Guest Episode
February 10, 2023
Episode 112:
Children's Emotional Health & Well-Being
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Lynn McLaughlin served on three different school boards as a Superintendent of Education, Principal, vice principal, teacher, teacher, and Educational Consultant.
As an award-winning and best-selling author, Lynn has published both fiction and non-fiction books and is now co-authoring a children's book series with her niece titled, "The Power of Thought."
Lynn is passionate about giving children evidence-based strategies they can use daily to build emotional intelligence.
Lynn is the host of the podcast "Taking the Helm," now in its third year. Over 100 guests share courageous stories of triumph after suffering crises in their lives.
Today we will discuss Children's Emotional Health and Well-Being.
But I think we have to teach emotional vocabulary at a very young age and
help our kids understand that there's a reason why
when we feel angry, there's a reason we feel angry and
it's okay to feel angry. It's not a taboo thing if
we're frightened, there's a reason we're frightened, but we
have to take them through understanding what scared frightened worried
means. Yeah those signs and those
symptoms that you're showing right now show me that you're afraid let's
talk about why you're afraid and then they have to identify
what that trigger was if we can help them just have
those basic conversations at a very young age. They can
use and not just happy sad mad. We need
to teach more extensive emotional vocabulary if
they can identify why they're feeling
that way and it's okay to feel
that way. Then the next step is to take them into the problem solving
thing to say now, what do I do about it? I think I think
we can move our kids into an amazing place of proactivity if
we can just help them do those three things right
from the beginning.
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today on the show though. I welcome Lynn McLachlan
to the show Lynn served on three different school boards
as a superintendent of Education a principal or
vice principal and educational consultant as an
award-winning and bestselling author Lyn has published both fiction and
nonfiction books and is now co-authoring our
children's book series with her niece, which is titled. The power of
thought Lynn is passionate about giving children evidence-based
strategies that they can
use in their daily lives to build emotional intelligence.
Lynn is the host of a podcast which is called taking the helm. It's in
its third year and has over 100 guests sharing courageous
stories of Triumph after suffering crisis in
people's lives today. I want
to show we're going to be discussing children's emotional health and well-being.
Enjoy the show. Okay. Good
morning Lynn. Welcome to True Hope cast. Thank you for being
with us today. How are you? What is going well?
for having me
you know you wake up every morning and just count your blessings and
be thankful for
For all the people and the love and what's around you what you've
got in your life. Yeah, love it. That's a
really important start to the day. Like we can certainly just wake up and slip
right into our subconscious patterns and
forget to be conscious and aware of all those amazing things
that we do have and that's a really energetic powerful way
to to start the day for sure. So that's great
good for you. And can you just give us a
little introduction please who you are and what it is that you do.
Sure.
tired four years ago with from a 31
Career career in education and
I was I served in every role you can imagine in that
world from teacher to program consultant
to vice principal the principal and I ended my careers
as superintendent of Education responsible for special education
services, which obviously had an envelope
around mental health as well. So what I'm doing now
brings that educational experience, I'm also
teaching still in post-secondary part-time. So
I've had students who started college after
two years of grade 11
and 12 and being online and that first year in college
was really something so experience that transition. I'm a
mom of three adult kids and my whole
premise right now is all around children's mental health
and what we can do as adults
to learn for ourselves how to model and
teach appropriate skills so we can move into a proactive
mode as opposed to waiting until people
get so close to the ledge or the cliff that it's becoming
Crisis response so I have a podcast just
like you Simon every time
I interview someone else. I'm just inspired to keep going
and tell their stories and my niece who's
also a social worker and I have launched a children's book series. So those
are my two main Foci right now on is
is getting people talking about proactive as
opposed to reactive.
such a huge point and I think I talk about this every other
podcast at the moment is talking about how we can best serve
our children and even ourselves
as adults as parents as individuals, right how we
can best serve those individuals to
Really?
Proactively get involved way before
the Tipping Point of trauma
or disease or some sort of situation that
happens and it's honestly like the big big
question. Like, how can we really get to these individuals
in a wholesome manner
so they don't have to unnecessarily suffer for you know
sometimes
Decades and lifetimes so it's such a huge topic and
I'm so glad that they're you know, it's also inspiring for
me because having these conversations each week knowing that
there are people out there who are you know out there trying
to do something about it and using their years and Decades of
experience to to do that. How how long
were you involved in like education like as a
teacher and as a head teacher and as a superintendent like
how how long was that career?
well
it's sewing because I'm
Aging part-time. So I guess I'm on 35 years. Okay. Yeah,
and I want to bring a personal experience in here
too. So I've got the education educator hat but I also have
an adult daughter who is doing remarkably. Well right now
but we had a year and a half of he double
toothpick where we were afraid for her with debilitating anxiety.
