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when my son was one years old so this is my second child um so this one he's almost 9 years old now so when he was

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one um we actually took him to a wellness checkup um and he actually received 11 vaccines with four pokes at

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that time um and me not really knowing fully you know the schedule I just kind of was going along like like we do that

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we take you our kids to the wellness checkup and we and we just do what we're supposed to do right um and so he um

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little did I know kind of looking back now when I saw his uh vaccine record they actually gave him a 5 in1 vaccine

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that day that was not on the schedule it was just obviously way too much for his body and he he couldn't handle it we

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came home he he had a nap um got up and then I fed him and he threw up um and I

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thought okay you know didn't think much of it that day but then that continued so he actually threw up basically the

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same time of day at supper time so he' he'd eat supper and he'd throw up he actually continued to do that for 30 days

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greetings hello good day wherever you are in this beautiful wondrous world thank you for joining true Hope cast the

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official podcast of true hope Canada my name is Simon and I am your host we at true hope are a mind and body based

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episodes during this series of episodes we are diving into some testimonials from clients who have used our products

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and experienced lifechanging events today we have got the honor of talking with Michelle spray now Michelle is a

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registered holistic nutritionist and works out of inner strength Family Chiropractic and Wellness in Saskatoon

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Michelle's got an incredible story that she's going to share that primar involves her son and herself and I'm

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really excited to get into it because the remarkable recovery stories I hear on a frequent basis working with true

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Hope just always blows my mind because through such incredible impediment and

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obstacle the human nature is able to literally perform Miracles I've been

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working with true hope for over 3 years now and I have heard miraculous story after miraculous story and it is pure

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and simple micronutrient supplementation that is able to do these impossible things Michelle welcome to the show

2:33

thank you so much for being here how are you I'm doing well Simon thanks so much for having me awesome now it's great to

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have you with us um let's just get straight into a little bit of your backstory so why don't you let us know about your nutrition practice and the uh

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the clinic space that you work at yeah so um I've always been really passionate about nutrition um all throughout my

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life even you know as a kid I was always very interested in nutrition how it affected the body and you know just

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having some my own you know body issues or things like that and um I eventually um went on to University and I ended up

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actually going into the College of Education um because when I looked at going into the dietitian College they kind of dissuaded me a little bit said

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there was not a lot of jobs and and back then I didn't know about being an entrepreneur like I am today um so you

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know just being a kid not really knowing yet so I went on kind of followed in my parents footsteps um became a high

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school chemistry and math teacher um so I kind of went that direction first um I'll kind of fast forward my husband and

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I used to um Farm organic grain and and cattle um and So eventually we sold out

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of the farm and we moved towards sason to be close to my parents for support um and then I ran a health and wellness um

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online health and wellness business from home um eventually it allowed me to go back to school to do what I was really

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passionate about which is nutrition so I went um to uh uh csnn um which is based

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out of um Alberta or sorry BC and um yeah it I really really enjoy it I was

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able to do it from home while I had my kids and I was running my business at the same time um and then I also also

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hired a personal Mentor who was also holistic nutritionist for a very long time a lot of years um she actually

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helped build that college um and so she really helped me on my journey so I was able to start my nutrition business

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right away with her being my mentor so that was back kind of end of 2017 beginning of 2018 um so I had clients

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kind of all across Canada um from home so I would you know talk to them over the phone or over Zoom or things like

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that um and then kind of fast forward when I met um my now business partner Dr

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Shantel Goring um in 2018 we just really hit it off right away and we were joined

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at the hip and we just knew it was really a calling I I never thought I would work outside of the home again um

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but for me it was just a calling I knew that we needed to work together because we were just so much power more powerful

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together um so in November of 2018 I joined with her at Inner Strength Family Chiropractic and Wellness um and so yeah

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since then we've been um working with all of our patients together um simultaneously so we do kind of a

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wraparound holistic approach that's really cool and I'm a little bit familiar with your story and I know the

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chiropractic side of things is very very relevant which which we we'll certainly get into why don't you tell us a little

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bit about your family yeah so I have uh four children they're U so two boys and

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two girls my oldest is 12 and then I have an 8-year-old who's will be nine actually in about a week um and I have a

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seven-year-old and now a five Monon so and then my husband Shane yeah that's

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great wonderful thanks for sharing so let's get into your story because your

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story is involves your obviously involves your family but I think primarily involves yourself and it involves your son yeah and um so let's

