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okay Dr chance welcome to True Hope cast thank you so much for being with me today with for being with us how are you

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what's going well oh everything's going well just got back on the from vacation

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was floating around the southern seas and around Tahiti for two weeks and uh just pretending to be a fish and

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hopefully the fish wouldn't realize that I was you know not a predator and just let me float with him for a while so got

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to see the Southern Cross being in the Southern Hemisphere and the Milky Way and chilled out and got my batteries

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recharged to come back to finish out the year beautiful that sounds lovely lovely well can you let us know a little bit

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about who you are and what it is that you do please sure so I am a chiropractor and I come

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from a fourth generation Chiropractic Family actually my grandmother and grandfather started Palmer College of

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Chiropractic 100 years ago this year so in 1922 they started Chiropractic

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College and then my my father and my uncle both became chiropractors myself

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my older brother and my younger brother are both chiropractors two of my sons

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are chiropractors and two of my nephews and I have a cousin in Australia and then my one son who's a chiropractor

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married a chiropractor a lady chiropractor we have you know I think we

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all drank the Kool-Aid you know we all said we were going to do different things I was going to law school and

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going to be a United States Senator and my uh my son was going to go to medical school and whatever draws us to things

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and uh is what is our in our Essence we were all drawn back to Chiropractic and

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and I'm glad every day that that's what I'm doing so the traditional

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Chiropractic practice is mostly structurally oriented but D.D Palmer and

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when he wrote the book The Chiropractic adjuster in 1910 said besides structure there is also

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biochemicals what you call toxins and also Auto suggestion which is emotional

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and so applied kinesiologies which is the way I evaluate systems believes in

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this Triad of Health structure chemical and emotional and imbalances can come

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from any one of those sides of the Triad you can mean any condition I can tell you a structural reason I can tell you a

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chemical reason and I can tell you an emotional reason how do those three things align with

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like conventional medicine especially that emotional piece well you know you what happens I I think

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the main problem with modern medicine today is over specialization uh used to

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be in the United States back in the 1950s you had a family doctor he knew

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about you he knew about your kids he you lived in a small community he knew your crop was late your mortgage was due and

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your kid was in jail he knew something about what was going on with you now these days what happens and you have all

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these Specialists you go in you say you know my right elbow hurts and they say well we need to have you say the

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orthopedist well you're also getting some radiation of pain down the arm well you probably need to see the neurologist

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but well it's swollen too well you probably need to see the rheumatologist and you know besides that I've got some

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digestive upsets they get you to the gastroenterologist and if nobody can figure you out they assume that it must

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be in your head and they send you to you know the psychologists so there's nobody

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traditionally that's looking at the whole picture and so I see my place in

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in in this whole system is somebody who sits back and listens and in one of my

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forms it says when's the last time you felt good and what was happening were you going

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through a divorce were you starting a new medication did you have a trauma and so so often you can see when a

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particular problem starts there is an aggravating factor that triggers it now

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I also believe in what's called genetics and epigenetics I think each of us when

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we were born were given a hand of cards by our parents who got their hand of cards from their parents who got it from

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their parents and so there's Tendencies to have depression there's Tendencies to

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have anxiety there's Tendencies to diabetes your tendency for all of these things to occur based on the genetics

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you were given but then what happens is they may lie dormant and not cause a

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problem until something comes along and triggers them and so there's an interesting um they they always thought that the

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nuclear material around the cell that wasn't part of the cell itself they even labeled a DNA junk and they now know

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that that DNA junk is 4 million switches that turn on and off the cell and so we

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think that it is in the hypothalamus where these switches get turned off because of some type of stressor a

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chemical stress and emotional stress or physical stress that's super interesting I wanted to

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certainly talk about the hypothalamus because I know that's a lot of your a lot of your passion a lot of your work goes into that especially with something

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called the hypothalamic reset technique um and I find it so interesting in

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regards to your your what you're saying to me about the how we've specialized so

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much that it's actually severed that Dr patient relationship because yeah as you were saying like I think that's so

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fascinating that when we were in smaller communities your doctor would certainly know about the intricate parts of your

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life which without question change your emotional experience and therefore you

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know your physical body as well so very very interesting um point that is but before we jump into

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the HRT can you just lay the foundation the groundwork for me in regards to like what is the hypothalamus why it's

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important and maybe you can reconnect a little bit about that um the junk DNA

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switches on and off piece you were just referring to sure so the hypothalamus is called the

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brain of the brain the things it controls is amazing this isn't my idea you can look up WebMD any of the

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medical journals and what it does it controls neurotransmitters it controls moods it controls appetite and digestion

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it controls the endocrine system thyroid pituitary adrenals they control sleep

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cycles it controls anxiety depression it controls so many things and so when

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these switches get turned off that's a term I use these switches get turned off then in balances that were there

