on your website I've noticed you've mentioned advanced techniques like trigenics um my neural

24:39

method and dry needling. Can you tell me a little bit about about that and how um

24:45

you know that sounds like that doesn't sound like a traditional chiropractic care option. So how how has that come

24:50

into into the uh into the world of chiropractics? Yeah. So, active release therapy really

24:57

started like the soft tissue movement because we know that when there's scar tissue or there's tight muscles, it's

25:04

going to be hard to adjust something. So, a lot of times you could do these soft tissue releases and lengthen the

25:09

tissue and uh when you go go ahead and adjust them, it's a lot easier or they'll hold their adjustment better.

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So, I got introduced to trigenics myural technique. Um, I forget how. Oh, cuz my

25:23

son's a pitcher and he was having some issues with his shoulder. So, we had him get checked out by the practitioner. I said, "Man, that really works." So,

25:32

I got trained in it. And when I got trained in it, the first guy we we did, we worked on, he was a veteran, and he

25:40

jumped he jumped off a cliff or something and like broke like 10 bones

25:45

in his body. Had all this type of scar tissue. He had numbness in his hands and his feet. So we did all this soft tissue

25:52

release and by the end of we worked on the guy for like an hour and by the time we were done it it basically un unt

25:58

unttrapped the nerve and all that sensations went away and it also focuses

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on the rehab as well and what muscles to strengthen as well. So that's a phenomenal technique trigenics. Um I'm

26:10

sorry is trigenics is that that's like is that like a you'd be having your hands on somebody that's like a manual technique? It's a manual technique very

26:17

much so. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. So, I mean, you could literally, you know, there's 600 muscles in the body. You

26:22

could release any muscle in the body. It's really just a contract, relax technique. It's like a lengthening, but

26:28

you're also hitting the muscle fiber in a certain way to release the muscle. It feels great. Especially when you do it

26:34

on the traps, like people here, everybody's tight here, and you release that, it's like, oh my god. And then

26:40

when you go to adjust them chiropractically, it's very, you don't have to use a lot of force. Interesting. So, that would be something you would do

26:46

maybe pre-adjustment. Pre-adjustment. And then the people love the dry

26:51

needling. Um, I'm trained in it. I don't use it that much anymore to be honest

26:56

because I feel like the shock wave does what I need to do. The shock wave sends

27:02

those waves in there, those sound waves, and the muscle just I tell all my Spanish patients, it makes it like a millise flattens it out. Okay. You get

27:10

like a tight muscle and it just Yeah. Well, that's great. Now, some of these options just seem to be super

27:16

beneficial. And yeah, as you said, like the technology and the techniques and the training becoming more available to

27:21

different people, it's just yeah, if we can relieve people's aches and pains and get them on the right path, it's uh, you

27:26

know, it's wonderful. We, you know, here at here at True Hope, we we engage with people on a daily basis who have been,

27:33

you know, locked into a medical diagnosis and a series of drugs for, you

27:39

know, sometimes 10, 20, 30 years. and they're looking for an alternative answer, looking for something different

27:45

to to relieve their symptoms, to make them feel better rather than just like just

27:52

existing. And um I totally I know somebody like so I'll give you an example. I know somebody that's been in

28:01

a schizophrenia hospital for 30 years and they're on like six to eight

28:07

different medications. And I guess it just basically these medications make them docile. It just it's just a Yeah.

28:15

You know, almost like um become sheeple like just just the

28:21

sedatives of constant sedatives, right? Yeah. Have you had success of weaning

28:27

somebody off these eight six eight medications and like how does that how does that work? It's an amazing question

28:34

and the product was originally designed for the founders children who were

28:40

suffering with bip bipolar disorder with rapid cycling. Yeah. And that was what

28:45

the original research was done on and just the fact that you mentioned like six to eight medications and I've got

28:52

I've got to mention like you know these these individual medications are certainly like researched and um studied

28:58

to be you know proven to be safe for the market. to what extent I don't know but there's no way that they research these

29:05

product these drugs together let alone six to eight of them you know they don't research them together and like they

29:12

don't know the side effects longterm or even short term like what these medications will do to each other and a

29:18

lot of the time you know 20 to 50% of the medications someone might be on are just there to be dealing with the side

29:24

effects of the other medications that they started on. So, it can end up being a bit of a cocktail, a bit of a mess.