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get maybe let's get into things when it started to go a little bit kind of like sideways when you you began this journey

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and I believe um that your son was having some gastrointestinal issues yes

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and he was one at the time yeah so yeah yeah please so yeah let's let's kind of start this journey with

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that if you don't mind yeah so um when my son was one years old so this is my second child um so this one he's almost

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9 years old now so when he was 1 um we actually took him to a wellness checkup um and he actually received 11 vaccines

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with four pokes at that time um and me not really knowing fully you know the schedule I just kind of was going along

6:26

like like we do that we take your our kids to the wellness checkup and we and we just do what we're supposed to do

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right um and so he um little did I know kind of looking back now when I saw his

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uh vaccine record they actually gave him a 5in one vaccine that day that was not on the schedule so we had five more

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vaccine uh five more vaccines that day than he was supposed to have so he so

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he's one years old he goes for this standard Wellness checkup and is it normal to get

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11 doses in what you say four Jabs in po jobs yeah is that normal uh so I mean I

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think it's becoming more normal um because they're just incorporating more and more vaccines into the schedule but

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at that time no that was not normal that wasn't even uh the actual schedule so um

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it was just obviously way too much for his body and he he couldn't handle it we came home he he had a nap um got up and

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then I fed him and he threw up um and I thought okay you know didn't think much of it that day but then that continued

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so he actually threw up basically the same time of day at supper time so he' he'd eat supper and he'd throw up he

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actually continued to do that for 30 days um I had been in contact with the health nurse office I asked them I said

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you know what's going on I like my son's saring up every day otherwise he has no symptoms he seems totally fine um and

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you know is this connected to the vaccines or is this you know a reaction and they said no absolutely 0% chance so

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they kind of just shut the door instead of saying here maybe we should figure out what's going on right and just just

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to get clear so before you went into that into the clinic he he wasn't vomiting no he was totally healthy yeah

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he's he was a very early developer um so he walked early he was talking he was

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just H he was just amazing both my middle children were uh very early developers yeah okay so and then you go

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to the clinic you get these Jabs and then you I mean obviously you know you're his mother so you've been with

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him like every day significant amount time so you're going to recognize any

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psychological any behavioral any physiological things that come up so

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okay so 30 days this persists you call up and it's kind of strange that they would say there's absolutely no way that

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this is connected to these things that happen um but you know yeah so what what happens from that yeah so um continuing

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on from there um he actually continue to throw up about three to four times a

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week on average for about 3 years wow from from 1 to four three to four or

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five times a week some was throwing at the same kind of time of the day was it like after eating so always in the night

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so he started throwing up in the night about 2: in the morning um he and I I tried lots of different things I would

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you know he couldn't eat for certain periods of time before bed I tried you know eliminating different types of

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foods um definitely developed major texture issues couldn't eat a lot of vegetables um any sort of texture

9:30

sometimes he would even get it down and throw it up so he would actually throw up other times just from texture issues

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um but just the the throwing up for you know not in conjunction with a specific food would be in the middle of the night

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and IID talk to doctors I'd talk to the you know the health nurses and and I would always tell them that this

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happened you know right after the vaccine and so they kind of just put their hand up in my face and kind of

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shut the door and I feel like you know looking back what would have been better for them to do is to say maybe they

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would have still said You know this has nothing to do with the vaccines but here let's help you let's figure out what's

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going on with your son but they didn't yeah cuz it's I think it's okay for them to say no it's not it's not connected

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but they offering another solution or to investigate and do some other Diagnostics you know you're you're the

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patient you're the the patient's mother and you've obviously you know you're experiencing some wild things at home

10:23

with your son yeah in a must have the anxiety and stress levels are just you know I have I have one a half yearold

10:30

and just you never stop thinking about their health and wellbeing right so yeah

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like it's it's kind of wild that they would just like completely shut the door and not like investigate further so like

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where's your head at with this are you obvious are you investigating things are you looking things up yeah so at the

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time yeah I just started to I started to kind of look into things and research and and still I it took me a while to

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really fully um dig further into vaccines as well because I did want to believe them

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you know even though it was so apparent to me it was so in my face that it literally happened that same day and

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before that he was eating you know SP and meat sauce and vegetables and he had such a vared diet and then he went to

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only being able to eat like very few foods and you know so it was just so dramatic to me um and then it continued

