Guest Episode
April 21, 2023
Episode 115:
German New Medicine with Natasha Nazerali
Listen or watch on your favorite platforms
Natasha is the CEO and creative director of the conscious brand "Wondheirland," a platform which strives to create educational courses, events, and one-to-one sessions that encourage individuals to awaken to living their truth.
Her Mother's passion for the mind, body, and soul allowed her to learn
"The 5 Biological Laws" as discovered by Dr.Humer, which is the sacred biology of the human that fully integrates the synchronicity of the psyche, brain, and organ connection.
This truly enabled her to understand and educate others on how to achieve total sovereignty and freedom over health and healing. It is her greatest honour to serve others by bringing them back to the remembrance of their true divine nature.
Today we will discuss German New Medicine.
0:00
greetings hello good day wherever you are in the world thank you for joining true hope because the official podcast of true hope Canada true Hope cast takes
0:07
a deep dive into mental health many physiological and psychological aspects this is the show for you if you're
0:13
looking for motivation inspiration knowledge and solutions that's what we are all about here at true hurt Canada
0:19
and true hope Canada is a mind and body based supplement company dedicated first and foremost to promoting brain and body
0:25
Health through non-invasive and nutritional means for more information about us you can visit truehopecanada.com today I welcome
0:32
Natasha and Israeli to the podcast now Natasha is the CEO and creative director of the conscious brand Wonderland which
0:38
is a platform that strives to create educational courses events and one-to-one sessions that encourage
0:43
individuals to awaken to living their truth her mother's passion for the Mind
0:48
Body and Soul allowed her to learn the five biological laws which was discovered by Dr Hummer which is the
0:54
sacred biology of the human that fully integrates the synchronicity of the psychic brain and organ connection This
1:01
truly enabled Natasha to understand and educate others on how to achieve total
1:07
sovereignty and freedom over their health and healing it is our greatest honor to serve others by bringing them
1:13
back to the remembrance of their True Divine Nature today on the podcast we
1:18
are going to be discussing German new medicine enjoy the show Natasha hi welcome to True Hope cast how are you
1:25
I'm doing great thank you for having me Simon what's uh what's going well today it's been some funky weather outside what's going well it's a beautiful day
1:32
spent my morning by the ocean got some vitamin D it's gorgeous in the sun lots
1:39
of snow so I'm having a great day wonderful well please give us a little bit of an introduction about who you are
1:45
and what it is that you do please absolutely so my name is Natasha nazarali I'd like to say I've been on
1:52
the spiritual journey from the beginning and I've always strived to work within the field of Consciousness and I grew up
2:00
as a professional dancer dancing in Los Angeles and New York and that was really the start of merging art with
2:08
spirituality and later during the pandemic I decided to create my own conscious brand with ethical jewelry and
2:16
at the same time I had been growing up with my mother who really guided me on spirituality and Consciousness and she
2:23
was an educator and practitioner in the five biological laws and Germany
2:28
medicine and I just saw an opportunity where people were really looking for guidance and answers with everything
2:34
that was going on in the pandemic and I had more free time not working so we
2:40
decided to work together and through our own you know passion with Consciousness
2:45
and Awakening and spreading the truth we decided to form a study group and to
2:52
just get the word out about the five biological laws as much as we could and now we have regular courses and regular
3:00
study groups and events where we work with colleagues and doctors and practitioners all over the world and we
3:07
really just strive to educate as many people as possible on gaining
3:12
sovereignty over their health and achieving a really full understanding of
3:17
what it means to live in accordance with your mind body and spirit wow that's a lot that's cool absolutely
3:25
what does gaining sovereignty over your own health mean well through the perspective of the ghk
3:32
lens it means understanding that the psyche the brain and the organ work
3:38
together in absolute synchronicity and when you really live in alignment with
3:44
that you start to understand that nothing that is happening in your body
3:50
or in your biology is working against you nothing is malignant to be malignant
3:56
means to have evil in your body and your body is always working for you so
4:03
achieving true sovereignty is understanding that alignment and working
4:10
with your body in accordance with the five biological laws really
4:15
wow okay can you give us a little intro what's what's Germany medicine maybe give us like the foundational piece
4:20
though absolutely so let's start with the history of how we even got here today so German new medicine was
4:27
developed by Dr Hammer and he went through an experience of his own
4:34
testicular cancer he was working in oncology at the time and he really
4:40
thought there's no coincidence that I'm having this testicular cancer it has to
4:46
be for a reason with his journey his son was killed very
4:51
tragically and he developed his testicular cancer soon after and he
4:56
through his own conscious awareness thought there's no way this is an accident I've just gone through this
5:02
immense trauma there has to be a sort of synchronistic connection between
5:07
connection absolutely and he thought how could I prove this how could I validate
5:13
this sort of gnosis through science let's say adulter at the time absolutely he was a
5:19