29:30

That's quite typical with bipolar disorder. Someone would usually be put on something like lithium to begin with,

29:35

but it wouldn't be uncommon after, you know, 10, 20 years of trying to help um

29:41

deal with somebody's symptoms that they might be on five plus different medications. But what we have here at

29:47

True Hope is a a micronutrient support team. So, anybody who is um so it even

29:52

says it on the label here like if you're taking a psychotropic medication and you're looking to

29:58

come off that and be relying on basically bro food and nutrients um in

30:05

bioavailable forms, then you need to be working with them, having conversations with our micronutrient support team so

30:10

they can help people um wean off these products. So wean off these drugs

30:16

properly because there is a cross titration that will happen if you start taking these products with certain

30:22

psychotropic medications and our team is so well um versed in these medications.

30:27

You know we've got nearly 30 years of experience now working with people. We've had this um support options from

30:33

day one because it is complex and it is very you know not everybody gets the

30:39

support from their psychiatrist or their doctor to come off their medications because obviously you know doctors

30:45

aren't aren't trained in nutrition they're trained in in in diagnosis and and they're trained in prescriptions. So

30:51

coming off that path is um it's not something they're trained in. I I guess it would be something they'd be scared

30:58

scared to work with. But there are certainly psychiatrists and doctors out there who have, I want to say, seen the light and have seen people want to take

31:06

an alternative route and have been really successful that we've had we've had Michelle Ringer on the show a couple

31:11

of times. She wrote an amazing book about her transformation using this product to to basically relieve herself

31:17

of her bipolar disorder that she doesn't have anymore using micronutrients. And

31:23

um she basically did everything wrong. She didn't call micronutrient support. she like came off of all of her meds

31:29

cold turkey and she wrote a whole book about how it is not a good idea to do that. Um, and in regards to

31:35

schizophrenia, there are we do have I think there's one or maybe even two papers um that have shown the using

31:42

micronutrients to help provide the brain primarily with the minerals. Most minerals on the market are um are

31:50

chelated, broken down for four hours and then put in the capsules and then put put out there. But we we break down our

31:56

minerals for 4 days. So they're able to cross the bloodb brain barrier and actually nutrate the brain. And that is

32:02

the primary reason why, you know, the initial research showed such amazing results with bipolar disorder. But we

32:07

see across the board with our research, 35 peer-review medical journals, ADHD,

32:13

depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, stress, trauma, you name it. This product has been able to

32:19

support people just to be able to get nutrition into their brain to deal with the

32:25

the fact that they've got to get toxins out of their brain and they've got to get nutrition in to help allow them to

32:31

create good quality brain cells and allow that transmission to happen. So yeah, so that's again I've just given

32:37

you a long-winded answer to your question which is such a good one, but we see remarkable success and it's it's

32:43

such a shame that um you know we up here in Canada it's very very challenging to

32:49

get natural health products on the market. It's very very challenging and in America they're classified as food.

32:54

It's a lot easier. there's a lot less red tape. And if it wasn't for like, you know, deliberate actions by Health

33:01

Canada, then I'd love to think that anybody who went in to see their doctor and who was struggling with anxiety or

33:07

depression or a TBI or a concussion, something like that, they'd be put on this product first to help get their

33:15

brain the right nutrition it needs to deal with that actual physical stress before jumping on to like a harsh

33:21

pharmaceutical medication that, you know, technically they wouldn't ever really come off because they'd be

33:26

relying on that forever. So, by the way, I did get your product.

33:32

You did? Great. I sent you one. I sent Dr. Edward and I have taken it a few times. Okay.

33:42

What if I'm, you know, depending on the day, I'm usually not, you know, bipolar.

