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Carol welcome to the show thank you so much for joining us how are you today I am very well this is actually my first

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interview I didn't flake on I us I usually just say I'll show up and then I

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don't well you're here that's wonderful I appreciate that I I was doing a live

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stream and I committed to every one of my subscribers that I would do this interview so I would have too many

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people upset with me if I didn't show up wonderful well we're super happy that you showed up and that's it's really I

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totally understand how these type of things can be difficult to do but yes

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you know I think with the content and the things that we're going to talk about today you're going to be serving yourself and serving a lot of other people in a very powerful way so I agree

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fabulous great well let's jump in you wrote a book called the son I almost

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gave away incred have it here yeah an incredible title you tell us there it is

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look at that can you tell us about it well so my son he's 20 he just turned

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20 actually um this year but when he was born he had a brain

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injury that led to some really severe behavioral problems and so in the book I

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kind of talk about what the first seven years of his life looked like so he was on the autism spectrum he would have

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been about a a Dy level three he was verbal but he was also what you would

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cons uh consider schizophrenic so he was extremely violent and dangerous so we had to

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pretty much do like 4our rotations holding him day and night you couldn't

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leave him unattended ever and at the point when he was about seven years old

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I had a newborn baby that I was also trying to care for which makes it kind

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of impossible if you're holding a newborn and you're trying to nurse and care for this newborn if you're trying to do a rotation with a seven-year-old

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boy that is trying to kind of assault everyone he comes in contact with it

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came to the point where we were looking at having to institutionalize him just to keep the rest of the family

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safe and at this time I was in naturopathy myself and I knew a lot

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about orth orth molecular medicine and I knew a lot about brain injuries and all of that kind of thing but I always was

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under the understanding that if they had a hypoxic brain injury which was the type of brain injury he had that there

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wasn't a lot you could do about it and then I started thinking about everything

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that I had been learning about the way that our brains are designed and I started questioning that belief that he

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would be like this forever and I really just prayed and that was a really big

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part of this and I started searching my soul and my knowledge base for if there

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could be possibly a solution for you know his behaviors and the the direction

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his life was going if there would be any way to reverse this and I had learned about true hope which I actually have it

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right here the one that I take um I had learned about true Hope just when I was

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in practice and I had received a lot of emails from different people that had been having success stories with it the

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um Empower plus formula and what I decided to do instead

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of actually institutionalizing him was to

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give it kind of like a really solid try of using orthomolecular medicine

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cognitive therapy and a whole protocol that I created for to see if we could at

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least get the behaviors to be manageable that was my goal just make it so we

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don't have to give him over to the state kind of thing how old um how old is he

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at this time when you so he was seven okay yeah he was seven when I put

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together the protocol and I put him on everything and I did everything with him

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pretty much overnight so I used the Empower plus the maximum dose you could

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use um and a bunch of other things that I talk about in the book and I would say

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within six weeks Not only was he a different child his physical appearance

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changed um because part of the thing is when you have a really severe brain injury a lot of the muscles in your face

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get very tight I don't know if you've seen a person that has a really um serious uh disability but you can tell

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certain features of their face are tight they hold their jaw structure differently his entire facial structure

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changed as his brain healed because certain muscles that were meant to be loose became loose so on and so forth

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within about six weeks he was physically different and he was a different person but with one within a year he was

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completely reversed all of his symptoms that's that's remarkable so you were

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kind of going through you know what kind of LED you on this journey to begin with was you know you were stepping in and

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kind of researching the conventional model and and in so many different conditions there is this there's no

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answer in any book when it comes to Conventional medicine so yeah you've

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obviously you know looked at what's happening within your family emotionally

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and decided that there has to be there has to be a way there has to be an

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alternative that that you're not finding and it's it's an incredible journey that you that you've kind of tried these

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different things and it's important to note that it's not just EMP Power Plus that you used you know you were using types of therapies and you were using um

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orthomolecular um practices as well so it was a you know a whole holistic

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approach to helping helping your son right everything that you could think of

