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welcome to the true Hope cast podcast where we take a deep dive into mental Health's many physiological and

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information about us you can visit truehopecanada.com today on the podcast I welcome Dr Annie White NOW Dr White is

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the author of the calm code six weeks to a Karma happy at you she developed a

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step-by-step method to rewire your mind to be calm happy and balanced based on

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the science of neuroplasticity today we're going to be discussing the calm code enjoy the show

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all right Annie hi welcome to the show Welcome to True hope class thank you so much for taking the time to be with me

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and be with us today how are you what is going well I am great thank you for having me I'm

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honored to be here I love what you're doing with your show and the awareness

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about mental health and I'm just excited to talk to you beautiful well why don't you just give

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us a little bit of an introduction and let us know who it is that you are and what it is that you do sure

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I'll I'll shorten it for today's um conversation but I am a doctor of

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Eastern medicine and I just wrote a book called The Calm code which is a powerful

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step-by-step method to rewire the mind to be calm happy and balanced based on

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the science of neuroplasticity in just six weeks okay that's pretty cool what yeah why

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write the book do you okay so I'm going to take you into a story of why I really wrote the

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book and then I can tell you its origination Point what do you think about that sounds good all right so

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um it was a few years ago four or five and I was um lying on the living room floor I was

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sobbing and hyperventilating and desperate because my husband had just

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left me and he left me because I wasn't myself I

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was like flying off the handle for stupid things like not putting the dishes in the dishwasher and I was

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irritable all the time I was anxious I was stressed I had been through a really really stressful couple of years and it

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just basically wired my mind to be just highly stressed anxious irritable and

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even I got into some depression with it and he said to me Annie I love you but

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you're miserable and I'm making you more miserable and I don't feel like this is

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working and I I need to go and in that moment I thought okay I have

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two choices I either fix this or my heart walks away so the crazy part

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about this Simon is that I had developed the tools that I use

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and used on myself for my patients I've been working on it for 10 years and

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it's embarrassing to say that although I built those tools I still got to that

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horrible point but I think part of it was because I was supposed to be the one who knew about all this stuff you know

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I'm the supposed to be one who doesn't need these things and it took my maybe

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my ego but maybe I'm a little bit stubborn like a mule and it took a minute to admit that okay shoot I

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actually need I actually need these tools and so I dedicated myself to them

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and after two weeks I felt a little better but not a whole lot better after

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a month I felt a lot better after three months I was I was back in action and I

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was feeling better than I had and I was surprised I wasn't surprised that they worked because my patients had

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told me that for a long time but I was beyond happy that they work because it saved my marriage and

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once I learned how well they worked I dedicated my life to writing this book and getting it out to the people who

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need it so you must have come to a there must have been a transitional period of of

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over those 10 years that you where you kind of got to that point where you know

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your husband tells you that you're that you're unhappy uh so like and you've obviously got

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you've learned the you know you've done you've done your training you've done your education you've got all these tools to help support other people

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but you know how does it how did how do we get because it happens to so many people right like they're very like very

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well skilled in let's just say like personal development but then they let their own personal development slip

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because they're trying to learn to help other people and that's kind of like where their energy goes and sure there's

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a bit of ego in there for probably most practitioners but how why do you think

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it took that pla that serious serious situation like over 10 years and then boom like that that big thing happens of

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your partner like there's got to be like a a position or a transitional period where you thought

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that things were getting quite bad and you could have done something about it but it took that big like bang moment to

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start recognizing what was going on that's an excellent question and during

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that decade what I had been doing for the most part was just trying to

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give my fine tools for my patients to use to lower their stress because I knew

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if they didn't lower their stress they'd never truly be happy or healthy so I did a deep dive into neuroscience and

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neuroplasticity because my medicine cares about the root it cares about the why I have to know why things happen so

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then I could work backward and fix it and when I found neuroplasticity

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I knew I was on to something and that states that our minds are wired with every thought we think

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right and every action every strong emotion and once I figured that out it occurred

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to me okay well that's why people get more and more and more and more and more stressed over time right because their

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mind with every worrisome tense stressful thought wires and negativity's

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in there too and we can talk about that in a second and why because it's part of our stress response but