33:48

I'm, you know, I'm joking. Like, a somewhat normal person like myself. I don't think anybody's normal, but uh a

33:55

person that doesn't have mental health challenges, do I take it? It's a very very good

34:01

question and the answer answer is absolutely yes. I mean I I I don't have any personally I don't have any clinical

34:08

diagnosis of anything. But you know, I've got two young kids. You know, I work a lot. I like to have a lot of

34:14

energy to to hike and play golf and play soccer and all these things. Do I need to supplement my diet because there's no

34:20

way I can get the necessary nutrition from my en energetic requirements from the terrible food that we have and the

34:26

terrible soil. So I'm I take I take 4 Empower Plus twice a day along with our

34:32

free aminos product which is a a free form amino acid. And if I don't take it and I forget to take it, I I feel it

34:40

very very quickly. I think my body has very much got used to having that extra nutrition come in and I just get a

34:46

little bit more my patience disappears a little bit more. I get a little bit more angry sometimes in those situations

34:52

where you know my patience I guess is being tested. So for me like it's uh it's um it's performance optimal just

34:59

for my everyday dealings. And that just goes to show that the know the evidence that we do have that these 35

35:05

peer-reviewed medical journals you know it's going across this wild wild spectrum of psychological disorders.

35:11

You've got like psych you've got schizophrenia and psychosis and bipolar on one end and then you've got like

35:17

stress and traumas, anxiety and depressions on the other and everything in between. um just going to show that

35:23

this this product's just getting into the body and fueling the brain and uh body with the right nutrition it needs

35:29

to function optimally and everyone can benefit from that whether you do have a

35:34

psychological disorder which I think in many cases many psychiatrists we've had on the show would argue that a lot of

35:41

these significant psychological disorders is just chronic nutrient deficiency and a lot of people who do

35:47

have a um genetic disposition to requiring more of certain and vitamins and nutrients and minerals. They're the

35:55

ones that exhibit these wild symptoms that end up obviously getting classified in these areas of bipolar disorder and

36:02

schizophrenia etc. But across the board, most people are nutrient deficient and

36:08

would absolutely benefit from this product. And as I said before, if it wasn't for um government entities,

36:15

especially in this country, doing their very best to not have this as an option because this is a direct competitor to

36:21

anti-depressants. There's we've got evidence for that as well that it's three to five times more effective than anti-depressants. And in health, you

36:27

know, Health Canada, for example, like twothirds of their money come from pharmaceutical companies. And you can

36:33

see in their literature that they they um they consider them clients of theirs.

36:39

So that wouldn't be good for business if people are just, you know, taking a natural product that is cheap and

36:46

effective. Um, so yeah, that's it's complex, especially up here in in in

36:52

Canada, but no, I it's just the reason why we do this every day here at True Hope, is just we don't want we don't

36:58

want people to go through the tragedy and trauma that, you know, our founder our founders's family went through. And

37:03

that's kind of where this True Hope piece comes from. as as you know what you're the work you're doing and the education that you continue to do and

37:09

the motivation and passion you have for your work. You want to see people thrive and and get rid of their pains and be

37:15

able to go out there and do all the amazing things that you know God has given us in this world. So hold that

37:21

thought. I got a few things I want to get this bottle here. Hold on. Okay, go for it. All right. So you take four of

37:26

these twice a day with or without food? I my gut seems to deal with it

37:32

absolutely fine with or without food. True. So depending on my circumstance I

37:37

don't usually eat my first meal until like 10 or 11:00. So I usually kick off with uh like a protein shake and I'll

37:44

take my supplements at the same time and I will take them before 4:00 because

37:49

they can affect sleep. They can keep you up. They are, you know, it's an energizing product for sure.

37:56

But what we could do is, you know, you we can come back in a month once you've you've taken the product for a month.