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genetically tend to reappear what we think happens is probably the

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best definition is it's cell receptor resistance just like with a type 2

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diabetic the insulin may be there but the body can't utilize it the cell has

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been turned off to the utilization of the insulin we think that also happens

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with neurotransmitters that would affect depression we think it happens with mineral absorption we think

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it happens with zinc and digestive imbalances we think that all those food allergies where people can't eat wheat

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can't eat dairy can eat nuts can't eat all those things are really in balance with the body's ability to digest those

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foods and it comes down to zinc so and then the endocrine system we see so many

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people that will give an example of imbalances that occur when something

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happens with their cycle let's take a a woman a a young lady and she's 14 years

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old and she has the genetics of the father of having some ADD ADHD

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neurotransmitter problems and all of a sudden the hormonal cycle starts and she

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becomes hyperthyroid medically they want to destroy her thyroid with Synthroid put her on destroy the thyroid with

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radioactive iodide and puteron Synthroid and so what has happened is those cell

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receptors have been turned off to the absorption of iodine so we reset a neurotransmitters we reset her iodine

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and in one visit she was normal she didn't have to have her thyroid destroyed you know on the other end you

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can have a woman who said you know I never felt well after the birth of my

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second child what happened cell receptor the body sees this hormonal dramatic change

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occurring with birth it thinks the hormones of the problem and it turns off the switches to the hormones and so what

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you have to do is reset the connections for the control of the hormones and the hormones themselves and we see that all

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the time when people will tell us I felt fine until there was an event and a hormonal event

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menopause starting a variety of things like that so the hypothalamus being the the brain

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of the brain and you believe like a lot of the disorders that we see within our

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culture that are just getting more prevalent are a result of maybe like the body at a cellular level not being able

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to accept or receive these you know very normal chemicals be that neurotransmitters absolutely absolutely

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that is the foundation of my belief is that there's cell receptor sensitivity

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that is caused by some event now it usually is going to trigger whatever

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your weak link is it's like an example if you took 10 people and you subject

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them to stress and four people got headaches and three people get ulcers and two people got hives if you took

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them 20 years later and subjected the stress the same people who got headaches would get headaches say people got highs

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would get highs the same people that got ulcers would get ulcers people have a genetic tendency and so what happens

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with this is it's not random once I know the genetics of the family I

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can almost predict what's going to happen because you know that's where there can that's where their weakness

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lies and that's really telling of course if you're able to like as a family doctor

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be able to recognize through generations of of the family like that's obviously a very very important pieces of

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information and we obvious obviously see you use the example of type 2 diabetes

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we see the how the body can actually down regulate receptors to to not

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receive and not be able to saturate the cell with insulin for example as it like normally would so we obviously see that

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phenomenon in the body and would you say like um stress is like a prime

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um driver of that down regulation for whether that is absolutely absolutely

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and it can be emotional stress it can be chemical stress or it can be physical stress can be any of those any of those

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things and what we have you know we go back to genetics I have been in practice 44 years and in my first year of

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practice I noticed genetics I had a family we used to have a family plan if you bring in all four members of your

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family at the same time I'll charge you one fee will keep you healthy and in this particular family

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the mother and the son looked the same they had darker skin they had darker hair and had every imbalance known to

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man they ever had allergies to weed to Dairy to everything and the father and the daughter looked the same it looked

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like they're from Norway they had light-skinned blonde hair nothing hardly ever wrong with them the mother and the

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son were the same the father and the daughter were the same and now we can quantify it you can look at these

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genetic symptoms surveys I used to before I was smart enough to figure out the genetic symptoms survey if there was

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a very difficult patient I would say can you send a symptom survey to your son to your daughter to your to your sister and

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let me see what runs in the family instead of having to do that now I have a symptom survey that says do you have

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any neurological disorders such as depression anxiety ADD ADHD how about

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your father's family mothers family siblings or children and it goes through that for about eight or ten different

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things including digestion anxiety insomnia

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thyroid endocrine issues and so if you can see what the Tendencies are you can

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pretty much know where to start because what we do is like bowling if you hit

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the head pin you get a lot of points you know almost with every patient that comes in my office I'm going to get

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points sometimes I don't know where the head pin is because I don't have enough

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information and so if I have all the information I'm pretty good at figuring out where it's coming from but there's

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often especially men tend to be non-disclosers you know I asked this

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gentleman this is about a couple of weeks three weeks ago if he had any problems with the depression or and

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anxiety and he said I know and his wife turns through and says what do you mean she said well I've got it under control

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how about anybody in your family know she says well how about your sister she committed suicide because of depression

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your son's bipolar he's ignoring all of these signs and the clues that would

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give me see what else to do yeah and so that's wild yeah it is and uh he's