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to get worse um you know as his symptoms got worse and I started looking more into things and um he eventually he

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wasn't able to feel hot cold or pain well his speech you know just wasn't veloping as it should he would kind of

11:31

start to talk properly and then it would just come out like garbage out of his mouth um he couldn't form friendships or

11:38

relationships he was just basically running all over the place we couldn't even go you know we couldn't go downtown

11:43

or go to um the forestry Farm or things like that because he would just run away how was it with with your other kids and

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and at home how what was it like at home yeah I mean I have a lot of guilts kind of looking back at that because I you

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know I I feel really bad that I was always having to keep everything really calm all the time because any sort of

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over stimulation he would just be all over the place and you would kind of see his eyes just you know kind of go blank

12:08

a little bit um and he would just not be able to control himself so if we kept everything really really calm then it

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would keep him calm and so I kind of forced them to do that instead of just being able to be

12:20

kids yeah that's that's really tricky for for home life right and um the the

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um the way that children of ly naturally develop and you have ch you had children already right so you you know that

12:33

progression and you you I'm just significantly convinced that a parent especially a mother knows when something

12:40

is is wrong yeah absolutely um so how does that when does your cuz this has to

12:47

be the most stressful anxiety I'm just like shaking inide just thinking about

12:52

thinking about this but um so where does this where does this lead into you and your your physical manifestations of of

13:01

of of illness like what is this coming for you and for for my own health for your own health yeah yeah so for sure

13:08

back then I I mean my anxiety you know just continued to grow um I was gaining

13:14

weight I um started I I had run been running businesses from home and

13:20

eventually I started to you know not be able to do simple things like call call people you know follow up or right

13:27

everything became just very like anxiety ridden for me just kind of everyday life and even just going anywhere and going

13:33

places with my kids and um yeah I just kind of started to shut down uh about it all yeah yeah I mean experiencing that

13:41

for what 3 four years especially the first the first initial stages of like

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concern and worry and like you just have no idea what's going on and you're looking for this kind of solution do you

13:52

get any point a diagnosis um so I it wasn't until um the

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fall of kindergarten um so at that point he'd actually been suspended from the bus um so they my kids have an hour bus

14:06

right to school so he just couldn't sit in a in a bus seat um still for an hour just couldn't do it so um so he was

14:13

suspended from the bus the principal was probably calling me you know every single day um telling me my son was a

14:18

health or sorry telling me that he was a safety concern because he would just sort of you know throw throw his shoes in there or things like that and they

14:24

would land on people I mean he wasn't intentionally trying to hurt anyone it just he wasn't full aware so um

14:30

eventually I was able to get a referral because you have to have a referral for a pediatrician So eventually was able to get a referral um for a medical doctor

14:38

um to a pediatrician and basically he ran around her office for you know 5 or 10 minutes and she just said yep he's

14:43

got ADHD so never really like 10 minutes yeah and just watched him behave that

14:49

was it basically and really didn't watch him she was more just Disturbed that he was running around her office um yeah

14:55

and then we had also when he was younger um because he would sort of just sometimes not be there and you weren't

15:01

sure if he could hear you or not uh my brother was actually the one that pointed it out and thought maybe he should get his hearing test tested so I

15:07

thought well I'm pretty sure he can hear but I'll I'll just put him on the list so he was actually two years on the list

15:12

with an audiologist um so they kind of just called me up it was happened to be the beginning of kindergarten as well

15:19

and we went to the audiologist and um and they said that his hearing was was perfectly fine but he was definitely

15:25

exhibiting um autistic behaviors and pervasive developmental delay what does

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that mean so um pervasive developmental delay so that was kind of what they put on the paper so I know more about kind

15:36

of autism but just he was delayed overall in everything so he really didn't have you know even fine motor

15:42

skills um you know wasn't able to color or things like that um he could you know barely write or draw um his speech was

15:49

delayed there was just a lot of delays okay um and then how does true hope and

15:58

Empower Plus into this yeah so um when I was digging into so as soon as I kind of

16:04

had these tentative sort of diagnosis again they told me well the only thing you can do is basically put them on

16:10

medication and so I knew that wasn't the answer I knew that my son's body could heal I just I just knew it in my my gut

16:17

right and so I just started researching I was honestly staying up till probably 2: in the morning every night just reading and researching and finding

16:23

anything I could and I started trying different supplements and I spent a lot of money on my sense recovery like thousands and thousands of dollars um