38:02

See how you're doing. See if you should I go should I should I do four twice a day or should I start less? Maybe start

38:08

with maybe start with uh three twice a day and then bump that up. See how you're feeling. Obviously, it's a new

38:13

something new that's going to be coming into your body. See how see if you and if you you know if your gut guts feeling fine with it, you don't feel any like

38:21

nausea or anything. You shouldn't feel anything like that. But um then bump up to four twice a day and that bottle will

38:28

be gone in no time and that nutrition will be straight straight in there. Yeah. some of the some of the more

38:34

recent research with concussions and TBI is so so good because obviously because

38:40

the the the trauma that you know somebody's physically getting you know from let's just say know we talked about we talked about American football and we

38:47

know obviously know about the concussions um within that with know with the movies and all of the publicity

38:54

that that's got but what is there like right now in like the the medical medical literature to be able to you

39:00

know give somebody to actually get nutrition nutrition into their brain to deal with the the trauma within within

39:06

that system. At the end of the day, it's broken down cells that have, you know,

39:12

that are wrapped around in um toxins and things that need to get out.

39:19

I'm looking at this stuff. So, llutamine is great for muscle recovery. Uh looks

39:24

like you have a lot of things like uh chromium. So, does it have an effect on

39:30

blood sugar? positive effect on blood sugar on the It certainly does. I mean, we actually have

39:37

Inorositol in there as well and that's it's an incredible incredible um blood sugar balance and we we actually have

39:43

all of the product we so we just have six products in the Canadian division here at True Hope Canada and every

39:49

single product starting with Empire Plus we bought out a new product to complement each other. um we saw kind of

39:56

gaps in the market where people either didn't there wasn't a product out there to support people with this or there was

40:02

and it was just wasn't up to standard. So that's kind of where we would introduce a new product. So when I first

40:07

got into practice 29 years ago, I used to used to do slides and powerpoints and

40:13

lectures and uh one of the one of the slides that we had was a picture of one

40:19

head of lettuce and 20 heads of lettuce and we would um what's the word I'm

40:26

looking for? We would illustrate the fact that what we're eating now, the

40:33

soil's been so overtilled that there's not as it's nutrient deficient. Our

40:38

foods are nutrient deficient. You got it. Kind of falls in line with what you're talking about. So you'd have to

40:44

eat 20 heads of this is now 28 nine years ago, by the way. Yeah. It's going to be more now. Yeah. I mean, I don't

40:50

know. Who knows what Monsanto what Bill Gates are doing. I don't know. But I've

40:55

been taking I've been taking supplements forever, right? Yeah, that's a good that's a really good point. I mean, I

41:00

went to nutrition school 10 years ago and I had this egotistical idea that oh no, I can just get everything from food.

41:06

I don't need to supplement. I'm super young, super healthy. And very quickly I learned that, you know, it's our soil

41:12

and it's our food and it's this nutrient history we have of mon mono agriculture

41:17

that everyone has to be supplementing and it and it what's what sucks is that

41:22

up here in Canada that it make they make it so expensive like you know if you you've got to be in like literally the

41:28

top 1% to be able to supplement yourself properly because the red tape that keeps coming up manufacturers it's yeah it's

41:36

it's really really here it's the halves and have nots. You know, we have a whole department in our South Beach office

41:42

that's regenerative medicine, $3,000, $10,000 membership. It's it's a it's within the practice. I don't own it, but

41:50

it's for the people that have means, you know. Yeah, it's it's challenging and it's those people that are, you know,

41:56

struggling to make make ends meet, that have the significant stresses, that have the significant anxieties, that need

42:01

this product more than most. And we do absolutely everything we possibly can here at True Hope to bring the price

42:07

down as much as we can. But you know, like Health Canada for example with their self-care framework, that's a whole topic. They're doing their very

42:14

best to make it challenging to get products out there, site licenses, product licenses, making it more and

42:20

more expensive for the manufacturers. And then we we have to put our prices up otherwise we go out of business. So it's

42:25

it's it's it's super challenging, but yeah, we we're doing everything we possibly can. We get I'm lucky here at

42:32

True Hope that I get to see all the social media. I get to see our website interactions where people are like know

42:37

thanking God that they actually were able to find us because we're not people we're not just people's true hope. We're like their last hope in many instances