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I saw that in my office and I developed my tools because I wanted to help my

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patients but then I myself over a two-year period went through a really

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really really stressful time myself I uh we moved and my dad was dying over a

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period of eight months and I got so stressed I lost my business and

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I think going through that two-year period I couldn't see the forest through the trees I think I was in The Quagmire

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of stress so deep that I couldn't see what it was doing to me does that

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make sense yeah of course totally like as you say I mean obviously the brain

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the Mind thoughts of very complex and complicated and um when we yeah

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especially when we are stressed when unable to access certain parts of our brain that are like connected to

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rationale and intuition and to like the present moment you know when we're

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stressed we're constantly thinking about you know getting out of danger and you said something interesting in regards to

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some of the people that you work with about unhappiness and stress and you've

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obviously seen that as a pattern and uh I wonder if you could talk to us a little bit more about that because

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stress like stress is kind of like unavoidable there are obviously different levels of stress and we put so

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much we put so much of our stress on ourselves unwillingly I think in most

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cases and Society certainly plays a part in regards to its role of we must be busy we must be stressed we must be

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doing stuff in order to be you know whatever Society deems to be successful or productive but you've seen like a

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clear correlation between the stressed people you've worked with and their levels of unhappiness

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100 percent um and I think that's a really important point and I want to start with the fact

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that we are always going to have stress and we don't want to get rid of our

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stress response because we need it right it's how we react to the stress that

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matters and how we react to the stress is dictated by how our brains are wired

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and the reason that the negativity comes into play with the stress I call it Debbie Downer syndrome I don't know if

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you ever saw that Saturday Night Live with the character Debbie Downer um basically everything somebody would

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say to her she would put a negative spin on it um but that's because we are wired with

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this stress response to constantly consider worst case scenarios and what are worst case scenarios

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negative they're always negative so we're wiring our minds to be stressed and negative at the same time because

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they go hand in hand so when you're constantly rolling through those worst case scenarios your mind becomes more

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and more and more negative and before you know it you have Debbie Downer syndrome and you didn't even know it was

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happening in the first place because obviously we wouldn't do this on purpose right but the thoughts that we think and

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the emotions that we have each wire our mind into this spot right

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and I think too sometimes that's why it's hard to see it as it's happening because it's not like a you go from a

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you know one to ten it's like you go from one to a 1.25 to a

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one and a half to a 1.75 or you know it's a gradual sort of progression and

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you wake up one day and your husband's walking out the door and you're like oh what um wait a minute what happened wait a

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minute how this happened it happened yeah that's wild I just it makes me also

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think when you're talking about because there's obviously obviously some sort of level of um

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being addicted to the hormones produced by stress right and it just makes me think of newspaper and the news like

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it'd be very very interesting if our news

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um papers and news reports were just all good news all the time rather than it's

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just always bad and I think that's been cultivated over you know probably

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60 70 80 years to recognize that if we actually if they actually just spoke about good news all

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the time I don't think you I don't think people would tune in because they'd be happy and they'd be focused on themselves a little bit more but the

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fact that the news is just always negative and it Sparks fear and anger and rage and frustration

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and all these like you know very short very short wave um frequencies then we you know when we

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can we get some really like addicting hormones pumping around our body when we kind of see these things it makes sense

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that these like media Outlets continuously pump us with extra

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external stress stimuli which then you know changes our biochemistry and you know weirdly keeps us coming back for

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more unless you kind of start recognizing like how damaging that is and the majority of the stress that

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comes into your body that does change your biochemistry in a significant way coming from external sources that we've

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got the ability to shut down you've got the ability to stop talking to colleagues or friends that are just like

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super negative individuals that just want to like bring you down and those you know and then the TV you can just

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switch that off you know like but we have so much more power than we think we do in regards to beginning to change our

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relationship with our stress you said it before like you know some levels of stress is going to be inevitable it's an

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important part of our biology but our cultural evolution is just so so much

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surpassed our biological evolution that there's so much around us now that just continuously Keeps Us stressed out and

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pumping out these hormones and there's no way our body can continually keep up with you know that that literal

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production of like of chemicals yeah it's a good point and there's a good point too because

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it's real you know and the stress hormones are