16:30

you know because none of that's covered um no of course not no yeah yeah um and so I just I came across uh true hope and

16:37

I don't even remember if I saw it on Facebook or where I saw it um but I just

16:42

immediately called in um and I ordered it both for myself and my son um so I

16:48

started him um on that and they helped us you know figure out a dosage and then they gave us some other recommendations

16:53

and I started them on omegas and things like that how how old was he this point

16:59

yeah so this was um January of 2018 so this was still in kindergarten so we had

17:04

that diagnosis in the fall there and then I discovered uh true Hope by January okay so you got on the product I

17:10

guess it was sorry I'll say actually December and then by the time I was like okay let's do it and I ordered it for

17:16

January yeah so like early 2018 yeah so a few years ago okay great and then you know yes how does it go you get true

17:23

hope comes to you somehow yeah you go for it you all the products because I'm sure at this point you're willing to try

17:30

anything right there's no answers yeah because there's no answers especially in the conventional medical system where

17:36

you know there is obviously a place for pharmaceutical drugs right there's a

17:41

place for them but you know as a mother and you say know you knew deep down that

17:47

he could heal and you know you could find an answer that wasn't you know

17:53

sedation for the rest of his life well and just seeing that you know where he came from fully functioning and

17:58

developing you know ahead of the curve and then to change drastically so much in the opposite direction I knew that

18:04

okay if that happened we can go back right absolutely um yeah okay so how how

18:11

does the beginning stages of trying Empower is it Empower plus that you that you purchased yeah okay great so tell us about how that went for both and also

18:18

the nasatal as well okay great yeah which was really great all right um yeah so um yeah so we started taking it and

18:26

myself as well um so we started taking it and eventually started to really notice you know that he was more calm he

18:33

was able to have a little bit more kind of self-control he he was able to um and

18:39

this is through help with the school as well just starting to differentiate better between his moods his own moods

18:45

um so knowing he would call them happy Alex mad Alex and sad Alex so then he was able to kind of like recognize those

18:51

parts of himself and when he would slip into one of those kind of States um so he started to yeah just become more

18:57

aware he actually started started um developing more fine motor skills um so that was was really cool um his speech

19:05

started to change and you with the hosing omegas as well with EMP I found was a really great pairing um because

19:10

they really complement each other and he was able to actually within I would say a month or two his speech had completely

19:17

returned yeah so this is this is wonderful so I'm so glad that you're able to find these these the type of

19:24

solutions yeah um I'd love to know about so H how s how old was he at at the

19:31

start of 2018 like four yeah so he was he would have been five okay so he's 5

19:36

years old okay and how did you figure out dosages yeah so I actually spoke

19:43

with true hope um with the company and they um had a a customer or a a

19:48

naturopath or someone that actually helped me uh figure out the dosing at the time yeah that's all micronutrient

19:54

support micronutrient support yeah because it's obviously very important that even with supplement ation if

19:59

you're not taking the the right dosages for the individual then you know it's it's not going to be as effective so

20:06

that's wonderful that you took that yeah so we were both on a more of a therapeutic dose um yeah to be able to

20:12

replenish our bodies yeah all right great well it sounds like was was the transition pretty quick like like did

20:18

you notice things like how quickly did you no a couple of weeks I would says

20:23

actually you know what now that I think of it I don't know why I hadn't thought of this one for a while but um one thing

20:29

I really noticed change was um he would anxiously eat like he would sort of just

20:34

anxiously like stuff his food and overeat because of because of that um

20:40

that changed pretty quickly um he stopped anxiously eating he was able to just calmly eat his food yeah well I

20:46

love what you said about that he was able to become conscious and aware of of kind of like what state he's in yeah I

20:53

know a lot of adults that don't have that ability um so that I mean that's a really really important part of being

21:01

being a a present individual is like knowing being aware of like how you're

21:07

feeling yeah and and you know how that's affecting yourself and the people around you so like that's an incredible yeah

21:13

ability to happen quite quite a quick space in time and then yes so he's able

21:18

to slow down with his eating and came more aware of that as well yeah absolutely and definitely I noticed

21:25

changes in his gut he was able to um you know the throwing up wasn't happening as

21:30

much and that already kind of started getting better you know kind of prior to that um just with the food elimination and things that I had done but

21:36

definitely continue to improve as well with that that's wonderful and then you

21:41

know you continue for I mean so what what type of time frame are we in now so this you started like early 2018 like