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from the environment and the household to we switched this whole diet over to not be including you know all the

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chemicals and the things that you have in processed food so everything that I knew of that you could do to help a

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person heal at every level we did that all at once but I I know for sure that

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the Empower plus was the really big thing because of how many people that I have worked with and known personally

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that that's the only thing that they did and their lives completely transformed yeah that's just that's just

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incredible I think that you know I've seen I've seen so many um people reverse

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so many different things taking these products and so many different different um pathologies that people have had for

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many many years and have had no answer from the conventional model and they tried this broad stretch in micronutrient and and incredible things

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have happened so um you said within six weeks you really started to notice some

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some big kind of changes with your son huge changes yeah huge can you tell us a

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little bit more about that like what what what else did the family notice I'll tell you the the most touching

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story of this is the most memorable for our whole family because we had a zero

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contact zero communication rule with him because of how violent and dangerous he was so the older children weren't

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allowed to interact with him because it would egg him into violence and he would

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come at them with weapons and all kinds of things so it was very dangerous for them so unless we had given consent for

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them to engage with him they really had to leave him alone and this one particular ular day

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so we're talking six weeks into his treatment roughly he asked if he could

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play tackle football with my older son and a bunch

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of his friends in the field across from our house and I mean this is a child who six

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weeks ago wasn't allowed to be looked at or spoken to because it was so dangerous to interact with him and we let him go

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into the field and play tackle football with a bunch of boys his age and it went

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beautifully he ended up taking a face dive a few times but you know it was

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absolutely I was watching him out the window with his dad and we were just in shock that he would take a face plant

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into the ice and he wouldn't even hurt anyone if you would have looked at him

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the wrong way six weeks before that you would be probably going to the the hospital or something like that so it

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was just that miraculous how much of a difference it made and how fast it changed his chemistry in his brain

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incredible as parents watching something like that like how how how are you

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failing oh I was in shock I was absolutely in shock I never thought that

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I would see the day when he would be allowed to play with another child not to mention actually get physically hurt

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in the process of this play and not lash out an aggression I mean that that never

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even was in my wildest dreams of possibility for him so it yeah that's

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that's remarkable and just having the ability to to go outside and play with your pear such an important

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developmental stage and yeah that's such a remarkable thing to witness in such a quick period of time after trying

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something really new right away especially because six weeks before this

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he was still in 4-Hour rotations on our lap as a seven-year-old boy like can you

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imagine you know if you have a one or two yearold and you put them on your lap for a time out that doesn't feel too

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weird you know you're just hey we're going to sit here and have a moment you know he was seven years old and that was

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his life up until that point because it just that was the only way to keep him

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safe how was the um how was this transformation with your with your your

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other children have so how many children have you got at this time when he's seven and he's starting to make these changes okay so we

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had the older two and a newborn so there was four in total at that time and how

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were the I suppose older kids experience with with these changes well the I would

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say my oldest son Taylor was the most profound because Taylor always had so much patience with him but he also was

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the one on the receiving end of a lot of uh Raphael's abuse and so for Taylor it was pretty amazing

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because now he was able to play with his brother you know so that was incredible they actually got to do things together

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and he didn't have to worry about that he's going to come at them with a knife or a shovel or you know something crazy

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he got to just have a brother it was incredible yeah I'm sure everyone everyone in the house was able to relax

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a little bit more and just you know rather than being on edge and on guard start to enjoy the the completely

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different family Dynamic it was insane because our our whole household operated

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like this military style every moment we were in war it was a battle Zone we were

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literally preventing fires and putting out fires that was what our daily existence was about was just navigating

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all of the landmines and within six weeks that was complete history and then

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you said and then you said after a year

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his his um his personality and his person was completely turned around it

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really was I mean there was very little his intelligence he has a genius level

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IQ as well so what comes with that didn't go away so he still was

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absolutely brilliant and remarkable but the things that made it impossible for

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him to have relationships and navigate life those symptoms were completely gone

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he was able to interact with his peers have a normal life have healthy you a