So all the lessons I learned as a
mom at that time and my husband as a father of what we shouldn't
have been doing and what we could have been doing and I I
also bring to the table for an open conversation, so
so as as a head teacher as a
teacher doing that 35 years of experience what
support of you had from your
superiors and from that's a you know,
the government Education Services, like what services have
they provided or support or education during
that 35 years. Like is it like
just starting to come good? Has it
been poor the whole way is it been non-existent for
30 years like Carol? What's your experience been with that support element?
I
Say about 10 years ago about
10 years or so. The mental health piece is really come into
it slowly but surely in Ontario. We
have 70 something school boards, and we're all
under the same curriculum. We all you know, we do it that way
the mental health supports we have we have
mental health supports in every single school now and I want to go
back five six years that started and in
my role is a superintendent of education. So we have educational
support staff. We have social workers. We have psychologists. We
have these people who are implied by the board and I would
say the professional development that was done over the last 10 years
and continues to be done was it has been
pretty exemplary based on where we were at that time when I
was a superintendent the and it's still
the case. I mean, we've done a literature literature review on
the levels of anxiety in Ontario in Canada
and around the world and it's growing exponentially. So we
we move to put child youth workers in
almost. I think they're in every single School.
In my previous School Board now that serves 35,000 students
and see whyws are trained specifically on
how to support children who are having mental health
needs and it may be a safe person to check in with every day.
It may be somebody who just understands that they need a break or
they need to, you know, do something or only take three courses
in high school instead of four courses in high school. I'm I
I mean, I'm not saying it's perfect. I think
we still have a lot of things we can do proactively. I
would love to see mindfulness activities happening
in every single classroom. I'd love
to see meditation taught in every single classroom. I'd love to
see us move into a proactive place and
we do teach emotional vocabulary in early
years, but I'm not sure we're doing enough and teaching
specific evidence-based strategies to our children. It's sporadic
and it's not consistent.
Mindfulness is being taught in some classrooms, but that's my teacher
choice, right? Yeah, that would be such an incredible way
to
even just start class or start school in like a, you
know coming into the class and having a transitional
period from you know,
Being asleep being, you know being awake
and then moving into a classroom setting.
What?
in kids in particular in school
Why do you think when we
can say this about a small community or the province you're
in or the country that you're in a worldwide but like
specially within kids like why do you think?
School kids and this level of anxiety is
just like is just rising and rising
and Rising all the time. Is there any particular things that you
think because you think that like
The better we get at no innovation as
a species as a culture like things should
get easier and things should be getting better. Whether that's like
within the technological standpoint within
learning within you know medications within
Healthcare and nutrition and food,
like all these things that we know so much about all of these things but we
see rises in not just anxiety within
teens, but we see roses in just like literally all disease. So
is there any particular that points for
the those school kids and that rapid increase or
because we see around the world like this. There's no hard. Yeah. Yeah. Oh
boy. Well, we may not have enough time but in this
might not be popular, but I'm just gonna say it. We're the biggest
problem is adults. We really are. I mean look
around us sign and look at the negativity the anger that's the
modeling that our children are seeing and they're seeing it, you know,
even if you're in a home, excuse me, I've got a bit of a call
today, even if you're in a home that you are modeling mindfulness
that you're present that you're having.
Open discussions all around our children in social
media, whatever. They're exposed to their face
with this negativity turn on the TV at any time of the
day, right that is all around them now and I
and I'd like to see the tables are turning and I'd like to see there's more positivity
coming through but really it is a matter of what they're
engaged with who they're engaged with and how often so I
think and we as adults because all
they can confession. I'm from the suck it up
that Buttercup generation. We didn't talk about how we were feeling we didn't
we just did what we had to do, you know,
and so a lot of us have trauma unresolved trauma that
we haven't dealt with ourselves. So how do we as adults
know how to model strategies to
teach our four five six seven eight year olds,
so they have the problem solving skills to face every day
situations that right now are shutting them down. So
that's two big pieces. The third
piece is we're we're trained to
be re
Of as opposed to proactive we wait
till we get the letter in the mail in Ontario Oh,
it's time for your pap. Smear. Oh, it's time for your mammogram. Oh it's
time for your you know, we're waiting when you're 50
years old. You can start to do this when you're 40 years old you can start to do
that. We wait to be responsive. We watch
our children when they have symptoms and say
wait a minute something's something's up here and
then try to help and guide through the symptoms. We need
to be moving before that time and teach
them when their brains in their emotions are still building
and developing so that they like I said, they can have those
tools. But how do we do that? When we weren't taught those
tools ourselves. So, oh I could go on and on
but those to me are the three big those are three really big components
in in why so many of us adults teenagers
children. We have we have day treatment
centers for five year old Simon.