21:48

where are we now yeah so um yeah we're kind of leading into the spring and then that's where um it was actually March

21:55

1st where I met my business partner and then we started doing work together with Alex at that point that's so that's

22:01

that's your chiropractic partner right and I know that there's a k chyo link

22:07

yes into your son's um therapy yeah so can you tell us a bit about that I think

22:12

that's really interesting yeah for sure so I I should say I thank the algorithms on the internet for this one because

22:19

once I was doing all this research they would put all these different you know advertisements and podcasts and

22:24

different things in my view so that's how I saw a video called ADHD the perfect story storm and it was by a

22:29

group of chiropractors down in the US and they explained um the importance of

22:34

chiropratic care and making sure that your brain and your body are in that full communication that's what happens with these kids with you know ADHD or

22:41

Autism or things like this is that communication is not happening so they're really not aware of where their body is in space right that proprio

22:49

proprioception um and so it's about restoring that communication between the brain and the body and I watched this

22:54

video and I thought okay this is this is the missing link right because I felt like at that point everything that I was

23:00

doing was like a piece of the pie right everything was a piece of the pie and his recovery and he was getting there things were changing um but I knew that

23:07

this was going to be the next step um so I actually called down to California and told them I'd get on an airplane and do

23:12

whatever I had to do CU at that point I was like just take all my money I don't care like I want my son back um and so

23:19

they were like no no you don't have to get on an airplane and they um actually knew Dr Chantel because she' um done

23:25

some work with them she was part of their um group there so um I gave her a call and I said do you

23:30

do these nervous system scans I want to know what's going on with my son she said yep come on in and that was March 1st of of 2018 and where where was she

23:37

PR where were you and where was she practicing like 15 minutes from my house that's ridiculous 15 that's ridiculous

23:43

imagine if you went to California and found that out on the way home yeah no doubt wild okay and actually side note

23:49

we I had gone to a a chiropractic conference so just a couple years ago and shared my son's story um with this

23:54

same group of chiropractors and um he actually joked that I somehow how and resourceful enough that I called him at

24:00

his house that wasn't even his Clinic wow so that's how resourceful I had to be figuring out my son's Health that's

24:07

diving deep that's great um okay wonderful so you start working with the

24:13

the Cairo work and you obviously got the supplementation at the same time yeah how did the how did the chyo go yeah so

24:20

um I brought him in we you know did a scan so there's a a thermal scan that detects uh interference in the nervous

24:26

system um so there was definitely interference in his upper cervical so kind of neck area so it's kind of like

24:31

kinking the garden hose right so the messages can't get through right because the brain communicates with the body down through the spinal cord out through

24:37

the nerves right and when you sorry when you say interference is this like skeletal interference no so nervous

24:42

system interference yeah so so again with that communication between the brain and the body if there's something

24:48

called a subluxation which is a misalignment in the spine so interferes with that communication so then it

24:54

blocks those messages getting through and that's where again what's going on not internally inside of our body so you

25:00

know our liver needs some work or our foot hurts need to heal our foot but also what's going on around us in our

25:06

space yeah absolutely okay well and H how how was he with the actual treatments himself yeah so he had his

25:12

first adjustment um and then he just like went off the wall so he it was like

25:18

everything I had done was completely erased oh okay yeah in one adjustment

25:24

and it was kind of over right before a long weekend so now we had four days where we were at home and I did not

25:29

leave the house he was off the wall and I thought okay it was obviously really scary but I thought okay this did

25:36

something like how did this have this impact on his body whether it was negative or positive it did something

25:43

yeah so then we came back I was like well now we're in so we came back and we

25:50

started getting adjusted so we came back the next week three times and then we continued from there and every adjustment he got yep he would get a

25:56

little worse that kind of same day but then he would come right back down and get better so he started to be able to

26:02

self-regulate more and more and more and it was pretty amazing and and the school really like really noticed um the

26:08

changes as well yeah so yeah and how how did that go like was were you getting like were you getting like less calls

26:15

yeah less calls I mean I would honestly melt every time my phone would ring at that point um so yeah less calls was

26:22

definitely my goal amazing yeah so Cyro supplementation and you're obviously experiencing some kind kind of I mean