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ton of selfcontrol I couldn't believe that he went from being this child that if you touched his paper airplane he he

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would be looking for a weapon he could hurt you with to a year later he had

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more self-control than any of my other children so it was pretty incredible and he of course at the time was the only

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one that was on the true hope supplements and I'm sure if you didn't believe in Miracles before that then now

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you do definitely do absolutely yeah do you did you notice um anything if you

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were like if you missed a day or if you miss if you ran out of ran out of the product did you notice anything like

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even in the last you know I know 13 years have you noticed anything if the um protocol was to change okay so

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Raphael he didn't actually stay on it past that first year so he had his

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transformation and then there was a whole bunch of things that we went through as a family that we ended up not being able to

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afford to continue taking that or anything else at the time but I can tell

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you that I was in a relationship recently with someone else who had been

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taking the true hope supplement and I'm not sure if you've heard of the uh disorder um did which is dissociative

13:54

identity disorder used to be known as a multiple personality disorder okay um

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this individual I was in a relationship with him for about two years and when we first started

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interacting he had very very very severe paranoia and all different kinds of

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almost like schizophrenic type of symptoms and I put him on this and every

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time that he tried to get off of it his complete personality would go back to

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how it was previously and one of the reasons we've actually recently parted ways but so

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much of it had to do with the fact that he wasn't staying on the supplement and

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I couldn't kind of be responsible for that anymore but for him it was as an

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adult he needed to stay on it to stay stable and I've known a lot of other

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adults as well that just even missing a week can pretty

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much put them back to where they were before and it really depends on how much

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their neurology and that really relies on it um for me I'm pretty stable so I

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notice that if I go periods of time where I'm not having it it's not just going to be an instant drop off where

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I'm not doing very well where I've known other people where boy if they stop taking it for a week they're really in

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serious trouble yeah absolutely and obviously every condition and every issue every person is going to be

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different in regards to their ability to uptake these nutrients how they ex how

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how frequently they need to have them so absolutely every everybody's different um yeah what had you you mentioned a

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couple of things but can you tell us a little bit more about what you had tried before and power plus with with your son

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when I hadn't tried anything to be honest with you because I was so programmed to believe what I had been

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taught and that is with a the type of brain injur he had which was hypoxic

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brain injury that the brain damage was permanent and so that all of his

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symptoms they weren't just you know your classic autism symptoms in that that they came from a brain injury and that's

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why he ended up that way so I really hadn't tried anything else until this

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because I didn't think that there was anything that could be done I was always told that it's just keep them safe

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navigate each day one day at a time and tell tell you can't do it anymore kind of thing

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sure remarkable yeah I think um I've I've watched quite a few of your YouTube

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videos on your on your YouTube channel um and I it's really wonderful as well we'll make sure that it gets Linked In

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It's called um mindful Divergence and you say some really amazing things about true hope Canada in some of your V some

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of your videos I do yeah about the business and the struggles that um we've

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had with health Canada in the past and to qu I know yeah and to quote one of your videos um you you said I owe my

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son's life to True hope and for me this it's not the first time I've heard this from from somebody um I've heard stories

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like this in in the past it shows at events from people who communicate with us um through through Facebook Etc you

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know and I've seen the science I've used the products myself and I know it works and there are so many people um who are

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just not aware of your story and this you know incredible history of this company and I think more and more people

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should should know about it do you have anything to to tell people who may be on the fence about you know engaging with

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true hope and trying Empower Plus for anything from you know we could call it maybe mild stress on one side and then

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you know more significant neurological um conditions on the other side because I've seen people benefit all across that

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Spectrum what would you say to people who are maybe hesitant who are heavily relied maybe on conventional means but

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there will come a point from all all of those people where they will recognize that maybe that those

18:02

Pharmaceuticals are not working for them in the long term and then they're going to look for an alternative route what

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would you say to those people okay so I kind of have a bit of a loaded answer to that question that's good and that is

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true hope has the potential for completely transforming your life