We're doing something wrong. Yeah, I mean it's it's
obviously a huge topic and
that parental negativity that you're talking
about. There's obviously a root there, right? There's a root why
the whole world is anxious and depressed at
the moment and yes social media and and
mainstream media as
well. Like certainly have have a part to play in
that, you know that the idea that you know fear sells
and the they don't have to be truthful
with it, which is just mind blowing to me that we don't have any type
of
you know standards when it comes to reporting news
and having a responsibility to making sure that it's not completely wrapped
up and bound it bound up in fear, which you know,
obviously engages a certain part of our brain which you know
makes listening to that information kind of addicting and we were
in this constant state of survival and I'll
never system can't even contemplate the idea
of doing meditation or being conscious to our surroundings and
our emotional state when we can consistently in this,
you know, reptilian reactive and
brains so so difficult and yeah,
we could certainly go on about like the root of
those those negativities because
there are there is an external Source coming
in from all angles, which makes it very very difficult for a lot
of people to be able to recognize the negative influence
that they will have on their children and other people around them,
you know that's talking about like energy and frequency and like, you
know how we how we are in the world like it's obviously a
huge big thing, but we have to end up like if
want to change and we want to change this.
We have to start taking some personal responsibility. We have
to start learning we have to start reading and we have to start.
Being more aware of the things that we're thinking
about the emotions that we're we're having in the behaviors
that were exhibiting and there is an
amazing group of people out there and Foundations and
organizations and books that you know are certainly
doing their very best to support this. It's
just it's just it's just really sucks that it's not just like a big
mainstream government pushed like
help people literally get their minds and their
bodies better than they're able to like make better choices and
that's gonna you know,
Develop those younger Generations coming up
with more resilience with stronger mindsets with all these
skills and abilities and traits. That's just
going to evolve them as individuals and then
involve them as as a community and then you know when you have
that combination, you know you you create great things.
Yeah, I don't.
I want to I didn't even mention covid. I mean we can go
on and on about covid but the stressors that we as adults
endured during covid and still are to some degree
the losses that many of us have suffered. You know that there's
a lot of trauma that happened in the last two years to
adults as well. You know Trump my mother used to say stealing from
Peter to pay Paul to make ends meet but I think we if
we if we can learn to just be and this is
my my mission making conscious and Positive Choices
if we can be more aware of what
we're doing in the moment and stop that negative
reaction, especially in front of our children walk away
go for a walk scream at scream at
nature do whatever you want to do, but keep that connection that
positivity and that presence with our children
right there. We can make the biggest difference in
the world. You know what we all have our stressors, but I
think we have to we have to try to What's The Word?
We got it. We gotta draw a line to who we show those
to and who we don't and we are human. So, I mean,
I guess I want to say there's nothing wrong with saying to your child.
If you just like had an argument your teenager. I am
so sorry. I've had a terrible day. I should not
have taken it out on you. I apologize. We model
self compassion. We model ourselves as
being human and I'll tell you over time your child
is going to see that and respond in a more positive way as
well. We're not we're not unbreakable. We're human.