doctor at the time he's working in oncology he was also working as a professor and so he had the ability to have all these case studies too he was
5:26
really set up in the perfect opportunity to dive deep so what he decided was he
5:31
would first off talk to all his patients who were also going through testicular cancer and he asked them if there had
5:37
been something significant in their life that they had gone through and they had all gone through a significant loss just
5:44
like him with his self a lost conflict yes and so he thought okay I'm gonna go
5:49
through another layer now I'm going to see whether we could actually validate that through the brain because the brain
5:57
is the control center of all our organ Anatomy so from there he went and
6:04
studied the brain scans of his patients and he found that in the relay of the
6:10
brain that corresponded to the testicles now I'm going to start to get a little specific here in that relay of the brain
6:17
they all had a slight what we call a hammer Focus okay so he could actually
6:23
pinpoint that there was something there and he took this and he studied
6:28
thousands of patients with thousands of different Cancers and thousands of different diseases and he was able to
6:36
validate the discovery that everything that we experience in the body is
6:41
actually a result of a conflict shock and it actually happens at the brain level first and then the organ is
6:49
responding to what we're experiencing so through his work through his own
6:55
experience he pretty much set out on a determined Conquest to validate this
7:02
notion and he was successful in doing so and now for many many years
7:07
practitioners and doctors around the world carry on this Legacy and really the goal is that we all get to the point
7:14
where we study this work so we can all live a lifestyle in accordance with this knowing and then you really have no more
7:21
fear over anything else again that could happen to you when did this when's when
7:27
did all this like happen like what's the the timeline here this was in the 70s okay yeah so this kind of this initial
7:34
discovery that Dr is it Hoffa Dr Hammer Dr Reich Garrett Hammer okay in in the
7:40
70s so like 50 years later absolutely but I always like to point out this was
7:45
not an invention of Dr Hammer this is the way our biology works and his
7:53
amazing work proved that and started a foundation for what we can now carry on
8:00
and a lens we can look on to understand our biology today so I was like to say that it's not an invention of his it was
8:09
just a way of proving that we can actually pinpoint that what we experience in our life and the traumas
8:15
and the conflicts that we go through they are in charge of what we symptoms we will have in our body yeah I think
8:22
everyone's got an example whether it's personally or friend that they know who's gone through something significant
8:28
in there in their life whether that's in their childhood or their adulthood and then pinpoint that to like getting sick
8:33
or having a significant illness like cancer or something I think everyone's got an example of that I know that I I
8:39
certainly do a couple of them so it's just fascinating that this that this guy is just like stumbled across had the
8:45
actual consciousness an awareness to connect the two yes and to so fortunate
8:50
that he was in a place where he's able to facilitate the research facilitate the testing and test this hypothesis
8:56
that obviously yeah it's not just it's a discovery of a process that's always always been there it's always been
9:02
available to us so that the you know I think it makes sense to a lot of people who are more in the natural realm that the body is designed and there to like
9:09
heal us make us feel incredible and do all these like incredible things that it does absolutely not to put us in a state
9:16
a state of disease and it's such a stenosis any sort of person who has some sort of conscious awareness about their
9:23
own self can say yeah absolutely what we experience impacts our own biology and
9:30
in our work we really like to say biological programs or a biological
9:36
adaptation as opposed to using terminology like it's a disease right
9:41
because actually our words have a lot of power and when you go through this you're
9:47
actually grateful for what you experience because every one of these symptoms there are messengers they're
9:53
showing us something they're mirroring us something that we're experiencing in our life so you might hear me over the
10:00
next course of the conversation talk a lot about biological programs as opposed
10:05
to a disease or an ailment or an infection you know these are biological
10:11
adaptations that are helping us overcome what we're experiencing in our life yeah
10:17
I mean it's super interesting the fact that you know somebody who might have a pathological disease a diagnosis it's
10:22
not like they wake up one day and it's like there you know these things take time they grow and I think that a lot of
10:29
people with experience with with a trauma or a loss or something significant in their life that
10:35
energy and that very hyperbolic situation that Energy's got
10:42
to go somewhere right like in within the body and we're not really in a society where we
10:47
something big happens to us and we digest it and we lay out on the table and we like go through it and we end up
10:52
a little we kind of like eliminate the situation absolutely we want oftentimes Quick Fix Solutions and the majority of
11:00
the time the biological programs we experience they're always in accordance
11:05
with the level of the conflict shock so if you had a very extreme conflict shock the biological program that you're going
11:12
to have is going to be in accordance with that so it's also going to be severe if the conflict shock was severe
11:18
you know the healing program is severe so it's not like I take a magic pill and
11:23
it's all gone you know it's about really working in accordance with that but that's also why true hope is so great