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however it has to be the right formula and I want to explain something about that so for myself

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this one is the methylated formula that I take um the

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methylated uh Advanced and the reason that I take the methylated one is

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because I have the MTHFR defect which a lot of people on the autism spectrum

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have quite a few individuals with bipolar things like that so there's two different formulas that they have for

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the um Empower plus and you have to be on the right one and this is I do have

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to mention this because it's so important that if an individual that has the MTHFR defect takes the other formula

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not the methylated one they will become a folic acid toxic which is very very

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they'll go downhill instead of improving and so one of the things that

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I recommend for people that are on the autism spectrum or they have any type of psychiatric diagnosis like bipolar is to

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find out if you have that defect or not I found out for myself just through um

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23 and me I think it's like $200 or something and you can get your genome done and you'll find out if you have the

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defect and if you do you take the methylated one and if you don't then you just take the regular Advanced formula

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and it is such an important thing to know about because I've known people that have become folic acid toxic that

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have had the Mt HFR defect and took the wrong one and so we don't um deal with

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folic acid very well when we have that defect we have to have the methylated one and so thank goodness you guys have

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that because you haven't a true hope hasn't always had the methylated formula

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and so it's really amazing that you guys even offer that so it just shows how much you guys are keeping up with the

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science of every time we learn something about what our brain needs and I go back

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to your guys's website you you're already on top of it so it was incredible when I found out you guys had

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that so that's the one that I take for myself wonderful yeah it's so so

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important that we're we're keeping up with exactly as you say the the research and the science and making sure that our

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manufacturing process and the formulations that we're putting out is able to help um as many people as

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possible and you are spot on in regards to people it's a really important thing

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to be taking responsibility over your own Healthcare and doing something like 23 me doing like a genome sequence to

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find out you know what what what genes you do do and don't have is important

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for um so many different things but yeah the ones you mentioned super valid and and taking that step toward towards your

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own as assured Healthcare is very important and we have our micronutrient support team which you can always

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contact anybody can contact whether they're taking um whether they're brand new and they're already taking some

21:24

Pharmaceuticals and they're interested to figure out what what they can and can't take and how they can work with

21:31

their doctor and those drugs to to ultimately try try and come off them and

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and be uh non-dependent on these drugs but yeah it's really important that you don't just stop what you're doing and

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you know and jumping into these you know it's you know the biochemical balances of of the body and the brain are very

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very complex and work health professionals is is very important because you say taking the wrong

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products for the wrong person can um Can can set you back rather than set you forward yeah you need to understand what

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it is that your body is telling you and I also like the fact that you guys do have that toll-free phone number so for

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people that are taking you know mood altering drugs and they're just not able to handle that anymore and they're

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thinking okay I've got to get off this stuff I have to figure out another solution they're not just kind of thrown off the dend saying here buy our

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supplement good luck you know you actually have a process of being engaged

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and involved with people directly and monitoring their progress and really assisting them and like you

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said between you know true hope and their family physician coming up with a plan to be able to do it all safely

22:42

monitoring that process because it is a lengthy process so many people think they can just oh I'm just going to stop

22:48

taking my medication and switch to True hope that can be disastrous I mean there

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is a right and safe way to do it and I love the fact that you really um sit

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beside this individual through the whole process and um monitor that it's being

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done safely and there's not too many supplements in the world that offer something like that it comes with some

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risks to do that so it's pretty incredible that you guys do that yeah I've been working with a company for

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about three years and it's so um it's so obvious and apparent that this company

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is about helping people and it's not about just selling supplements and making money and the contion support and

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toll-free number is just massive examples of that and how you know

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whenever you are making any type of significant change in your life especially when it comes to um getting

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your health um in shape you shouldn't be going at that alone and having support

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system whether that is your friends family and health professionals it's so important that you you ask for that help

23:53

one and two you know again you're taking your own health care into your own hands and educating yourself and making sure

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that you're um serving your body in the in the best way possible definitely especially when the individual is

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weaning off of any type of mood altering drug at all that is a very dangerous