Yeah, absolutely. No, I think responsibility could always
comes up for me in these conversations and regards to you know,
you can you can make mistakes and make errors but you know, you have
we have to be responsible for them and and standing up and saying
yeah, I'm sorry. I've made a mistake there. I should not have done that. I shouldn't
have said that I shouldn't have you know, all these things and yeah it
that's one of the key things I think is
missing from you know, even just like young kids is that that level
of responsibility that we can give
them because you know, even a very young ages kids are incredibly
competent and incredibly smart and very creative and
can do all these incredible amazing things. If we you know,
give them the skill set to do. So, how do you think we start
making those positive and conscious choices,
especially when
You know most of us walk through our day like
95% like unconscious. We're just like doing these
things that we've just done every single day for
years and years and years and we don't actually have a conscious
thought or a conscious feeling or a conscious Behavior towards these
things. So it's very very difficult for people who are like habitually just
Pro literally programmed to
react respond and just be
in the world in a certain way. How do we begin because that's literally trying to change your
brain. It's a very difficult thing to do because we can't see
the change happening in our brain like we could if we
were going to work out we'd see the muscles change we can see it's
very very different when you can actually see it. How do we start to
to make those those positive and
conscious choices? Like what's the beginning
stages of that? Well, we've all been on the treadmill. I'll
call it a treadmilla treadmill that you're gonna fall off of I
got stopped dead in my tracks in 2013 with the diagnosis
of brain tumor, you know, and and
I believe that everything happens for a reason.
And I I retired from my full-time career. And that's
when I really learned to say holy
cow. You've just been on this treadmill for far too long. It's affected your
health. It's affected your relationships on and
that's when I started to say and it was collaboration and
listening to podcasts and things that got me moving that
way. I think the first thing is we have to learn
and you've already mentioned that Simon you've got a podcast where you're helping
people to learn new ways and new ways of thinking we have
people modeling it all around us. But what do we do first of
all to resolve our own trauma? And
so and that could be listening to other people.
It could be just having a conversation it's
digging deep, but if we can wake up in the morning and
just take five minutes.
Five minutes to say and you know, we talk about gratitude and
all those things but how is my cup more full than
empty and wake up in a positive mindset to
carry on through the day. It makes all the difference
in the world because if you wake up and you've hit snooze snooze snooze snooze, you're
running you're showering you're out the door and 15 minutes.
Yeah, your day is not gonna get off to the best start.
So I think it's how you start your day. But we also have to learn
those evidence-based strategies. We have to learn how
to model these problem-solving skills for our
children and the perfect time is between. You know,
you start you do read alouds on a very very early age by
the time there's six seven eight nine years old. They
are taking it in and they can learn those strategies. So
my niece and I who's a social worker. I've developed a
children's book series and the feedback we've gotten from adults
because your question is about adults.
Has been thank you. I didn't know the first
book is called I have choices. Well, you know Simon we
would all say. All right. Well, you got a choice go make a choice.
It's not as simple as that. We have to teach the kids what the
strategies are to move forward first of all to identify why
they're feeling a certain way what that emotion is and then
how to actually make a choice that takes them
in a direction that lessens that fear that anxiety that
anger or whatever and give us a positive outcome, but we
don't know how to teach it many of us because we're not social workers. We're
not psychologists. It's not something that we've been involved at him. We don't
learn it when we were kids.
So maybe I kind of went off on a tangent there, but no
that was great. Yeah, I think that I think that we have a big
misunderstanding of our actual biology in
regards to emotion and how we have
a lot of control over it if we don't need to right like, you
know, that's it's there's a lot of a lot
of philosophy but also a lot of Science in regards to like the benefits of
being able to, you know, create that space to actually
respond rather than to react in the short
period of time and how much responsibility and power we have over our emotional
state and therefore our nervous system and therefore
a lot to do without Health, you know, if we're in the sympathetic fight or
flight never system for a long period of time every single part
of our health is going to is going to suffer so
again
Being able to teach kids a young age and they're able
to understand this at such a young age that they have these strong emotions
that come up and you know, it's you know, you can't expect as an
adult to that a child is going to have the experience
you have with particular emotions and that they should just like, you
know, get over it or bottle it up or like not react like
that. Like that's insane especially for looking at like a young a young kid.
So we certainly have to learn
ourselves as adults or relearn and our
connection to our emotional states. And of course like you
know how we how we are in the world our kids are going to pick up
on that incredibly. So yeah, that's a huge
piece and and that's amazing. You've written written a
book about it. We can talk we can talk about the book and it towards the
end of the podcast because being an important resource
for people to to check out because books stories
such a wonderful way not only to just connect with your
kids. But you know telling stories is like one of
the oldest things that humans have ever done. So it's a great tradition to keep
keep going forward and just
Talk about like physical and mental health.
How do you think moving into like a positive proactive mindset
ends up supporting both
of those because you know mental health physical health,
you know different but obviously
interconnected like so how do you think we can start how to
how does moving into that proactive mindset starts
supporting both of those parts of our health?