11:29
because when you have a really great support system and when you have you know a conscious relationship that
11:36
you're already having with your body based on what you're feeding it and based on what supplements you're taking how you're supporting your body that way
11:44
anything that you do experience because you know just because you know this work doesn't mean you're Invincible right
11:50
we're still going to have things that come up but now we're better prepared to deal with them and go through them so
11:56
it's still important to maintain your health overall physically too yeah and
12:01
we have this very weird thing on our culture where we don't listen to the messages that the body gives us right so
12:07
pain fatigue all of these things like not being able to sleep like all of these
12:12
things are messages within the body like trying to tell us what to do but what we what do we do we go and we get a we get a drug to try and deal with these
12:18
symptoms which have side effects which you know will take more drugs to deal with those side effects so we end up just like
12:24
trying to be super ignorant and ignore these very very powerful messages that
12:30
the bodies always been able to do to tell us like this and you've got pain in that area you've got like this going on
12:35
and this going on and by choosing to ignore that through the um the profound
12:40
effects that Pharmaceuticals have we massively uh miss out on what I would
12:46
call like a really ancient um sense that we have with our own bodies you know like we obviously got
12:52
our we've obviously got our five senses but I feel like we've like got with this like species with amnesia when it comes
12:58
to our ability to recognize that there are things happening in my life that are
13:04
traumatic and my body is going to give me very very good solid feedback for
13:10
when those things are out of balance exactly our ancestors knew this knowledge and that's exactly why Dr
13:16
Hammer called it girl Manisha Hal kunda which means Germanic healing knowledge
13:21
it's not because of his own German patriotism is because of the Germanic people you know they were philosophers
13:28
they were artists they were living in harmony with nature and their biology and when he named it gomana shahalkunder
13:35
he was trying to put emphasis on the fact that this knowledge has been known
13:41
and that living within according students with your biology is is how we were actually meant to live and it's how
13:48
ancient civilizations were thriving throughout our history and it's bringing
13:53
back that sort of remembering of where we came from and
13:58
how we once lived before so I was laughing my mom laughs too because it's like now it's been sort of slang German
14:05
new medicine and it really doesn't have anything to do with Germany and it's really nothing new and it has nothing to
14:10
do with medicine right so there are some certain practitioners that might use
14:16
their own terminology for it um but originally the work is
14:21
so there's still a ghk and there's a gnm German new medicine but I always like to
14:27
emphasize that the root of the name of Germanic healing knowledge came from
14:36
that gnosis came from him wanting to just really highlight that we knew this
14:41
all along how oh so from the 70s how was this received by the conventional model
14:49
well not well as you can imagine this was very threatening to the medical
14:54
establishment and the system and you know this work was really really
14:59
undermined they came at Dr hammerhard just like you would in any cancel
15:05
culture nowadays I mean if you looked at the past two years we know this all too well anyone who speaks out against the
15:11
system is going to get buried so yes he was um imprisoned he was exiled and his
15:17
history is vast but the work speaks for itself and I think that so many people
15:23
already had this knowing within them that it has to all be related somehow so
15:29
I mean it was undeniable this work was going to get out there and I really stressed to students who are eager to
15:36
learn now learn this work it's your Birthright to know this this system as we know it is crumbling
15:44
and it's only gonna crumble even more than medical infrastructure the medical establishment I think we're seeing is is
15:51
not helpful to our society that we have today and this is going to be at the
15:58
Forefront I mean I just know that to be true I completely agree yeah yeah they we so
16:05
many people have seen how the sausage is made asking a lot more questions and the trust that's
16:11
been entrusted probably unnecessarily in a lot of these um a lot of these huge foundations and
16:17
these uh massive institutions absolutely like questions are being asked and people are looking for an alternative
16:23
and that alternative is kind of like always been there for a lot of people where would people go if they wanted to like read more about like what we're
16:31
talking about especially other history like the history fascinates me specifically yeah but also like getting
16:37
an idea of like this original like documentation in regards to the research that was done so my mom learned the five
16:44
biological laws in Germany medicine um from an amazing educator Dr Carolina
16:49
Mercola who has an amazing website it's called learning gnm.com and I really
16:55
believe it to be one of the most comprehensive websites because you can search a disease or a symptom or an
17:03
organ and it will have the you know exact sort of um answer conflict route everything you
17:10
can imagine is on there available to you for free to the public so we really owe
17:17
her a great gratitude for putting all that work together and having it be accessible
17:23
um also there's the ghk academy now Dr Helmut Pilar was the predecessor of Dr
17:30
Hammer who passed and um actually helmet pillar has now passed as well but the
17:36