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period of time for them when a lot of things can go very south and so the fact

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that the company is both wanting to be involved but like you said engaging with

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the family and the support network during that time is so critical because

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of the fact that their brain is going to be changing so rapidly that this is a very sensitive

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time and I don't think enough people pay attention to the period of time people

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focus on getting off those drugs too much and they don't focus enough on how

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to do it slowly and safely um that there's not huge

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repercussions for it and I think at a lot more Focus needs to be put on to that if it is going to happen there is a

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very safe way to do it but it's not overnight you know and I don't think that's spoken uh enough about no your

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spot on that transition is so important and I think probably a a big hurdle for

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that is perhaps the medical model the conventional medical model where it's probably not quite understanding the

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Alternatives and yeah the kind of desperation some people have because some side effects can be worse than oh I

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know so absolutely it's definitely got a little bit to do with the fact that it's

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not spoken spoken about and that transition from getting people off medications to being drug-free is

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probably not taught in medical schools because it's kind of all about like you know symptoms diagnosis drugs and then

25:47

not actually reversing it the other way around which is an interesting concept I know and the thing is they're not taught

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about getting them off because there was no intention to ever get them off once they go on yeah that's a very very good

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point it's a good point and we could we could do a whole show on that that's for sure um do you have any success stories

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outside of your home I know you mentioned um an ex partner of yours but I'm sure like considering your you know

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your YouTube following and the wonderful work that you do and I'm sure that you've been talking about Empower plus

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every day since um since the uh the tackle football oh jeez football time

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you know I don't have any specific ones because there's so many there's just so

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many everyone that I have known that has ever tried it and stuck to it has had some type of transformational experience

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the unfortunate thing that I find is that it's not covered by health care and

26:45

so for the people who need it most it would be lovely if we could see something come into the picture one day

26:52

where it's just kind of like a prescription you know if your doctor says you need it you get it in Canada

26:58

and there's no there's no issue when money gets involved and anytime you have

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a supplement where the individual has to be able to cough up those costs

27:09

themselves we run into a bit of a problem because a lot of the times the people who need it most they don't have

27:16

access to it and so that is a really unfortunate thing so it would be awesome if we could see government make some

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change on that but considering the side of the fence they sit on I'm thinking chances of that happening time too soon

27:29

or not yeah that would be that would be miraculous and I think if you were if you in government and you looking at the long-term costs of Health Care actually

27:37

bringing in something like that in the long term would do significant wonder it would be amazing it would be amazing it

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would be wonderful um that's cool yeah this um would you would you recommend is

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there a specific type of person do you think that kind of comes to mind that that could try and power plus boy the most profound changes I

27:58

have seen has been actually with the people who have the most severe issues going on the ones that are

28:05

at the point where they don't want to live anymore they've tried everything literally every cocktail

28:13

combination they're maxed out on their doses of everything you know psychiatrists are saying you know

28:18

there's really nothing else we can do for you this to me for those individuals is

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a shoe in I'm certain it would make miraculous change and pretty quickly um

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so for those people it's a no-brainer to me to try this then there's everyone in

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between so for the individuals that are on the autism spectrum like myself um

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finding out if you have the MTHFR defect and if you do getting on the methylated form and if you don't getting on just

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the B the basic um Advanced formula for autism it's huge huge huge I re

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recommend it for everybody on the autism spectrum for depression for bipolar

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schizophrenia I mean geez I've just seen so many transformational experiences across the board with mental health it's

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to me orthomolecular Psychiatry which is really what this is

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is it should be the first line of defense not the last you know but

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unfortunately that's not the way that this world is designed at the moment

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oh for for everybody really that is not doing well mentally or emotionally I

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would say try it for a minimum of six weeks at the dosage that would be recommended through working with

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somebody at true hope at least for six weeks every day consistently before

29:47

deciding if it's for you or not yeah I've um I mean I don't have a a

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specific diagnosis but I you know I I experience stress is just just like everybody else so I I take it when I