Well, we're connected our bodies our souls our spirit our
emotions. They're all connected in their connected
to the universe, right? We are all connected to each other so that
positivity once you put it
out. It's coming back at you might not be right away. You know, it has that
pay it full forward kind of thing. But if we can if we
can intentionally not just in the morning when we make
up be present. So how many times Simon let's
ask the people who are listening and viewing are you
at the dinner table and your family sitting there with you but
your mind is here your mind is gone. It's it's thinking about
all the things that happen today or going to happen tomorrow if we
can intentionally be present in that conversation. Then we
leave with oh my gosh. I'm connected to
my family. You might not be able to express that but you feel that way if
we can take five 10 minutes to do something that
we enjoy every single day. I walk I walk
in nature. I listen to some amazing playlists
that are all about confidence building that
are about connective can if we can do something.
Maybe it's a bath. Maybe it's then we start to bring some
physical health to ourselves. It's all
connected. So a physically we're out walking
in nature and that is making us feel good and and and
building our hearts and in our
blood, you know, all those kinds of things that's kind of it's all related. It's
all connected. And then if we can be present we might
notice in nature some of the things we've never noticed before you walk
right past that you know, the
The geese that just flew over, you know heading off
on their migratory route, you might not have noticed that before if
you're in your house just everything. Okay, so I'm just throwing out
some ideas and what matters to you that gives
you something that you will physically and emotionally
enjoy and you will see a difference
if you make that part of your daily routine.
yeah, I think the nature pace is huge because I think that's the only real
place where we're able to actually quiet and
the outside world and you know
that sensory overload be it from a screen or just
like traffic or just noise like it
can be so hard to be able to actually quite
quiet in your mind to be able to
be able to put yourself in a position to be able to like
Put your energy back on you and and sense
what's going on for you? And yeah stepping into nature is
without question. One of the most powerful ways.
I mean you can do then it's actually highly researched and regards
to anxiety and depression and mental health in general
is to like, you know get outside and if you can add some
like some some like exercise or movement
into that process as well. Like it's only just gonna support your
health even further. But yeah, absolutely like especially when I've got
two young kids and I have to remove myself from the
situation at some point because it can just get overwhelming and it's got
nothing to do my kids. It's got nothing to do with that. It's just like I've got
a limit of like what my body can kind of like tolerate to
a level before I start moving into
that reactive State and I know that reactive State
isn't me and I don't want that to be
I don't like to be like a the prime example of who
I am because it's just not me. So yeah, I take myself
at that situation. We you know, my wife and I will take 15 minutes
if we need to just get outside get some breaths
and and you know, just kind of like reset and recalibrate because
that's what the nervous system needs. Right and and just that
even that five ten minutes can be just so profound in regards
to coming back into the situation and maybe
making apologies or just resetting your energy to to
teach you to teach your kids
that that happens to adults too, you know, and it's
a normal part of life and we're you know, we're the same
and yeah and ultimately we're teaching
them through our own example, and I think
It's a very very quick and simple way in which you can exactly start
becoming conscious and start becoming bit more of
a responsive individual rather than a
reactive and yeah, yeah, nobody really enjoys those
reactive individuals, especially when it's just like that's all that they
are all of the time.
So I can make the connection to my daughter through her year and
a half of debilitating anxiety. She got through it not
through traditional, you know, cognitive behavior
therapy or anything like that. She actually refused it she
started heading out in nature. She joined
team sports again, she joined a gym and she
started to become aware of what her triggers were and could
shut down that. Okay. That's that's the crazy person
talking in my mind. I shouldn't use the word crazy, but that's
the irrational person talking in my mind. No. No, I'm
gonna shut that person down and then and be consciously
aware that hey hold on and take
it off to a new direction of a positive way of thinking so
it's made a difference to her on the other end close
to the ledge too. So and I want
to jump in with conscious decisions about what we
do as adults every single day how much social media do we let into our
lives? How many times did we find ourselves scrolling and scrolling
and scrolling mean in seeing meaningless stupid ridiculous
things that make no matter
Difference to us when we could actually be connecting or taking
care of ourselves or walking, you know, shut it down.
I shut Facebook. I took Facebook off my phone.
I still use Facebook for my business, but I took it off my phone because it
was just getting crazy like seriously and then you get sucked into
these conversations that you want. No part of but you start
to be start to feel this way. We can consciously decide
how much we let in and how much we push out and how
much news we watch every day and what we watch and
what we listen to and that will make a huge decision difference in
your lives. If you don't let it in it's not going to affect you
in a negative way.