ghk academy still continues and there's amazing practitioners all over the world
17:42
that teach and educate and so there's an array of places you can go but those are
17:48
the two really big ones I would personally recommend because they have a great foundation and a really
17:53
comprehensive sort of platform for you to be able to get a gnosis and an
18:00
understanding of what this work is beautiful I'll make sure that there's I'll put a couple of links in the show notes for people absolutely how do you
18:06
think that this has survived like it sounds like in the last I mean to have the exposure of like these websites and
18:13
these other amazing practitioners like coming in like how do you think it survived like the inevitable Onslaught
18:18
from you know the conventional side so interestingly enough um I grew up with this work so I didn't
18:24
and think anything of it I mean when my mom was first studying this this was very underground you know and for me I
18:32
just sort of have this different perspective because I just always grow grew up going to my mom and saying oh you know I have a sore throat what does
18:38
that mean or in gnm or like oh you know I think like something's going on in my
18:43
musculature what does that mean and that just oh she always had an answer for everything I was going through and it
18:49
was almost like I had no secrets from my mom because anytime I was sick she was
18:54
thinking what did you just go through right so for me it's really fun to be
19:00
able to teach it now because I sort of come from this background where it was just sort of normal with me in my
19:07
household to be asking questions like this and to be having that relationship with your body but nowadays I feel you
19:14
just can't stop the fire because health and wellness is at the Forefront and there's also really amazing people
19:20
within the g m community that have made sure they're going to keep this word work out there and keep this work
19:26
accessible to the world or as accessible as it possibly can be so social media
19:32
and Technology just allowed it to grow even more and now you know you have
19:38
people on Tick Tock even talking about this and talking about Dr Hummer and his
19:43
own history so I think when something is as powerful as this and as extensive
19:50
because Dr Hammer acquired a lot of extensive evidence through the brain scans and just your ability to
19:58
understand this biology through the work is like totally Paradigm shifting and I
20:06
think you know it's just you didn't you know like the cream always Rises to the top and the truth always comes out
20:11
eventually so I just think there was nothing stopping this fire it was inevitable and it was his Destiny as a
20:16
person to come to this planet and do this if you want to think about it spiritually which I like to think about
20:22
it spiritually it's just his death um tell me about these five biological
20:27
laws then so this is a big extensive knowledge of
20:32
work and it might sound like oh what language is she speaking but I'm gonna just break it down in really simple terms for everyone to understand but it
20:40
does go a little bit deeper than this so our first biological law is the iron rule of cancer so that was the first
20:48
discovery Dr Hammer had with his own experience with testicular cancer and
20:53
that number one rule is every biological program in the body comes from a
20:58
conflict shock so a conflict shock is a sudden event unexpected shocking that we
21:06
experience so maybe you just got that phone call you lost your job right conflict shock maybe you're driving in
21:12
the car and someone just cuts you off conflict shock because in this work you think Primal what does the body do to
21:19
survive anytime there's a threat anytime there's conflict your brain operates as a super computer
21:26
it's thinking and registering what smell is in the air where am I located what is
21:32
the temperature outside who am I with right so that's the number one rule
21:38
first everything starts with the conflict a shock our second role gets a little bit more
21:46
complicated is the law of two phases so that's our normal Daytime Nighttime
21:53
circadian rhythm when we're going about our day we're living in harmony there's nothing on our minds that it's worrying
21:59
us we have a normal daytime to night time circadian rhythm in our world we
22:04
like to call this your normatonia your normal harmonious state now when I experience a conflict okay
22:11
maybe I just lost that job right we go into what's called conflict activity
22:16
okay we are hands are cold we can't sleep all night we're up all night thinking about what the problem is Right
22:22
we've shifted that circadian rhythm to be on high alert now we're in the
22:28
conflict activity and now maybe you resolve the conflict okay I got I got a new job or that car
22:35
didn't cut me off in traffic and I didn't get in an accident and I'm okay and we have this restoration this
22:42
healing phase that happens where the body re-adapts okay we're no longer in conflict and it goes through what we
22:49
call a more vagatonic State okay so now I'm like okay conflict over so now I'm
22:55
more tired and I need to rest and I need to process and that's the healing phase
23:00
so our second law is this law of two phases that each biological program so
23:06
every symptom in the body goes in those two phases and when you think about that
23:12
one like life works that way too right like every birth experience when you
23:18
come to this world we're conflict active and then we push it out and then the mother finally has her child she has this healing phase so everything we
23:24
really go through your yoga works the same way and that's our second law our
23:29
third third law is where we get a little bit more biological that's our on to genetic system so that's looking at the
23:36
different germ layers in the body and the different layers of the brain so that's understanding where each organ