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actually you know that when we are chronically stressed like you're talking about when those stay high that's when

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the health issues start to occur because just like you said our bodies are are

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built to deal with short bursts of stress right in those hormones but when

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we have ongoing high stress and ongoing High hormones like you were saying our

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body thinks we're choosing to live in a neighborhood filled with saber-toothed tigers it thinks we're just a weirdo it

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doesn't understand it's like ah this I don't know what this girl has going on but she she likes the danger you know

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and it's just like you're saying it's it is addictive and of course media knows

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that and so do people who make you know scary movies and and I'm not trying to

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diss scary movies you know you watch one scary movie it's not the end of the Earth but like you're saying with the

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news if you're watching this tooth three times a day how are you wiring your mind

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well you're wiring your mind to be more stressed and negative every single time and they don't tell you that part right

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it's just like for so long people didn't find out cigarettes were bad for them

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and those were addictive as well weren't they so and I think we need the news on a

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certain level but I think when you meet the news with a balanced mind and when

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it's not like you're saying an addictive sort of nature that you're going to it

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you know multiple times a day for extended periods of time that

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um that it becomes detrimental to people yeah I mean it can be just I mean it's so so difficult to actually find a new

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story or a new source that actually kind of like has all the facts and all the context and it allows you to actually

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engage your rational mind to actually kind of make your own decision about it it's like the let's fear is the ultimate

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goal of this of this article anger or rage or frustration is the ultimate goal of this segment right so it's kind of

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like the um how you're going to respond to it has already been decided by like the production team so it's just like yeah

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it's just kind of it's yeah it's so nonsense but we could talk about that all day but I want to talk I want to

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talk about um Eastern medicine and your training your practice because we have this

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Western culture that is really new it's super messed up in many ways in regards

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to our ability to go into go internally to do some healing work you know in

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regards to like meditation and yoga and acupuncture all these like ancient um Eastern Traditions that have been

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around for so so so so long all practices in self-care that's going to

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help us regulate our nervous system and they clearly recognize that like you know 5 000 years ago so there was

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clearly stresses involved in those civilizations before right like very different to what we experience now but

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they had the intuition to recognize that they have to take care of their nervous

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system and their body and their biology because the world is a scary place but

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we develop and we become better individuals better families better communities better civilizations

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by using you know the more rational intellectual parts of our brain rather than being a reptilian scared brain all

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of all the time so can you tell us a little bit about um some of the more traditional Eastern

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medicine practices and maybe you can touch on kind of like where the Western world is like massively massively gone backwards

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I mean I think you made an important point that this type of medicine has

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been around for five thousand years so has meditation so have these uh you know yoga and practices of that nature and I

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always say nothing that doesn't work sticks around for 5 000 years right there's a reason that this stuff is

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still around and I I'm a proponent of Western medicine too because we need

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both you're having a heart attack you don't call me you know you break your arm I got nothing for you you need a

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surgery I'm not your girl but what Eastern medicine does that's different

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than Western medicine is it focuses on health so the ancient doctors were only paid

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when their patients were healthy if their patients got sick they didn't get

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paid for that amount of time which I think is really interesting and another interesting point of Eastern medicine is

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it's not it's not symptom focused right I I touched on this a smidge earlier but

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it's focused on getting to the root cause of the issue because when you solve the root cause the symptoms go

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away and that's where Pharmaceuticals fall down a bit because Pharmaceuticals are

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about alleviating symptoms which is important temporarily and if

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you use Pharmaceuticals for a short period of time they can be great but if somebody says use this pill for the rest

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of your life for this symptom the body reacts poorly and that's where you've

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got all these side effects coming into play right but when you so for instance one roll of

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acupuncture is to rebalance the body and rebalance the systems right and so when

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you use symptoms as guideposts to say okay this is where this body is out of

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balance and you use modalities to get that body back into balance the symptoms

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go away now Eastern medicine in particular traditional Chinese medicine uses

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acupuncture herbs nutrition um I would prescribe meditation to my

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patients and there were some takers and some not but meditation and mindfulness as well

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beautiful yeah I mean just I mean I've experienced with all of those all of those practices and I know

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how they make me think and how they make me feel and how they make me behave and