Yeah an hour.
Our biology is not designed to intake so much
information and light and have those
types of thoughts when we see these things like we're not
designed to do it. And yeah, I
think it's important that when we do like your daughter's
example of you know, going to the gym and and
being in nature more and and connecting with team
sports, you know, like that's such a healthy way to get
out of that.
Cyclical mindset of those thoughts that keep coming up for
us and you know, we shouldn't believe everything we think, you know, like a lot of neuron.
No a lot of neurons just fire just to fire and we
think that we're thinking these things and we you know, which we
have control over them and we give them way too much attention that they need and we
don't actually digest those thoughts that come up for us, but being with
other people and having conversations with other people and moving
your body and you know doing and changing your environment such powerful
very very simple cheap ways to completely
change, you know going from
an anxious person to you know, I don't say normal person but a
person that doesn't experience anxiety as a standard
throughout their whole day, which is just like an unbelievably debilitating
thing for a lot of people and can you
recommend any resources for parents to
help and
teach their children skills in regards
to like life and because
I think it can be tricky as parents because I don't know a
lot parents might think that those types of skills are supposed to be taught
in school or they they
They expect the school to to teach this
set of things and then I'll do these things at home.
And I don't know how much Community I'm in my consistent still super young and
I'm not too sure about where they're gonna go to school and
what they're going to do. Yeah, like I haven't figured that out yet, but you
obviously want to be aligned and you you know, you
want to be aligned with the school and what they're teaching you don't be contradicting you
don't you know, you want to be obviously a big part of that not always
not always not always possible I suppose but like what can
we do as parents like with like resources and exposure
to things that's gonna start like giving them actual
like proper life skills, you know. Yeah, I I
wouldn't be concerned about doing something and
in contradiction to what's being taught in the schools
when we're talking about emotions and understanding our emotions and
making positive and conscious choices because there's not
a teacher that I know that you know, if you've got a child who's struggling
with behavior, there's always a purpose to the behavior, right? So yeah
figure out what that is again. We're reacting to something that's
already starting with in that child, but
It everyone wants kids to be successful as
a whole person in their whole
well-being. We have a responsibility as parents and
adults any children Our Lives grandchildren nieces nephews
or whatever to model those kinds of things. We
have to learn them ourselves. So I do have on my website a
whole Mental Health Resource page. There's a
wonderful organization called jack.org, which is for teenagers
themselves. So I'm going a little bit ahead of you. But you
know, I think if we reflect reflect on ourselves or what
do we want to teach our children in terms of morals in
terms of guiding with the difference between right and
wrong we all know that that's ingrained in them by the time they're eight years
old. They're developing their moral compass by the time
they're eight years old. So we shouldn't be leaving that to the school system to
do is adults. So I mean, do I have a
resource? No, I don't have one resource Simon. I think
there are oh my gosh millions of
of books out there of
Of oh what I want
to talk Community groups of social engagement activities
of you know, I don't know
what four year olds go. Do they go to childcare do they go to a playgroup
do they go where these kinds of skills are being taught but I
think we have to teach emotional vocabulary at a
very young age and help our kids understand that there's a
reason why when we feel angry there's a reason we
feel angry and it's okay to feel angry. It's not a taboo thing
if we're frightened, there's a reason we're frightened, but
we have to take them through understanding what scared frightened worried
means. Yeah those signs
and those symptoms that you're showing right now show me that you're afraid let's
talk about why you're afraid and then
they have to identify what that trigger was if we can help them
just have those basic conversations at a very young
age. They can use and not just happy sad mad.
We need to teach more extensive emotional vocabulary
if they can identify why they're
feeling that way and it's okay to
feel that way. Then the next step is to take them into
the problem solving thing to say now. What do I do about it? I think
I think we can move our kids into an amazing place of
proactivity if we can just help them do those three things
right from the beginning.