30:00

know things are getting stressful U the big example would be like big family holidays where it's going to be like go

30:06

go go and lots of kind of lots of stuff happening or if I know I've got a busy work week and I know if I miss if I miss

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a day during that period of time I will get agitated I will get frustrated a lot easier than I usually would so I noticed

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that on a on a quite subtle level I think a big part of taking something like this is being aware of how you

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feeling and before beforehand and afterwards so having a kind of really conscious awareness of your mind and

30:31

your body that's a really big important part especially if you were going to do something like this for like six weeks to really have a commitment to it oh yes

30:38

yeah and then as I said again before like the spectrum of people who are experiencing just like you know stress

30:44

and then all the all the way at the other end where we have you know much more significant neurological disorders

30:49

it can do so it can just do absolute wonders and um getting that dosage is is very very important and again we have

30:56

micronutrient support teams and support that can can help people along the way

31:02

um Carol your story like it's quite remarkable it's actually a miracle and I was super lucky to come across your um

31:08

YouTube channel and enjoy a bunch of your videos um I really appreciate the work that you do there and I think

31:14

everyone should know about this particular story because if this product which is incredibly well researched you

31:19

can go on to trueu hopec canada.com and under the research and science section you can see it done by um done by

31:26

disorder whether it's ADHD or bipolar or schizophrenia and there are specific um peer-reviewed studies each one of those

31:33

disorders so if you're if you're in the if you're in the if you're quite sciency and you like to check that out I think it's important that you do that because

31:40

if you're um recommended a supplement and they don't have their science and research on their front page of their

31:46

website then it's probably not a product that's had a lot of backing behind it so that's that's why we're very very

31:52

different here at true hope but if this very well researched product can help your son it can so much so much for so

31:59

many different people how how can we help you spread your message oh boy that is a good question I

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think the big thing is I try to do as much education as I can through my mindful Divergence YouTube channel so

32:14

just you know directing people over there I actually have to finish doing my second draft of this book because I I

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had taken a year off to write it and then after it got completed and loaded

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on Amazon I never went back to do my final edits but it is on Amazon if you still if you want to look at it with a

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few grammar errors and that kind of thing in there but um I wanted to make one other point really quickly and when

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you would ask me about who I recommend this for I also want to recommend it for anyone that has a brain

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injury so we're talking about you've been in a car accident um your child was

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born with a hypoxic brain injury at a you like if they had a placental abruption at Birth or something like

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that brain injuries of any kind or um spinal cord injuries I see a lot of

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positive results because of the way that these nutrients were designed to repair um the genetic material that's

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been damaged I don't want to just focus too much on Psychiatry with this because

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there's the actual physical physiological brain injuries itself that

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it can do miraculous things for so I wanted to point that out too that if

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you've been in a car accident or sporting you have a sporting injury um postconcussion syndrome all of that kind

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of thing I would try it for those things as well you would have to probably go a little longer than that six week trial

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to see if it's working but I definitely recommend it for actual physical brain

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injuries too yeah that's a really really important point and in the next couple of months we're going to be doing an

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episode with Morris lwit who's an ex-professional Canadian hockey player

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and his whole story his whole whole journey is about head injury and concussion and how when he retired he he

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had these deep dark depressive moments and it seemed to take over his life and he took these products and he describes

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it and it's not the first time I've heard it described like this but this fog gets lifted yep and it gives people this ability to start thinking and

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feeling and behaving a little bit differently than they did with this cloud of fog over them defitely yeah I

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really appreciate you bringing up the point of traumatic injury because it's a something that you know a lot of people

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experience but you know we have been under the idea that the brain is kind of

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stuck and it doesn't change but we obious know with like neuroplasticity and the way that our brain is just and

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our body in general is just like this phenomenal phenomenal bio computer that given it's miraculous it's it's

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incredible and there's so many examples of people recovering from things that you know were said to just not be

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possible and um that's the wonderful one wonderful blend between science and

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mysticism which you know probably keeps a lot of people still you know um doing experiments and you know pushing the