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because doing meditation or doing yoga you are taking the time to become present with your mind becoming present

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with your body connecting the two of them and then you can actually start recognizing what my root cause might be or where my

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pain actually does sit where these aches do sit rather than like the drug

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management where you know you are suppressing you know you're trying to deal with symptoms rather than getting

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to the root cause and then you end up after you know even a short period of time of like you know pharmaceutical toxicology you you stop your body being

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able to have this you know internal endogenous healing process which is obviously so ancient and so important

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that we kind of need to put our body in the best position to um we need to get out of the way get out

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of the way so our own body can do that magical like healing process that it does and you can't do that without

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becoming um present and aware of your body and what's going on like you you know where

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you put your focus is where you put your energy you can't do that if you're using you know kind of a drug management

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system especially if you're going into it thinking that this is going to this drug or whatever's going to heal

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something that's been coming for 20 years and also a lot of people don't recognize that a lot of the habits that

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they have again like becoming completely unconscious of the majority of the things that they do with their diet and

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not moving their bodies sufficiently and not having a decent um relationship with with dealing with

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their stress these things build up over sometimes for decades for people and then when they do start to get

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pretty sick or they start having a disease and then they get a diagnosis and they have a pathology people never

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recognize that maybe it's their own doing for 20 years of eating crap and

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not working no not moving their body which they're designed to do so it's an it's interesting that we unless you do

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start taking these Eastern philosophies into consideration you'll never become really aware of your mind of your body

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and how you may have got into a situation exactly and I think one one way that

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Western medicine falls down a little bit is it puts way too much power in the

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practitioner's hands the power should be in the patient's hands like you're saying we should be able to be conscious

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of oh I eat that food and it makes me not feel good or I am not exercising and

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my body feels this way but like you're saying some people are in such a space of and I don't want to say

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bad habits because I don't think it's their fault I think it's miseducation and misunderstanding because I don't

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think anyone would consciously put themselves into a situation where they

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feel that way right but when you when you just say oh just take this pill you're going to be fine it's all going

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to be better that disempowers them and it also

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doesn't educate them on the decisions they could make to change that situation

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and I think that's why your podcast is important because it gets these

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decisions it brings them to a conscious level right and it puts the power back

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into people's hands to say to ask questions because questions are so

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important and yes that practitioner may only have X Y or Z but you know what if

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they're not giving you the answer that resonates with you or that sounds

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healthy then find someone else and ask them yeah I think the word power that you

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mentioned a couple of times is very very important I think that just looking kind of like at the medical system which the

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conventional medical system which certainly has its place there's a very interesting power dynamic in regards to

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like you know the doctors and the Ivory Tower and and all of that and you do go into

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um a doctor's office for a consultation and you might have like seven minutes I think it's the average time in America for like a consultation like uh there's

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no way that doctor can give you the the right amount of attention needed to kind of go over maybe 20 years of of

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discomfort or pain or whatever it might be so so difficult to do that so like those individuals those patients go in

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there and they they really don't have the power or time to ask questions or

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like become part of the process it's literally like tell me what you're going through and then the you know the doctor's going to prescribe something

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and we unfortunately give up that power when we just accept whatever comes out

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comes out of the doctor's mouth and sorry just just one more thing yeah I think a big thing for me is the response

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is the responsibility piece like I think that we do such an appalling job especially with kids and in school to

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teach them about responsibility and not just about being responsible Within

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your classroom or you're within your family or within your community but also being responsible for yourself and your

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own actions and and becoming part massive part of the healing process and being part of the doctor's conversation

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and being part of like your own Health Journey we do a really poor job

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of that and for a lot of most of the time it takes like trauma tragedy or something really bad to happen before people start self-reflecting and

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realizing okay no one's gonna do this but me and for a lot of people it can

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they can be in a really really really bad place when they have that realization

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that's right and I want to be I want to be careful saying that I feel

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like it's a system and it's not the doctor's fault because I have a lot of friends who are doctors

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and they're doing their job they're doing you know they're trained to they

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have a certain toolbox right and they're trained to just use those tools they prescribe those tools so we become a

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society that's just dependent on those tools and we've been trained that way