Yeah, that's that's really cool. And
I think that's
so profound in regards to
what we can do as parents like even from such a young age to to
start helping our kids develop into the into the
people that that they're supposed to be and I
think yeah, I think you're what you said about success was
quite interesting because I think that
We should reassess or just assess as parents
what we think that means like
we all want our kids to do well and to be successful, but
I don't that's so broad. Like what does that even mean? Like if you
ask my wife and I that question one, we want
our kids to be just happy and kind that would be success. You
know, that would be success. So it's like and I think
that
we obviously want to do best do our best to the best we
can for our kids to, you know, get them in the best possible but
getting some clarity on that right? Like if your
goal is to have kind happy
children, you're gonna have to be the
example of that you're gonna have to be the role model of that and
that's got to be a part of your language and it's got to be part of their language
because you know that there's a there's a period of
time where
They're gonna learn significant part of their, you know
emotional being and it can be quite tricky like from a
certain age. Like if you're not say if you get it wrong, but like
If yeah, if you get it wrong as parents, then
there's gonna be a lot trickier like
down the road to be able to like adjust that or tweak that
it's obviously or possible. The brain is such an amazing thing to do and
kids are incredible and but yeah, do you think that
there's a lot of benefit?
From really establishing what you and your partner?
Want to and honestly get out of
your kids or how you want to sculpt them,
you know because they obviously they're their own individuals, right? But like
there are some of the key things that we want to instill in
our children that's going to and help propel
them to become the individual that they want to be there any particular
like traits you think are a really important. Oh imagine
a world of empathy where not
only are we are we empathetic people
but we can recognize when a child
beside us in on the playground is upset and
then be able to respond and support them, you know, empathy self-awareness
self-compassion. These are all the
components of what we call emotional literacy. Imagine a
world where our children are starting to become those
people and what that would look like in 20 years from now as
our adults. Um, yeah, I just
think I just think there's so much potential here if we
can move into that proactive proactive place. My mind
was going Simon with several things. I want to say
while you're talking.
There but yeah, I
think we have to learn as ourselves as adults and having that conversation
with your partner your family whatever it's going to be I don't
think there's anybody out there says I want to I want to raise a child
who's going to be angry and and violent
or right? We all want what's best for our kids but
we have to be aware of what we're modeling for them. Yes, you're
gonna push negative you're
gonna push that negative. Some people might have
to be pushed aside. Some people might you know, you might have to close the
door on some people who are bringing the kinds
of experiences to
your child that you don't want them to have.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, actually it's
family that's a set. It's certainly is absolutely like making
those boundaries is very important when you've got like multi-generations of
individuals involved in the raising
of kids, then it can get you get messy pretty
quick. But yeah, I think that yeah as a
parent you have to kind of take the ball by the horns there and take the responsibility
because the end of the day you're the parent and
you might want to do things in a different way and like there's every generation.
There's a different.
Starting at different style and adaptation of
parenting right? Like we primarily parent how we
want a parent and every culture too. Yeah, exactly and
that's it. That's very important as well. Because yeah, there's many different
things that come into that cultural aspect of things and just
to kind of finish off. I'd love to ask you about like what
motivation can we provide
people that think that they're personal circumstances
are just too much for them to
to get over especially when it it comes
in the way of like obtaining the dreams or their
goals or the things that they want to do because we were talking
about it before about how our thoughts can just create mountains
which seem impossible impossible.
So what do you think that you know,
what kind of
advice or motivation that you
can provide
To help those people in that in that position now, that's
a huge question to end with but I'm going to say I write read the
top of my mind baby steps.
It's you know, you can't think I'll go back to when I
had my brain tumor and yes, this is a concrete example, but I think it applies
to everything you one little baby step in
six months time. If you add all those baby steps
together, the the growth that you have had
in that time will be you'll just be blown away by how far you've
come but you've got to identify where do you want to be and then
what are the steps to get there? And the first step might be simply waking
up in the morning and not and leaving the phone off for 15
minutes and doing something that you enjoy doing and you
do that for two weeks. So to me, it's it's where
do I want to be and then figuring out how you gonna get there? And
you might need some help you might need to start listening to some podcasts.
You might need to take a course, but what
are those steps to get you to where you want to be and I
don't think you should be thinking five years down the line set baby
goals for from now to six months because when
you take that baby step
The difference you're making to yourself the people around you
are going to see as well. So that positivity right? It
starts to permeate it starts to spread. So this
baby steps make all the difference in the world. I'll go back to when I woke up
from my craniotomy. I could not even sit up in the bed.
Five days later I later I was going home. I
was walking back and forth to the to the lounge. I
failed my cognitive assessment before I left but that's okay five
days later and then a month later.
I was walking to the other side of town and back so baby
baby steps. Maybe you can take bigger steps.
Maybe you can do something in a day and then say hey that work for me
and I'm gonna move on but that mountain can
be climbed. You just got to do it one step at a time. And that's a cliche.