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obviously not disclosing that information to you luckily yeah within his own reality like within his own mind

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he's probably you know not not taking that as a as reality either so that's

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that's a very interesting process for men I mean talking about mental health or even Sexual Health with a man it's not an easy thing to do in a in a

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practitioner sense or it's not something we're super comp super comfortable talking about yeah I teach this stuff

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and I I have a symptom survey filled up by Michael from South Florida and I show that symptom survey and then I show a

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symptom survey filled out by Michael with the assistance of his wife it does not look the same at all what do you

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mean you don't have that you complain about that all the time you know so women are taught to pay attention for

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the most part I'm I'm making a generalization but but you know a little

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boy he falls down he's playing soccer he he uh he uh scrapes up his knee it's

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bleeding a little bit his father rubs the dirt off and says get back in there and uh you know you know no pain no gain

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you know like a mentality football military mentality and a little girl oh poor baby come here let me give it a

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kiss and put a pink Band-Aid on it the women are mostly paid are taught to pay

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attention to symptoms and men are taught to ignore them and I've done it myself I almost killed myself a few times in

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athletics uh literally uh because I've ignored warning signs that the body was

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trying to give me so that example you gave of the um the Sun and I think you said the sun

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and the the dad or and the mum and the you know the Lord and the father and the daughter okay so the and you said the

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the the mum and the son were the ones who had all these conditions and all these issues going on right so what's

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the what's the treatment basis there like when you've got 40. this is 40 years ago and so we didn't know the

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hypothalamic reset back then and so we would do structural Corrections we would give them because they had a lot of

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allergies would give them nutritional supplementation to support the liver and adrenals we would give them those type

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of things okay after a while I learned allergy elimination techniques which would add that to the protocol and in

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the past 11 years that's been supplemented with this hypothalamic reset which we think is much more

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powerful in getting to the root of the cause amazing well if you if you'd be kind enough to just tell us a little bit

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more about what the hypothermic reset technique is where did it come from whether that originate you said you've been working

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on that for 11 years that's something I think you've got a book on it right which we can talk about as well yes yes we were a book on it it was uh we've

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always known that the hypothalamus was important I did some major um work with the fibromyalgia we have a

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fibromyalgia video out that teaches chiropractors how to treat fibromyalgia and we knew that the that in about half

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the cases the hypothalamus was involved now this is things we did about 15 or 20

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years ago what we now know is in every one of those the hypothalamus was involved we just weren't able to figure

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out how we could bring it to fruition to show it and so the hypothalamus that's

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up there trying to make decisions it's always doing something that it thinks is good for you the body is never is never

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is never doing anything that it thinks is bad for you it is trying to heal you

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24 7. every day of the week every month of the year and what happens is is sometimes it

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makes mistakes not on purpose but just like let's take autoimmune what is autoimmune body's

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attacking itself why would it do that why would it attack itself it's a mistake

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it's just like friendly fire in a battle so if you're in the Foxhole with your

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friends who are your comrades you know and you're in this war and all of a sudden a firefight breaks it out and

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there's a lot of smoke and there's no good reconnaissance the general isn't there to tell you what to do you're

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trying to protect yourself and so you're shooting to protect yourself and by mistake you shoot your friend you didn't mean to

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shoot your friend that's what autoimmune is the body is trying to protect itself it's made a mistake and it's attacking

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itself yeah is that a state of confusion is it

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a state of when you say when you say like a biological mistake what are the circumstances in which that that may

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arise and yeah if you could touch on that usually happens when the neurotransmitters are not working well the neurotransmitters are the way that

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the body communicates so without the neurotransmitters working you're having a battle without the

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general without the reconnaissance and so you're going to do whatever it is to try to survive

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when you have the neurotransmitters which is the brain connectors which is choline and acetylchava biotin serotonin

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that's what that's the number one thing we reset the most important thing that

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we do is to get the brain working with you if the brain is working with you

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everything else becomes much much easier so that's the first thing I check on

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everybody is to make sure their neurotransmitters are intact and if it's not I reset those and so we

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have a list we've been doing this now for 11 years we have the computer program that has been from day one we

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have I think uh now uh 3 500 patients with 25

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000 treatments with pre and post symptoms surveys in it so I can tell you what the number one treatment is the

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number two treatment I can tell you how many times I've done anything you mentioned I can pull up on the computer

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and say I've done neurotransmitters 2500 times I've done zinc 2600 times and I

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can tell you the top 10 the top 20 everything I've done more than a hundred times and so it's not random is not

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random now again you may um have a skewed result depending on the

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patients you see let's say that you decide to be a digestive specialist and you only want

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to see digestive disorders you're going to see a heck of a lot of problems with zinc if you decide you want to be uh treat

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people with ADD ADHD the kids are having so much learning difficulties you're going to see a lot of neurotransmitter