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they've been trained that way and like you're saying sometimes it takes a tragedy or something huge for

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people to come out of that thinking and say wait a minute I think there has to be a better way and

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how do I find that and that's that's the Consciousness piece of it and we're not we're not

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giving people in most circumstances that opportunity I do think the younger

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Generations are better about it because they're getting it more uh but you're right we need to do better

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job in schools and we need to do a better job of empowering people

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in their health in their mental health in their physical health all of it yeah I agree with you that the

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system is kind of set up for a setup for failure set up for a very particular type of prescription or

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particular type of interaction with a doctor I also think that um there are a lot of doctors out there

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who could have an influence because they obviously are part of that system and it's obviously not perfect and they they

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have other things that they have to consider but there are it's remarkable how many people you've had on the podcast who are like you know who like

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retired doctors are coming to the end of their career and they've they spent the last maybe five ten years of it just

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just completely coming out of that conventional model going into something functional because they've spent 30 40 years recognizing that this seven minute

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consultation and you know pharmaceutical only um prescription process just it just

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doesn't work it doesn't get people um back to health better and it's interesting that you see that more in those like smaller and like Community

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family doctors because they work with you know they're with people for you know for large parts of their lives and

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when somebody is you know when you somebody as a doctor's using what they've been trained in to try and heal

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or help somebody nothing's happened really in 30 years it's you know it's just it just sucks that it takes such a

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long period of time for a lot a lot of those individuals to recognize that maybe if they focused a bit more on

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nutrition or stress management or Community or whatever it might be taking some of these Eastern philosophies in

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then they could have done you know so much could have done so much more for the for those people but it's you know it's as you say it's a very very tricky

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system that these these practitioners are working in so it's it's super it's not easy

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it's not and it's interesting because when the medicine is focused on health

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it's a different situation when the medicine is focused on disease it's a disease-based model

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that's what you get you know it's not necessarily a health-based model it's a

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disease alleviation model which is what it was built for and that's okay I mean we need it believe me

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Western medicine has saved my life a couple times so I'm not knocking it at all I just think they need to work in

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conjunction with each other instead of this or this it needs to be this and

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this this to stay healthy this if you get into a bad situation yeah I often

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think about how advanced that emergency medicine you know that that really

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beneficial part of commercial medicine could be if you know no I want to say

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like 95 to 99 of the patients that people see day to day in the doctor's office are you know the chronic issues

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that are you know that could have been that could have been avoided I do have

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to say Simon and and in years of practice I witnessed this some people don't don't want to

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they don't want to take responsibility I mean I saw so many different people suffering and I would give them the

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solution which was a natural solution and they just they didn't want to do it they want a pill they want that answer

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because why do you think what did you think sorry because it's harder right

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it's harder to eat healthy it's harder to cut out something from your diet that could be exacerbating your gut and

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causing systemic inflammation it's harder to go to bed earlier if you want

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to stay up or give up alcohol or whatever and I'm not saying everybody has to do all of these things all of the

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time right but some people just don't they don't want to do you think people just when they

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get to that type of position that they just want to take something to just alleviate their pain or their discomfort

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just by a little bit and then that's that's enough or is it the case that

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I mean if they really wanted to heal themselves and even cure themselves in some cases like certainly it's very very

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it's going to be hard to do that work and take that self-responsibility but it's also like they must have some we

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all have this level of programming of wanting like a quick fix for something whether it is for a drug for a disease

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or a workout for the six-pack that you want you know like we have this like culture of wanting something

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quick to get the results fast like I feel that's embedded in our culture now

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that's a you nailed it on the head right there the Quick Fix and drugs are a quick fix

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the internet's a quick fix you know we have a lot of quick fixes around us and our brains are wired for quick fixes

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because that's what we have right so you've just nailed it on the head that's what people want that's what people are

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conditioned to have and if you tell them that it's going to take them like even

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in my book I say it takes six weeks because natural things take time I

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always tell my patients you can't plant tomato seeds and eat the tomatoes that night for dinner that is not how nature

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Works nature takes its time right but if it's if you're working with nature which

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we are an integral part of aren't we inextricable part of

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then that's the only true way to change and heal because if you're going against nature