23:43
Falls within the onto genetic system the onto genetic system is kind of how we
23:48
form even from the embryo and it helps us indicate whether we are you know at
23:55
how the cells are operating I'm just going to break it down like real easy for everyone to get so I'm not going to
24:01
get too detailed into that one but it does get very detailed when you go into this work but that pretty much tells us
24:09
which brain area we're working with how the organ is functioning and that onto
24:15
genetic system helps us get really really really detailed um our fourth law is our law of microbes
24:22
so that is the understanding and the gnosis that microbes fungi bacteria are
24:31
there to help us so that one is a real paradigm shift for most people okay but
24:37
I like to encourage people think of it like the firefighters you know we have something going on in the body we have a
24:44
fire and now the body is going to send the signal for all those fungi microbes
24:50
TB bacteria to come and help us out so that's the understanding that we don't
24:55
need to be afraid to you know touch something that's not sanitized or kiss
25:01
the dog if you want to because it's about knowing that our microbiome is a
25:06
healthy support system and that when we have the biological program and we have
25:12
an excess bacteria or fungi or microbacteria that's there it's there to
25:17
help us okay so this is a whole Paradigm Shift about understanding
25:23
so-called viruses we don't really look at that through our lens okay that's our
25:28
fourth law then we move into our fifth law which is the quintessence that the
25:34
psyche brain and the organ work together in synchronicity and that every program
25:40
has a function and has a purpose so that's that extra layer of okay now I'm
25:47
understanding that what I'm experiencing is through a conflict or a trauma I get that but not only is it just that it's
25:56
also that whatever adaptation I receive in the body is actually there to help me
26:01
Resolve that conflict so if we look at Dr Hammer with his testicular cancer
26:07
his conflict was that he experienced a traumatic loss with the death of his son
26:13
and that resulted in his testicular cancer now the extra layer is that what
26:20
would nature do if you lost your child the biological response would be to
26:26
procreate have another one so what do the cells and the testicles do they
26:32
peripherate okay to assist me in being able to procreate again so that fifth
26:37
law is understanding not only is this symptom and the body caused by a conflict but it's actually helping me to
26:45
resolve that conflict and cope and deal with that conflict okay that's the
26:51
quintessence so I just broke down like a whole body of work in a very um short
26:56
way of understanding and of course it's a lot more detailed than that but that sort of gives you a brief overview of
27:02
how it all works and comes together it was a highly impressive breakdown thank you so yeah that was an incredible
27:08
breakdown of these of these five biological laws and honestly it makes a lot it makes a lot of sense to me
27:14
because I've got a bit of a background in regards to that way of having that type of perspective when it comes to the human body healing immunity those types
27:21
of things and disease so say for example I have not heard of any of this before and I listened to this podcast and it
27:28
all sounds very very interesting it resonates with me because I might have a friend or a family member or myself
27:34
who's got cancer or some sort of disease where do I go from there like is it can
27:41
I just research this stuff and go through a protocol or do I have to find a practitioner that can guide me like
27:46
what does that look like right so first off with this understanding it's about the knowing that every sort of cancer
27:54
every sort of biological program is the solution to the conflict being
27:59
experienced so most of the time when we have a cancer the body will always break
28:05
it down on its own in fact most of us might have already had Cancers and big
28:11
symptoms that would be scary without even knowing it so that's where we get
28:16
to the law of microbes where all that fungi bacteria a good microbiome is
28:22
going to be there to break down the cancer itself because most of the time depending on what organ we're talking
28:28
about it is already in the resolution of the conflict that the biological
28:36
adaptation or program has come so most of the cancers will go away on their own
28:44
but it's about having the conscious awareness of under understanding that so
28:51
let's say you're working with something you know and Dr Hammer's work he would
28:56
get to the root of the conflict the psychic root of what you experienced
29:01
that created this biological adaptation and majority of the time that was
29:09
already enough to just have the awareness of oh yeah nothing is wrong with me I just experienced that that
29:16
makes sense and then the body would do the work to allow it to be broken down on its own
29:22
sometimes with the ontogenetic system our third law it is that the program is
29:28
being created already in the conflict activity and that's when you want to do the work to resolve that conflict or
29:35
transcend that conflict through your own Consciousness so you can overcome that
29:40
but really what we like to say is why it's so important for you to know this and to
29:47
study this is that so it's preventative right it's the same reason why you take true hope so you can prevent yourself
29:53
from experiencing anything significant or major in your body so this work is
29:59
the same way you want to know this before you go through a major conflict that makes you sick because it's
30:05
inevitable that things are going to happen to you right but do you have the tools available to you in the knowledge available to you where you're able to
30:12
recognize what's actually happened yeah how my body's reacting to that situation and then you're able to actually like