42:44

and it's um it's kind of what keeps us going for sure. So do you work with the patients? I mean

42:51

again like if somebody's on six or eight medications where does this person start

42:56

you know? Yeah, another great question. And I I get I get that probably four or

43:02

five times a week. I get that message through our website saying, "I'm on this, this, this, and this." Like, where

43:07

do I begin? Because I can only imagine if I was on six medications and I've had this history of going to the doctor and

43:13

and these symptoms for 10, 20, 30 years, and then I find this

43:19

I find this hope. I find this true hope, this this this alternative option. What a scary um place that would be for

43:26

somebody. I'm taking this now by the way. Go ahead. I'm all excited now. Go ahead. There you go. Get it in you. That's great. So yeah, we get this

43:33

question very very frequently and I I immediately direct people to this micronutrient support team and I I'll

43:39

put a link in the description of this show because I'm sure a lot of people will be interested to learn more about that. But they're so well verssed in

43:45

regards to the medications that are being prescribed for depression. So, so

43:50

people, so people can consult your people online to get Yeah, precisely.

43:55

So, you can call up you can have a conversation with them and then we have like a monthly payment program that you

44:00

would be involved in that you basically could call up and and be and get consulted with as much as you need to

44:08

get you get you to a place where you know you are just being reliant on Empower Plus. And

44:14

um obviously we have conversations about the other things that are very very important when it comes to your mental

44:19

health whether that be like exercise and the the food that you are consuming as well as the supplements. These are all

44:24

very very important topics. You know we can go into alcohol consumption and

44:30

marijuana consumption because all of these things have a negative um interaction with the these products and

44:36

your ability to absorb nutrients. So, it's a very full well-rounded um

44:42

approach just like you know you were talking about within your practice that you you know you've got to be talking about people's occupation and what

44:48

they're doing at home is very very important when it comes to how you can treat them and how they can treat

44:54

themselves. Yeah, that's great. Um I would love to ask you about chronic

45:00

pain. Such a big issue for a lot of people. um how what are some of the

45:06

misconceptions that you often see about how to manage it and how do you address them in your practice when it comes to

45:12

chronic pain? You know, it's interesting. Uh

45:19

say about 15 years ago, there was a big push with fibromyalgia

45:26

and chronic pain. I remember that. Such a it was such a big thing. Can you

45:32

explain quickly what that that is? Fibromyalgia to people who don't know. It's just a chronic pain syndrome. Oh,

45:37

hold on. Um, okay. It's just a chronic pain syndrome. Um, chronic inflammation

45:44

in the joints. Uh, could be could be chemical where they're one of the things

45:50

that could happen is if you don't properly digest your food, what could happen is proteins could travel into the

45:57

joint sites and create inflammation. So, one of the things you want to do is make sure your gut, like you're saying,

46:04

gut absorption. Uh, you could do digestive am enzymes like amalayise, lipase,

46:10

um, to help digest the food. You could use things like marshmallow root and

46:16

aloe vera to help the stomach wall and the lining. So

46:21

I think what happens with some of these people with fibromyalgia is they a lot of them have digestive issues creates a

46:28

these a chemical reaction inside the joints for whatever reason

46:34

in the last like 10 years you don't really hear about this interesting you noticed that yeah I I have I remember I

46:41

remember exactly the thing like 15 years ago I don't know if more people are taking

46:48

fish oil, which helps with chronic inflammation and pain. I don't know. It's there's been um

46:54

there's certainly been a massive influx of like prebiotics, probiotics, gut integrity, gut health in the last in the

47:02

last 1015 years. Like that's been huge. Like you can you can go buy a probiotic drink at dollar store these days. I

47:09

don't see I don't see fibromyalgia patients like that anymore. When it comes to chronic pain, what I do see

47:16

that's interesting is like I have a woman right now. She's 68 years old. She

47:22

can barely walk. She's almost bone on bone in her right knee. When I examine

47:27

her, her left hip is higher, so it's putting more weight on the right side.