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you have that quick fix but nature doesn't work that way nature doesn't understand that and so like we were

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talking about earlier you get the Cascade of side effects you you it you pay a price

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yeah I think there were quick fix is I think we should reword that because I don't I don't think we're really fixing

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anything you know even that's true yeah so it's interesting that we we even word it like that when it's not

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really a fix and you know it can take it I mean it's going to take so much hard work to like you know cure yourself of

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something that's taken you so long to to um to to get to and I I talk about that

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with my nutrition clients is the fact that listen okay you've got all these symptoms and you've been eating and

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doing all these you've been you've had all these habits for 20 years like do you think that it's going to

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take like a week or two weeks how long do you think it's going to take to like redo the kind of damage that's been

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caused here you know like in a lot of people don't necessarily think about it that

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way because they don't think like what they did in their 20s or in their 30s has affected them now in their 40s they

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feel like oh this their genetics or it's just like bad luck or it's just like an age-related thing that they've succumbed

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with like maybe these digestive issues on the in this and this pain so it could be very very difficult for

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people to like even take the self-responsibility for stuff that's like in the past it doesn't really matter anymore like you know it's like

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okay you did you think stuff in your 20 and 30. you can't change any of those things but like you can do something

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about it now to start feeling like a little bit better and a little bit better there must be some like some deep

32:24

psychological um things going on for people where yeah we we desire this quick fix like but we

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we can't really like sit down and be rational and recognize that that's actually gonna like do anything and and

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deal with 20 years of pain yes and in addition to that it's like

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short-term satisfaction versus long-term satisfaction right and reaching for

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those cookies is that short-term satisfaction and it's much easier to do

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than to resist those cookies and go for the long term right

32:59

benefit so yeah that's an issue too it's like what do you want in this

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moment I want this is that what's good for you it is not but that doesn't make me not want this

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in this moment you know people want what they want what they want when they want it and they don't want to equate that

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decision to a repercussion totally now I and I that's something

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that's actually come up for me in the last like few months in regards to how I personally like motivate myself to make

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like honestly good decisions most of the time um it's about like how do I want to

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spend the last like 10 years of my life my marginal decade you know how that's my motivation for doing stuff now in my

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like late 30s so it's more of like a like a back casting motivational

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practice rather than thinking short term about like next month or next summer or

33:54

next year like where do I want to be like health-wise um because trying to find your why or

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your motivation is can be really really tricky for a lot of people especially when their whole experience with their

34:05

pain and discomfort and their habits is all in the past and there's nothing they can really change about that and you know they may

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not have liked their body for 20 years or liked the way that they looked um that can have like you know that

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that's no that's that's matter in the brain which is firing and wiring and you know creating thoughts creating

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um feelings creating behaviors but rather than looking forward to be like okay this is where you are right now

34:31

things in the past may have got you there but like how do you want to spend the next you know 20 30 years of your

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life especially how do you want to spend the last 10 years of your life because that's can be a really important um

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motivated to create the Stepping Stones necessary to kind of get you where you need to be yeah it's just interesting

34:49

how so many people find that lack of goal that lack of motivation that lack of why

34:56

when you know some people can some people can find it and use it on a day-to-day basis to do really really

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good things but then some people like really really struggle to find that self-motivational piece and I don't know

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whether that's like from maybe not growing up in certain environments or not getting that type of

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um motivational responsibility in school I don't know it's just like deeply psychologically interesting that you

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know people people are wildly so different you know we all experience pain and anger and depression and anxieties but

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some people want to uh like do the work and some people don't

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well and I think we have a lot of people who are in happy denial

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they're in happy denial that the decisions that they're making today are going to affect them when they're 80.