26:29

with any with any therapeutic um work that's significant it's never this like

26:35

upward perfect um recovery there's obviously dips in that and you know

26:41

having such um you know the the practice of Chiropractic work is is just

26:46

wonderful I I love getting I love getting chiro work yeah uh Simon I'll just add to that um when you see the

26:52

depths um every single thing and I would say including EMP every single thing

26:57

that I've done with my son he goes backwards a bit first and then I know it's working cuz now I know that right

27:03

it's scary at first but he would go backwards and then way forwards so one step one step back okay yeah so when

27:10

people are saying oh they're getting worse yeah good so what made you what made you stick like kind of what made

27:16

you stick with it rather than like oh my God this isn't working you know like you must have had a feeling an intuition

27:24

yeah I just I mean I looked at the science that video was very in depth looking at the science the nervous system it made sense to me and I and

27:31

just seeing that it did have that effect on him and because anything I had done in the past he had gone backwards as

27:37

well before he'd gone forwards so I just kind of held on to that yeah just amazing wow and then there must be a

27:45

point like when when was the kind of like first time where you maybe thought or knew that you had

27:51

just had your son back yeah oh this is kind of emotional for me I think it was

27:56

um I think it was June that year we went to um a indoor playground and my son was

28:03

playing which normally would have been kind of a stressful event because I wouldn't know he would get in scuffles with kids and parents would be talking

28:09

to me but he was just playing on the glider with this little girl this exact same size as him and they were just

28:16

having a conversation and he was asking her about you know what her name is and you know what grade she's in and asking

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her just all about herself and and just having a friend developing a friendship with her and I never seen him do that so

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that was huge for me that's incredible yeah yeah what a wonderful moment thank you for sharing that um you also

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mentioned I in in your notes before we before we uh decided to do this podcast

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about um a parent teacher conference as well yeah because they were probably very different before and then after

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yeah very much so so in kindergarten we had a parent teacher interview that was

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um his whole team his team of people of support people basically um figuring out

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how we were going to support him going forward into his school years right not really thinking the future was looking

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that great um and then fast forward to grade one that first parent teacher interview was five minutes with only the

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with only the teacher and and she just she had no concerns and obviously like there was still you know catchup and

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things he had to do but just the ground that he' already covered was so huge and then I also received a letter from the

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school saying um yeah that he was no longer on the list for speech therapy

29:29

yeah that's just amazing yeah I mean as a parent that just must be just the most

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yeah I keep that letter I've kept all the everything yeah I keep it yeah that's wonderful

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um tell us a little bit about you and EMP yeah because you're going through

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one of the most wildest possible stressful things you could ever experience I think as as a parent yeah

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um you know watching watching your son kind of I don't know fade away many many aspects but

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then you this I can't believe that from January 2018 to June it's pretty

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unbelievable it's six months that's insane yeah and that's obviously the power of not only the right nutrition

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and micronutrients but having uh that chiropractic work to actually deliver those things to work and function it's

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just mind-blowing and you know I I must have listened to a couple of hundred stories when it comes to M Power Plus

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yeah and it it blows my mind every single time um so why don't you tell us a little about about you personally with

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Empower plus yeah um so kind of where my anxiety was I mean back when he was

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little I kind of had a bubble right so I could kind of control my environment a little bit before he went to school

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right so then it wasn't quite as bad back then because I could basically we didn't go places we just stayed home and

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I kind of had my kind of control over the environment um but then as he went to school obviously things got worse um

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so I eventually um kind of back then I eventually did go on um some medication which now I I know a lot different but

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it it was a really great part of my journey because I really learned what it was like to go through being on one of those medications so then it's able it's

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allowed me to help other people more um but yes I was on an SSRI medication um

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and at first I felt better um but then I started to get worse again way worse and I started to have Suicidal Thoughts um

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many many many times a day and then I had started my nutrition course and I learned um through one of the courses

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that the medication that's one of the blackbox warnings which they don't tell you about is a suicidal thought so this

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is kind of that timing with true hope where I so I started taking it um and I

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just actually reduced my medication even more than they you know had recommended but I you know cut it in half

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immediately those thoughts stopped um and I started supporting my body with the EMP and then as I and then the

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thought started to creep back in cut the medication right out and then continued on the EMP and then I would say my whole

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kind of therapeutic uh range was about 8 months where I no longer even I mean I

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kept taking it as a maintenance but I did not need a therapeutic dose anymore and I'd had anxiety really actually kind

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of my whole life like it wasn't a new thing to me and so to be at the point where I that wasn't an issue anymore at