30:19
process it yourself and give your body the ability to do what it does yes and it was Dr Hammer's mission to just get
30:27
this work out there to the people like oftentimes we live in a society where you go to the doctor you don't even
30:32
understand what the doctor's saying you know they're going to diagnose you with something they're in their white coat I
30:37
have nothing I'm not saying anything against doctors I'm just saying how we
30:43
yeah and it's like somebody else has all this information and knowledge and we don't have it so we better just listen
30:49
to them right this is different this is no you have the right to this knowledge because it's how your biology works and
30:56
it's how nature works and nobody can tell you what conflict you've experienced only you know the answer to
31:02
that as an individual and you have to do the work to become okay with that so it's quite radical responsibility you're
31:10
taking here when you're practicing this it's viciously empowering to be able to have that perspective with some sort of
31:17
when something's going on for you right you just described the whole like white Coat Syndrome thing perfectly there like
31:23
it's a there's no it's not a Therapeutic Alliance it's not a team thing you know
31:29
it's like you're being kind of told what to do and like again like I don't want to bash doctors either but that's just
31:34
the way that they're trained that's just the the scenario in this like seven minute period of time where you might
31:39
get to explain you can't explain your whole health history in that period of time to get a real diagnosis right but
31:45
right and in our work we even have the diagnostic shock which is that you go to the doctor and now you have cancer and
31:52
Bam now you've got your next conflict I have cancer next biological adaptation created and they build on top of each
31:58
other then exactly so it's like a never-ending cycle where there's no way out whereas with this work it's I
32:05
already know this so I'm not afraid and anything that happens I got this and my
32:12
body's got this you know so I'm not looking for any external sources but
32:17
having a community of people who know this work and who live in accordance with this work is super helpful and even
32:25
the mission of ghk was that hopefully one day you'd have one person in your
32:31
family who knows this very very well who you could go to and I happen to be pretty blessed to have a mother who
32:37
knows this really really well who taught me and I try and teach as many people as I know yeah well I think that that's
32:43
very very traditional you'd have a you'd have a medicine man or a Medicine Woman in in in tribal cultures in our small
32:49
communities and that would be exactly where that information will go that generation would learn even more information pass that down
32:56
etc etc yeah in South America in um the shamanic tribes they actually had
33:01
something called the disentanglement process so when somebody within the community would go to the shaman or the
33:08
Healer and say I have something the shaman would say let's go through the disentanglement process where I
33:14
disentangle myself from anything that's causing me distress and I ask the Mother Earth to be disentangled from that or
33:22
that person or that situation and when you know this I would say yeah of course that's exactly what we're doing I mean
33:29
we've been known this for centuries do you get a lot of resistance when you
33:34
bring the stuff up to people um yeah sometimes tell me about that because it's uh I think that if you
33:40
didn't understand this or you had a very strict belief system around healing disease
33:46
medicine doctors whatever like you would have a very difficult time wrapping your head around this
33:53
right so like can you give me some like examples so it's kind of it's controversial work because on one hand
33:58
let's say you have the person who just is really believing in the medical system and ascribes only to that
34:04
ideology that you know we kind of collectively as Society have to ascribe
34:10
to so that person this is like oh that's nonsense that can't be true because you
34:15
know the books say this and they're thinking about it very logistically and on the other side you have maybe some
34:22
really spiritual conscious people that say oh no but it's a miraculous healing or you know I I pray and it does and
34:29
that's true too so it's like you have these two sides of the coin where they could look at this work and go
34:34
absolutely not you know it's this or it's that so I really like to approach
34:42
it on an individualized basis where I say well actually through research and even
34:50
through the mainstream research now there is a collective acknowledgment that you know the trauma that we
34:57
experience gets stored in the body so that's great now that there's some
35:03
knowingness of that and with this whole shift in more mental health awareness
35:09
people are knowing to take more better care of their mental health so from the
35:14
perspective of psychology they might resonate with this too so yes it's very
35:20
controversial and sometimes I do receive a lot of backlash but what I try and do
35:25
is work more intuitively it's almost like I might be able to get this to you without you really knowing it and then
35:32
by the time I've finished talking to you you've kind of already admitted what your conflict was and I'm saying well yeah don't you think that that has
35:39
something to do with what you're experiencing and most of the time they don't deny that right okay
35:44
yeah I think doing this podcast and interviewing so many practitioners doctors Etc who have switched more into
35:52
their say like a holistic natural path of healing they've had their experience
35:58
of conventional medicine for a long long period of time recognize that it's not the only answer or the answer and
36:05