35:45

right but they are and they do unless you have a huge major

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turnaround but like you're saying we are conglomeration of all of our years

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you know it's not like oh I'm you know I'm just this month I'm just last month no I'm you know I'm 51 years of choices

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that's what I am sitting right here in front of you and I've made a lot of good ones and I've made some bad ones

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but a lot of people just don't want to either believe that or

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even let it come into their Consciousness because it's

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it's harder work I think and I think we're conditioned and I love when you

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said earlier we need to eliminate this quick fix thing because it is not a fix you know we need to say I don't even

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know how we term this like a quick decision quick Choice quick I

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don't know and maybe even quick as well is a bad word it's just like I don't know what

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quick is it yeah yeah it is and it's not a fix but I digress

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um but I think you're right I I think that people do have a hard time making decisions in the present moment that

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affect their long term yeah it can be a little tricky tricky

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for people to just even find the motivation to maybe do some good things for themselves like tomorrow or the next

37:14

day you know like we talk ourselves out of quite remarkable things that we know do so can just do so much for our for

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our health our health span our lifespan Etc um I want to talk about um neuroplasticity a bit because you

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work with rewiring you know helping people rewire their minds to become more

37:32

balanced become happier and calmer so do we how do we get to a position where we

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have brains that are wired for unhappiness and erratic natures and

37:43

being out of balance good question can I give you an analogy you may okay

37:49

so you just got a new job okay you are in charge of routing airplanes

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at American Airlines okay not in charge of the snacks don't care

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if the seats are comfy you're just wearing the pla wiring you're just routing the planes okay in in our

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analogy The Travelers are your thoughts

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and the flight patterns are the neural networks neural Pathways in the brain

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and neural means nerve and nerves are interconnected in your brain and they make up these Pathways Okay so your boss

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just called and your boss said okay stress Bill is hot everybody's going to

38:31

stress bill we need to make as many flight paths and

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connections to stressville as possible so we can get all of our Travelers there right

38:42

so your Travelers are your thoughts and your neural networks are your flight patterns so your boss has just told you

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because of that activity you have to increase the accessibility

38:55

okay so all these Travelers are going to stressville they're loving it it's

39:00

trendy it's hot it's happening it's basically dominating the flight patterns

39:07

like you're they're not no longer going to Cleveland they're not going to New York City or British Columbia they're

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headed to stressville everybody's loving it stressful stressful stressful and then

39:19

where are your flights scheduled

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I don't know most of them are scheduled to stressful aren't they okay right yeah so then if somebody wants to go to calm

39:33

town right they go online they look for oh my God it's really hard to find flights to calm

39:40

town because everything's going to stressville but if you want to go to stressville it's really easy because you

39:45

just log on like oh my God everybody's going to stressful has so many options right and this is how your brain gets

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wired and it's unwittingly done because we would never do this on purpose but just

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like every traveler that wants to go to stressville helps those flights become

40:03

more frequent get more connections and the synaptic um connections or the connections

40:09

between the nerves that you have to make right which is you have to make your connections between the flights is this

40:15

making sense oh yeah it's great Okay so when that happens in your mind over time

40:22

your thoughts are dominated to stress fill so something even remotely stressful comes up bang you're in

40:28

stressful before you can say Bob's your uncle you don't even know what happened like you're you're fretting that you're

40:34

you know third graders report card can mean she's going to be a pole dancer at a dive bar in Queens before you even

40:41

know that you've had a thought about it right so if your thought if your thought if

40:48

your brain is wired that way that's what most of your thoughts are going to be it's easier

40:55

but what if what if things changed okay your boss calls and says I do not know what's going on but everybody now wants

41:02

to go to calm town they want to think common happy thoughts well you would have to make more flight

41:09

connections and flight Pathways to Compton and then that would become dominant so then when that stressful

41:16

thought comes up right you go online you're trying to schedule a thought it can go quicker to calm down than it

41:24

can to stress fill does that make sense totally and just as you're explaining that it makes me it

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just makes me think about how important um like food and nutrition and like even

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supplements comes into it because you're talking about these flight passes like you know physical neurons and when we

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are like you know chronically stressed and we are just like more programmed to go to stress feel the quality of those

41:48

nerve tissues the quality of the chemicals and the the the electrical the Electric electrical component as well

41:54

these these tissues in these these hormones are going to be of poor quality

41:59

if somebody is in a really long-term chronic state because if they're stressed most of the time their

42:05

digestion is going to be poor they're going to be unable to like break down the individual nutrients necessary to

42:12

create tissue and create hormones and proteins and you know using amino acids

42:18

Etc so when somebody is like chronically stressed like it's so that their their neurological Pathways is certainly set