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all was pretty huge for me cuz that's always been kind of just on you know um

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you know in my in my life right you're like a looking like a Bas layer feeling yeah yeah yeah and how is a noal fit

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into that as well oh yes okay so what I love about a nosl is it's kind of like

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your your quick fix in the day I guess so um I would par and and by recommendation of true hope they

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recommended that I pair the nsol with the phospha choline um that I had purchased as well and so when I take

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those um together and you can do this with the nosto by itself too um it really just gives you a mental and a

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physical calming feeling so uh my son actually back then he started playing uh hockey and so I would give him that

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combination so that he could go to the dressing room and get dressed not run around the rink and then for me it would

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be you know I'd probably be taking it so that I could go do that right so it would kind of just give you that really

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kind of sense of Peace especially when you're leading up to something that you know is you know causes you more anxiety

33:23

or things like that or can help you sleep and yeah that's great I think you should be so incredibly proud of

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yourself for the the wonderful things that you've done for your family CU a

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lot of people would have given up yeah they would have just succumbed to

33:41

Conventional practices um but and not F so you should

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be really really proud of yourself it's really really inspiring to hear thank you Simon um why don't you tell us a

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little you would you I mean would you recommend Empower plus to anybody any chance absolutely so um when I was

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running my nutrition business from home I would you know order maybe you know 6 to 12 at a time and and that's just

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really grown over the years um you know I think we order about 60 at a time now we have many many many of our patients

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take it um it's really a staple in our Clinic um I recommend it to so many

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people and it helps with so many things and usually you start to see changes within the first couple of weeks so I just I I like using it because I know I

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can rely on it how um do you ever use your your story or your experience with

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Empower plus to kind of convince people cuz some people need convincing that a supplement can be so powerful yeah yeah

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my story and now I have many many many patient testimonials as well yeah yeah that's strong that's wonderful um how

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can people connect with you at the clinic yeah so um our Clinic name as I

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mentioned before is Inner Strength Family Chiropractic and Wellness um so they can either um contact you know

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myself through email or directly through the clinic so um my emails Michelle spray like a spray bottle at

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live.ca um and the the clinic is Inner Strength familyy gmail.com so they can

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just shoot us an email um we also have a Facebook page which we haven't maybe been you know on as much as as we should

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but also um I have a Facebook page as well just Michelle spray holistic nutritionist wonderful um and just to

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finish up um how has I'm I I don't know how if you can sum this up in a few

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sentences but like what's been the impact of true hope and Empower on you your

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family yeah I mean it's just been a huge part of of all of our healing right and

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it's something that we'll always take it's it's actually right on my Island so we don't we don't even put it away in the cupboard it just stays there

35:44

wonderful and I think it's important to note that you know there's no one fixel for everything because you tried a lot of different things I did and there were

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a lot of things are complimenting each other so yeah it's not like you're going to take this one thing what I find that

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what I hear from a lot of people is this Empower plus gives people the ability to do the other things that can make them

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start to feel good absolutely and um that's a really strong thing because you know as your son was able to like start

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to become conscious and aware it's almost like a veil lifts and you see the world in a very very different way yeah

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and you know our body is a our body is designed to make us feel awesome and do these wonderful things so yeah our

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bodies are amazing they're designed to heal right we just need to give it what it needs yeah yeah and I just kind of

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adding to that um you know people ask me what's the one if you could say one thing that you did and I said the one

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thing I did was never stop and never give up right yeah and that's an incredib that's a really important point

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because there is a very very different energetic frequency between perseverance

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and you know knowing that you can you can you can heal and you can do something and staying on that path of

36:52

let's call that positivity and then you've got an other completely different set of energetic frequencies of of anger

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and frustration and grief and hate and rage you know these things carry them carry with them a very very different

37:06

energy and yeah if you're able to kind of stay in that positive mode good things will certainly come to you I'm

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completely convinced of that yes beautiful well thank you so much for joining us today Michelle really

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appreciate it yeah thank you so much Simon this was fantastic yeah I'm really excited to get this out there and um

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it's such a beautiful story and yeah I really appreciate you sharing everything with us um for more information on

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anything that we've spoken about in this episode you can see the show notes if you want to get connected with Michelle don't forget to subscribe if you haven't

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um thank you so much for listening everybody this is true Hope cast the official podcast of true hope Canada we'll see you next week

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