they've they've tried different things or they've had experiences that have made have led them down a different path
36:11
but you're you're young you're a young person so I wonder like how does this
36:16
resonate with your like group of friends that you're close with like do you do you talk to them about this do they
36:22
connect with it like good question so I am really passionate about this work and
36:29
one of the reasons why I'm passionate about educating young people specifically is that like for example
36:35
this work was underground for decades but also there was no infrastructure like the internet or social media to be
36:42
able to amplify the knowledge so what's really amazing about this young people
36:48
is that we do have the ability to amplify this knowledge and tell people about it and if we can start to live in
36:55
accordance with it from a young age already we're so much better set up forever especially if we want to start a
37:01
family unit we can just carry this work on so I happen to be quite outspoken you
37:07
know otherwise I probably wouldn't be here so I make sure to tell all of my friends and I say you know come study
37:13
come to group come to the class learn this work and it usually starts with you
37:18
know a friend casually mentioning oh you know like I really have this like cold
37:24
sore on my lip and I you don't really know where it came from and I'm like oh really like who did you really want to
37:31
kiss you know because it's a separation conflict of being separated from something that you wanted or something
37:38
that you didn't want so usually it'll start with something as simple as I might just give them a clue as to
37:44
something they're experiencing and that might draw their curiosity to be like what are you talking about and before
37:50
you know it they're sitting in class and I'm making sure they know it even better so I like to say when you know this work
37:58
and when you practice those work you walk your walk and you talk your talk and I really strive to do that so I live
38:05
in accordance with this work I talk about this work to as many people as I can and it allows for it to grow so yes
38:12
I think young people are heavily influenced by The Narrative that's out
38:18
there right now but just as much as there is that there is a strong group of young people who just have this
38:23
intuitive feeling that something is not right and they want answers and they want a community and so I really strive
38:31
to be able to create that in any way I possibly can can you give me an example of how you live this work
38:38
right so it's really a lifestyle shift so I really have a great conscious
38:45
awareness of what's going through my body so I'm teaching an amazing course with my mother right now on women's
38:51
health and I thought that was really important because when you look at the female you know every month she's going
38:57
through her menstruation or she's getting pregnant and she's carrying life right so even in class I like to say how
39:06
many of you women every time your period comes you go like oh my God I hate this
39:13
I hate this you're creating the conflict for yourself instead of accepting and living in biology and nature and saying
39:19
to your body thank you so much for allowing me this process that I can give life or what do so many women do they go
39:27
on birth control and they just deny their body from experiencing it at all right so when you look at just through
39:33
being a woman in this world today and how I live in accordance with this work is so significant because I strive to
39:40
have a relationship with my body where when my cycle comes every month I welcome it and I welcome the symptoms
39:47
that I'm experiencing with it which are minor because I don't have a lot of conflicts with my cycle because I
39:52
embrace that but most women think oh my God no I can't go to work I can't do this I feel awful I feel awful and then
39:59
create this track that follows them so that's just one example of how I live this work as a female right even when
40:06
you look at pregnancy when you're in mainstream Society once
40:11
you get pregnant the doctors just treat you like you're sick and you got a doctor appointment every month and you got to go here and you got to do that
40:17
checkup and it's like oh my God something's going on with you and your body when really that's the most sacred
40:22
important time so it's about having a sacred Union with your body
40:28
and you know any time I catch myself talking to someone who starts to get
40:34
into fear over oh I'm having this you know I'm having this ache and I really don't like it I say welcome it that's
40:41
amazing that's a message from your body telling you something listen to that so
40:47
when you're walking this walk when you're talking this talk you know you're living in accordance with your own
40:53
biology you're welcome every welcoming every experience that comes to you and then I even encourage you to when you
41:00
see somebody going through something you're there to support them and you're there to offer something from your
41:07
perspective that you can share maybe they won't receive it that's okay maybe they're not ready to do that and that's
41:13
fine too but just to offering that point of reference that's new for them that
41:19
can be enough to just spark curiosity to look at something a different way so it's like I just truly believe we all
41:27
have these different ways of um um inciting some kind of intuitive
41:32
information to each other you know like we're all just guiding each other home so the more we can live our life like
41:37
that the better really yeah it sounds like Consciousness and awareness is a very big part of all of this I suppose
41:43
and the way that you're talking about walking this walk it's you're aware of like what's going in your body you're aware of like the thoughts you have the
41:49