47:33

Her spine is shifted to the right, so she's going to be putting more weight down that side of the body. So, we have

47:41

to fix both of those things. We have a table that can pivot and maneuver and I

47:46

could mold your spine like clay to reposition it. But she'll have chronic

47:52

pain if we don't fix that structural imbalance hitting that right knee, that

47:58

right hip, that right foot. So now what we're doing with her, not not

48:04

necessarily nutritionally, although almost anybody could benefit, it sounds like from this product, from fish oils,

48:12

um from good good digestive stuff like probiotics, uh I have all that type of stuff is um now we could use the red

48:22

light therapy on her knee to help decrease the swelling. we could use the stem cell cream to help regrow that

48:29

cartilage and and and fortify those ligaments and tendons. So I'm seeing

48:35

more repetitive micro trauma than I am say

48:41

fibromyalgia now for whatever reason. Uh could be it could be text neck. Another

48:47

thing people are constantly looking down. So even I'm looking down right now. So I tell them you know raise your

48:54

monitor up so you're kind of looking up a little bit not down all day you know.

49:01

So that's the kind of chronic pain that I'm seeing now. Um is either structural

49:06

in e chiropractic or it's postural, not so much the fibromyalgia which is

49:12

whatever. Interesting. Yeah. No, that is interesting. And yeah, the chronic pain piece, the chronic nutrient deficiency

49:19

piece, you know, for a lot for a long per long periods of time, people get into these positions. And it can be

49:25

challenging as a practitioner that to to help people find like a long-term solution because people are just like

49:31

we're just used to these quick fixes, right? And for a lot of people that chronic pain, you know, you patient

49:37

you're talking about 68 years of age, you know, she's been she's, you know, she's had 68 years alive. It's not like

49:43

that chronic pain has just like you know turned up one day. It's obviously accumulated over years and years and

49:48

years. And the same thing with like chronic nutrient deficiency and then boom like one part of the somebody's

49:54

body can't sustain that environment anymore and then you know they have this

50:01

pain, they have discomfort, they have this symptomology and it can be a challenge I think. Yeah. How do how do

50:06

you deal with that challenge when you've got somebody who's coming in with a long-term issue and they're looking for a very quick fix and you know how do you

50:13

explain that to people because it's it can be challenging. It's funny and uh in my the Spanish

50:20

neighborhoods that I work in uh I don't really speak Spanish but some of my patients call me manos the hands of God

50:28

right? They like my hands and I tell them they call me manos

50:33

whatever manus whatever it is but I'm I'm no Jesus I'm not Jesus I'm like I'm

50:39

not a miracle worker you I'll do the best I can yeah you know but

50:44

I my game plan is really simple and I do a lot of consults of people I don't know

50:50

which and uh your people are more than welcome to contact me uh you can thank

50:56

God for this nerve rebuilding machine with the neuropathies and these chronic pains, uh, chronic muscle spasms. That

51:04

machine's amazing, the one I showed you off my phone. And thank God for the stem cell cream. Um, but you have to know who

51:12

needs it and why they need it. And I don't just sell things just to sell it. You tell me what have you tried, what

51:18

have you done. It's very common that I'm like this. I'm like the I'm the guy that fixes things most

51:24

people can't. A, I've been doing it 29 years. B,

51:30

I like to investigate things and know why something did or didn't work. And then C,

51:37

it's because I know what didn't work for you. So, it's not that I'm so great. It's that if you told me I did this,

51:44

this, and this, and all right, how' the doctor do it? What did you do? And what what was your regimen? And what was the

51:49

quality of that? I could kind of figure it out, you know? So

51:55

I would say like anybody here if you have something that nobody's helping with. So getting back to the point is

52:02

if I work on somebody I tell patients if I work on you four or five times and

52:07

you're not 50% better either I'm not helping you either I suck or this is not going to

52:15

work from you and we're gonna have to do something else. So not that it's going to like you're saying you have a

52:21

lifetime of issues 70 years 60 years but we should once the body gets what it

52:26

needs and I know this when I had cancer it sucks it up like a sponge. When your

52:32

body gets what it needs, like the oh things take time. They do take time, but

52:37

when the body gets what it needs, it responds very quickly. Very, very quickly. And then and then it