Oh, I don't like cliches, but that's what came to mind you've
mentioned a mountain. So yeah. No, I love
that. I think that you can actually look at look at
those big changes you want to make obviously, you know,
if you've gone through like a brain surgery and a brain
injury, you obviously have something to recover and you've got
to take steps to to literally create the
new tissues to create to create something new and I
think you could probably use that as an example of you know, like I've got
something here. That's maybe injured maybe I'm just like way too judgmental.
You know, maybe I'm a little bit injured in there. I need to heal that and
I need to I'm not gonna just do it right away. It's not gonna be overnight type
of thing. You know, I have to be delicate with myself and understanding and
empathetic so taking I think baby steps and
small steps is the key to making like
good quality habitual change rather than
you know, like like diets for example where it's like,
you know, you're just like try and make you're just change your whole life for two
weeks and then, you know, then it doesn't work out
right like it's the complete opposite of that and very very
valuable piece of information. Thank you and and
Not wait for the brick to hit us on the head, right? I
mean that's what I mean about being conscious if we can now right now
whoever you are wherever you are in the world, if you're listening this podcast,
if you can identify something that you want to work on in
terms of your emotional health intelligence your overall
well-being your physical your mental health if you
can do that now and not wait for the door to
slam in your face or something like I I had to endure for
a year. Wow, you're being proactive for
yourself and everyone around you don't wait.
Yeah proactive is a big key to all of this and can
you tell us about tell us about your book series because I
love books I love stories and yeah, let us
know a little bit more about that. What are they called? What are they
for just just really quickly. I I my niece
was in her master of Social Work program and I was really
bothered after what my daughter had gone through a why like how
this is happening to so many people around me. Why how can
we be proactive and I called her while I was a walking and I said Amber, will
you write a children's book series with me and she was
blown away. And so we now have the third through three
books of the five book series done. It's called The Power of thought
we created a fictitional planet with
I with beings that are not identified by gender
the planets made a crystals. The beings are
all named after crystals and every single book teaches in a
really fun fun way and evidence-based strategy. So
the first book is called I have choices. So basically zirko
who is the main character in
the book flies out and
People playing a game that he's obviously gets
very worried about and that's something that every child can relate to
but then we take zirko through by teaching
a series of all, right. Why are you
feeling worried identifying what it is? And then what are
the possible choices you have and then we walk walk them
through the possible choices and the book ends with zirko making
a choice and feeling great about themselves. And then
the second book is what I'm thinking true. And that's about all the all the
stuff in our head that we've got a weed through some times
in a process to do that. And the third book is I
can check my senses and checking your senses if
you can get into a routine and we try to teach children this of I'm
going to identify five things around me that
I see what we're doing is we're bringing them to a state
of being present.
And mindful and so that's a strategy and then
it's I can call my mind and if you and the second
book and yeah, we're very very excited about it.
We'll see age group for those books while the reader aloud
is great for four year olds, five six seven, but we're finding the
this children that are really taking in the strategies and and
everybody's different right everybody's at a different development until age, but eight
nine years old is is excellent and
the adults are giving us the feedback saying thank you.
We didn't know we didn't know how to do this. We didn't
know the how to teach our kids these strategies. So, I mean
that was a surprise to us and I shouldn't have been because you know, as I
learned from my niece the social worker. I learned a lot of them myself
too. So
Yeah, that's really cool. We're great way for you to
be able to connect with your child and go through those together and learn
together and and do that in a
like non emotionally volatile space
because there's sometimes usually when we're aware of the emotional states
of our children is when it is in like a wild place and
that's just kind of like the worst time to educate or teach
or sit down and do those things. So it's very wonderful wonderful
to be able to do that. Where can
people find that book and working people connect with
you.
They are at anywhere books can be bought but
my website limaglachlan.com if we actually
have a holiday giveaway right now where we're giving away three books with
a set of crystals. You can sign up for that or if you want
personalized books. You can order directly from my website or through
Amazon Barnes & Noble anywhere that
you can buy books. And if you're an Essex County Ontario, they're in all
the local bookstores too. Well, that's awesome. Thank
you so much for sharing that information and I'll make sure that there are
links in the show notes of people can can get on top
of that and learn more but Lyn, thank you so much
for coming on to True Hope cast today. I really appreciate your time. Thank you.
My pleasure my honor thank you very much for having me. Of course.
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