feelings you have the behaviors you're going to exhibit the things that are going on around you and I think that once you're able to start becoming a
41:56
little bit more aware you start being able to actually quieten the noise and actually start being able to listen to
42:02
your body and listen to the thoughts that you might be having and kind of connecting the mind and the body a little bit more I say it's a very big
42:08
step for a lot of people to start taking to reassess so many different things in their lives whether that is
42:15
you know a crappy job a crappy relationship a crappy relationship with their own body whatever that might be
42:20
um do you have any like practical tips for people to start becoming a little bit more aware because you mentioned you
42:27
had this conscious brand at the beginning and I was going to ask you like what's your definition of Consciousness because we hear this word
42:32
like a lot so maybe you can answer that question first and they're going to give us some a few examples of like how
42:38
people anywhere can really start to become a little bit more aware of like
42:44
what's going on inside and around them so for me Consciousness is the alignment
42:50
with the entirety of the Oneness that's what Consciousness is for me
42:57
understanding that I am beyond just this physical body and I'm beyond just this
43:04
experience that there is a part of me that is all-knowing that is divine and
43:10
so when I have the gnosis of that I know that everything that I experience has to
43:16
also follow that law and be significant and pers purposeful and be
43:22
interconnected right that's the one that's the interconnectedness that's the
43:28
whole that's the Consciousness and now when we're looking at that from a practical standpoint with this work that
43:35
would already be downgrading our conflict so that Consciousness allows us
43:41
to experience a conflict and not be so traumatized not have it be so severe but
43:48
of course life's going to throw things at us but the more we have this Consciousness the more that starts to
43:55
downgrade and in this work we look at two things we call one a practical
44:00
solution and one a Transcendent solution right so let's say my dog's going
44:06
through a separation so separation is like a hair loss right it could even be
44:11
on your dog you always pet your dog on your tummy and maybe now you've gone away way for vacation if you notice they've lost all this hair on their
44:18
tummy so a practical solution would be to go Comfort them and rub their tummy again right that's practical right or
44:25
maybe you know I'm having an indigestible morsel something I can't just stomach you know I I'm I had
44:32
somebody once who had some really severe stomach issues and I told them I think
44:38
you maybe want to leave your relationship because there was so much in her relationship with her partner
44:43
that she could not stomach and when she finally did that practical solution and left that relationship
44:50
stomach symptoms gone right because she was having all these conflicts from
44:55
being with her partner so that's what we call a practical solution and now let's say you need a Transcendent solution
45:02
right you have something somebody's died that's a huge conflict and you have a biological adaptation with that conflict
45:09
now you need to do the work to have the Consciousness to transcend that and
45:14
that's what we call in this work are Transcendent Solutions right that's when
45:19
we really need to do the healing the journey with the body to do whatever we
45:25
can to get to a point where we can come to terms with that and that can be more difficult for somebody who's not used to
45:32
looking at life that way okay Natasha thank you so much that was an incredible I don't even think that was a
45:38
foundational introduction to Germany medicine that was just um
45:43
connected with me in many many different ways in regards to like what do I what I've experienced just in my own body and
45:50
people around me and then just like being able to dive into different I don't want to say alternative methods but the real the real complementary
45:57
medicine you know so how can people maybe connect with you if they've got questions if you're open to that are
46:03
there's some like good resources where people are able to like learn a little bit more we've mentioned a couple of them already yes absolutely so I have
46:10
everything in my programs events courses all under my company and brand
46:17
Wonderland and that's
46:23
w-o-n-d-h-e-i-r-l-a-n-d so we are all the heirs to this work and to this world I like to put in that word so you can go
46:31
to wonderland.com or look up Wonderland on social media and you can also look at
46:39
great resources like the ones I mentioned in this conversation learning gnm com ghk Academy and there's amazing
46:48
other Advocates like Dr Melissa cell who I work with and she'll bear Renault who
46:53
are doing really really amazing jobs at getting this work out there on their platforms as well and I just want to
47:00
stress that this is a team effort and so I owe a lot to my mother almost
47:08
everything to my mother those I wouldn't be here today but she is the one who is truly at the Forefront of getting people
47:16
connected with this work promoting people who are leaders and Pioneers in
47:21
this work and in this knowledge so I really just have to give all my gratitude and thanks to her for allowing
47:30
me to share this with you today big shout out to Mama Kay she's in the room yeah all right well thank you so much
47:36
Natasha I really appreciate your time today thanks thank you for having right well that is it for this episode
47:42
of True Hope cast the official podcast for True hope Canada I will make sure that there are lots of links available
47:47
for you in the show notes so you can connect with all this phenomenal information for a lot of people it's going to be brand new but very very
47:53
exciting but we'll uh we'll see you next week foreign
47:59
[Music]