52:45

will get incremental. It'll and then it'll incrementally get better. Yeah. It's just it's designed to do that,

52:51

right? If you give it the right ingredients, then it's gonna it's going to do miraculous things. Um, as a final

52:58

takeaway for people watching, listening, what simple steps can people take today

53:05

um to better integrate chiropractic principles and foundational nutrition into their wellness journey? What would

53:11

you recommend? I would say uh you know, I'm 52. The musthaves for me is uh

53:19

definitely good digestive health for sure. Um,

53:24

I have a friend of mine, his dad is 92. He looks absolutely phenomenal. I I've

53:30

known the guy for 40 years. He always walked around with a little pill case of vitamins. And he always took digestive

53:38

enzymes when he ate. Again, there's different grades and levels to it. Doesn't mean if it's more expensive,

53:44

it's better. Doesn't always work like that. That's why what you're talking about the way you guys are doing the

53:49

chilation process and helping it assimilate to the cells sounds amazing.

53:54

Uh I would say definitely I would definitely do some type of cleanse a

54:00

couple of times a year. Uh infrared saunas are good. Sweating are good.

54:06

Definitely some cardio two or three times a week or walking. I like to get my heart rate up to like 150. Getting

54:14

adjusted a few times a year. definitely helps. Go to a really good chiropractor.

54:19

Um, I do take before and after X-rays and before and after postural images so a patient could ever say, "You didn't

54:25

fix me." I mean, you come in and you look like this and then after like five treatments you look like that. I'm

54:31

sorry. Good luck trying to sue me. You know, not I'm not that's not the

54:36

reason why I do it, but I like to make objective changes. But I would say good digestive health is important. Good

54:42

enzymes. I love the minerals. Everybody's mineral deficient for sure.

54:48

Our our food is robbed of nutrients. People go to the grocery stores and they

54:53

go in the rat maze. You should stay on the perimeter of the supermarket. That's where your

55:00

meats, fish, vegetables, and your live food is in the rat maze. M aisles, those

55:07

things have a very long shelf life because they're dead. You eat dead food, you become dead. So

55:14

when you shop, stay in the perimeter. Get your ass moving. Get some adjustments. Get some minerals in you.

55:22

Get some good digestive health. Look into infrared saunas.

55:29

There you go. That's fantastic. Yeah, that's uh amazing recommendations. I really appreciate that. And I I really

55:34

appreciate your time today. I really appreciate your um openness to tell us your story, tell us more about who you

55:40

are, what you do, and your openness to, you know, be interested in True Hope and and the products that we do. And you've

55:46

asked some amazing questions about about that as well. So, thank you so much for that. Can you let people know where they

55:52

can contact you or where they can learn more about you and your work? Yeah, real easy. So, it's miamic chiropractic US.

56:00

I should have had miamic chiropractic.com, but I waited a week too long and somebody took it.

56:08

Miam mi, you know, you could figure out how to spell that. miamic chiropractic US. You need anything, you could find me

56:17

there. And u that's it. And if you have any, hey, you think this will work for

56:22

me, that will work for me. I just had a meeting an hour ago with somebody. He has an international soft softball

56:28

organization and he's like, you know, could you make yourself available to them? I go, yeah, a lot of times people

56:34

contact me and I say, I think this will work. This will work. This will work. I mean, I have 29 years of experience and I I don't BS anybody.

56:42

Well, I'm sure a lot of your patients really appreciate that because, you know, who's got the time to be BS these

56:48

days? I don't. I don't either. Well, do thank you so much again for coming on

56:54

the show. Um, I really appreciate your time today. Thank you so much. Thank you. Awesome. Well, that is it for this

57:00

episode of True Hope Cast, the official podcast of True Hope Canada. I will leave

57:07

all the information you need to get in contact with Dr. Edward in the show notes, his website there, and I'm going

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to put a couple other links in there to some of the things he's recommended and mentioned. Um, so you can learn more

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next week. [Music]