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research even further um can you tell us a little bit more just to finish up a few I know you've got some other

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projects I know you have more than your YouTube channel so can you tell us a little bit more about the other projects you've got going on okay so the two very

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big ones that are going to be like many years long projects is one is I'm in the

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process of actually creating a global diagnostic tool that individuals can go

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through for autism independently because to get an Autism diagnosis let's say in Canada or in the

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US you're looking at between two to $5,000 to go through the diagnostic

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processes if as as an adult and so what I'm trying to do is simplify this so

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that way they can go through a criteria off my website a massive questionnaire

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that has been created by hundreds of autistic globally the only autistic

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people are involved in the creation of this diagnostic criteria and you can print it out and take it into your

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family doctor for a referral to a psychologist and what we're hoping to do is have the criteria recognized within

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the field of Psychiatry and the DSM and all of that so they can say hey okay we can skip a lot of the steps that we

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would have to put this person through because this is a recognized criteria and hopefully save them some money and a

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lot of time to get to their diagnosis so that's the first thing we're working on

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we have hundreds of autistic people across the world working on creating this uh questionnaire right now so it's

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going to be a very long process we have people in beta testing for that at the moment so that's a big one um and if

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anybody watching this would like to participate in the creation of it if you believe you're Autistic or you have a

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diagnosis you can um contact me I'm guessing you'll probably have my email address somewhere yeah I'll put

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everything in the show notes they can contact me for that the other thing is we're in the process of creating a documentary called autism undiscovered

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and it's about what happens what the consequences are for autistic people that go through their whole lives not

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having been diagnosed or having been misdiagnosed with other psychiatric ailments like bipolar or ADHD you know

37:22

usually heavily medicated when the truth of the matter is they're on the Spectrum and that they're just wired a little bit

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differently and so telling the stories and letting individuals that kind of fell through the cracks have a platform

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to share their story so we're working on a documentary for that as well so that's a many yearlong project too that's

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wonderful so a documentary coming out and I really love the um the alternative

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diagnostic tool that's actually being created by individuals that experience um experience autism I think that is

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incredibly powerful incredibly unique in regards to how um how these things are

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being diagnosed because yeah they're obviously created by not by people who don't have autism which is kind of

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interesting but it's understandable at the same time yeah absolutely I mean they have to they have they certainly

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have to do something and and I hope that what what you create is able to go mainstream and really help a lot of

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people who do go undiagnosed and who do who live 10 20 30 years not knowing why

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they experience some of the things that they experience I think we're doing people a big disservice if they are living a big part of their lives

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undiagnosed or incorrectly diagnosed yeah it's quite tragic where it lands them it's it's a it's a scary thing it's

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a scary thing to be part of the community that I'm in when you see just how many lives are lost because they

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don't know where they belong so it's it definitely drives me to do something

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yeah and having and being part of a community and having a tribe is one one

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of the main things that makes us human and to not have that to not have that can feel incredibly scary as you say and

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and quite inhumane it very much yeah well Carol thank you so much for joining

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us today I really appreciate you taking the time I learn a heck of a lot and I'd love to get you back on to talk um about

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some of the the other projects that you're doing and and dive a bit deeper into some of the things we're talking about today um how can people connect

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with you and get hold of you so I would say the best way to connect with me is probably going to be through my YouTube

39:34

channel through mindful Divergence can also email me at Hope at the sun I

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almost gave away abbreviated so TS I whatever the rest is I forget you'll

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have it linked I'll I'll put it in print on on the show notes no problem yeah just email is best for me or Messenger

39:54

as well through mindful Divergence and people can pick the hook up on Amazon right absolutely I'm pretty sure it's on

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amazon.com I don't know if it's still on amazon.ca awesome and if there are a few spelling mistakes let's not worry about

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that ah there's a couple yeah there's a couple that's fine well Carol thank you so much again and thank you everybody

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for listening this is true Hope cast the official podcast of true hope Canada thank you so much we'll see you next

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week goodbye