42:25

for stress but they're also like probably not in the best quality and if you are looking to make that like

42:31

transition into like a calmer mind to rewire your mind you're certainly going to need like the materials the resources

42:38

to produce new neurons that are actually of good quality

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um you know there's you know we that they're made of so many different things and if we don't have the resources

42:48

coming in through nutrition or from from a micronutrient supplement then you're

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gonna you're gonna struggle to to transition to making good quality brain tissue

43:00

yes triggers us to want to want those yummy

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foods doesn't it trigger it triggers us for because they create serotonin in the

43:12

brain and serotonin is you know a happy chemical so um but yes of course and Azure digestion

43:20

deteriorates because chronic high stress well stress shuts down the digestive

43:25

process doesn't it right because stress shuts down anything not absolutely necessary for survival so if it's

43:33

shutting down the digestive process you're not getting the nutrients that you need and you're right supplementing

43:39

with some very key nutrients can be amazing help

43:45

in chronically stressed people yeah I mean I know so I'll Flagship

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products here at your hope Canada is a broad spectrum micronutrient formula that's the most studied my connection on

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44:01

and bipolar schizophrenia they they're taking a consistent form of nutrition

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that's very much bioavailable it's in very specific forms and it helps that

44:15

process of healing because the body's always trying to heal itself the brain's always trying to heal itself but somebody who's depressed and maybe

44:20

isolating themselves and maybe not eating brilliantly or exercising well their ability to create you know new

44:26

neural Pathways or new muscle tissue or whatever it's going to be depleted because they don't have the resources

44:32

and they don't have like the let's just say the energy or the metabolism to like make those things happen but when you

44:37

can actually consume a micronutrient or or a highly

44:43

dense form of nutrition you're just helping your body be able to do that so much better and you know

44:49

especially when you're in like a tougher place where digestion might not be well and you might not actually be craving or

44:55

wanting um those types of healthy foods that are going to be able to get you there taking a supplement that's just like you know

45:02

an easy thing to take that can kind of get going right away can be such a such a helpful thing in that like

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transitional process of healing right and I would venture to say that doing

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activities specific activities to rewire your mind

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at the same time is critical because if you don't change your thought patterns

45:25

you're not changing that circumstance it's like you're not rewiring and rescheduling

45:32

things to go to calm Town you're just continually living in stressful

45:37

so but I think both are really really important yeah I completely agree with you yeah

45:42

having the practice as well you can't just take something expect everything to heal up but you know a lot of people can when they start taking like good Nutri

45:50

when they start putting good nutrition into their bodies it can kind of like lift the veil a little bit and allow

45:55

them to start thinking different thoughts rather than kind of like the more uh negative darker thoughts that

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just like circulate and ruminate and like wire and fire fire and wire like more consistently yeah and I'm this I'm

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not trying to be cheesy and plug my book but that's why I love my book because it gives you exact times to do it how long

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to do it exact exercises to do it's very very very detailed because when your

46:24

mind is wired towards stress you know your those stress pathways are like the Incredible Hulk and they take over just

46:30

as fast right so you need designated time and designated exercises to be able

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to do to start that rewiring that makes a heck of a lot of sense

46:42

where where can people connect with you and maybe get a copy of the book the book is on Amazon it's called the calm

46:50

code and I really wasn't just trying to plug it right there I promise you but it's perfect

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um and I'm at um drannie white.com and Dr spill d-o-c-t-o-r

47:02

awesome that was really cool I really appreciate you coming on the show and talking with me today I think it would

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be great to get you back on to talk about um some of the other topics that we just kind of brushed over on today especially

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with the Easter medicine piece I think the more that we get to the more we can talk about

47:19

um these ancient practices you know looking back throughout history and looking at these ancient wisdoms is very

47:24

very vital to the progression of our species in all honesty

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um so thank you very much Annie for coming onto the show I really really appreciate your time today thank you so

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much I so enjoyed being here and I love what you're doing so thank you

47:41

thank you beautiful well I'll make sure to put uh connection links for Annie in

47:47

the show notes today if you've not subscribed yet uh consider doing it leave us a review on iTunes and uh yeah

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that is it for this episode of True hopecast the official podcast of true hope Canada we'll see you next week

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