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problems if you see if you if you treat women with hormonal imbalances you're

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going to see a lot of thyroid adrenal dysfunction so you can have numbers at a

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distorted base on your particular practice and what it's skewed to in our

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Chiropractic practice uh and and most probably 75 to 80 percent of our

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patients are women the you would think well you know you're a structural guy you're going to adjust

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their back and and you're going to see the men because they're going to come in with a hurt back you know what's

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interesting is men tend to only come in they come and say Doc I hurt my back yesterday I'm supposed to play golf

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tomorrow get me straight you know women come in many times and they they will

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say I don't know why I'm here I just don't feel well men hardly ever come in with that so women are in much more in

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tune with just not feeling right it almost takes a total collapse

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for men to know that to have a problem and that it's me included I was in

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practice early on in my fourth or fifth year of practice and I knew it was under stress I was seeing 250 patients a week

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I was working six days a week I knew that there was some things going on and so I decided to go to a seminar down in

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South Florida and I was going to go to the hotel and I found blue on the beach and spent a little time on the beach go to a couple seminars but mainly relax

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and so I still worked that morning I still couldn't give up working that morning so I drove down and I uh when it

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I thought well maybe I'll go for a swim just to relax in the pool and so I tried to swim in the pool I couldn't turn my

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head I had meningitis you know it took me finally to relax to realize I had probably had meningitis the whole week

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wow you know so it is you know and and it's an interesting statistics if you

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look at when people go to emergency rooms it's often on Friday night they go

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through the whole week they get through it and they say oh my gosh I get the weekend to relax and oh my God what's

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this pain they got appendicitis attack you know so they've had in imbalances all week but the body is pretty good at

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handling acute stress and then finally when it relaxes it tends to collapse you

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know so the um the widower will get through the funeral they'll make it

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through and they'll do all those things and and make it through and then they'll collapse later on the student will get

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through finals and get sick over Christmas break you know the body is really good at handling acute stresses

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and then finally if it doesn't not able to release those stresses then it does

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collapse interesting can you tell us a little bit about how you actually test neurotransmitters sure so there's a few

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things that will happen when your neurotransmitters are not working well all right so a fluorescent light has a

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vibration to it rather than an incandescent light that has a constant stream I have a view box because we used

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to have x-rays that were filmed and I'd put them up now we have digital X-rays and the only reason I use my my view

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boxes for testing for the neurotransmitters if I turn on the fluorescent light and I check a muscle

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you'll go weak if your neurotransmitters are not connecting that's why so many kids have problems in

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school these days you know when I was a kid there was one kid in my class at add now you talk to teachers probably 30 why

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because they're under fluorescent lights were cramming all this electronic stuff in their brains when we got home from

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school we rode a bike or played football or did something else now they come home and get on their iPads you know so this

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electronic Bob Barman is really stressing our children and so that's one

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way the second way is we do not think there's a problem with the left side or the right side of the brain we think

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there's a problem with the communication between the sides of the brain so if we have a person sing and they stay strong

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and they count and they stay strong and they muscle goes weak when they sing

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with numbers then we know there's a misconnection with the connections because so your

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right brain basically uh is controlling your musical

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side of the brain your left brain is controlling your arithmetic reason or rational side so when you try to do both

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you're trying to have them both you when you're trying to sing with numbers you're trying to use both at the same time and so and then also it's called

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neurological switching as we walk certain muscles will release um to as you you know when you step

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forward with your left foot your right arm should release to go forward that's a normal gait response what will happen

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in a person who's neurotransmitters are not working is it'll be exactly backwards the wrong muscles are not

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releasing so that's the three tests we we see then we put neurotransmitters in their hand

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and if they're in if their body isn't receptive to that they'll go weak and then we reset it through the

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hypothalamus which is a use of spinal reflex points and acupressure points

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while they're holding the substance and the hypothalamus or while they're doing the activity and holding the

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hypothalamus so the first thing we would do is we treat them while they're

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holding the neurotransmitters and hypothalamus we do the reflex points and then we check them while they were

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reading just had one in a couple hours ago we had her read she went reading so what did we do we reset our hypothalamus

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while she was reading she also when she tried to when she was under multiple stimuli when a lot of things were going

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on it was playing music I was having a dancing in Santa Claus making noise and I was asking her questions all at the

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same time and she said this is much like my home I've got six kids at home or whatever I said maybe not quite as bad

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but your brain couldn't take all that information at the same time so we reset her brain while she was doing that

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activity wow and that is an actual um

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is that like a manipulation you said acupressure like you actually this is a very very easy tapping points

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this particular ones T1 T8 T12 L3 and L5 we use a dual prime activator you can

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tap them and there's there's eight acupuncture points and but it's not like a manipulation like you consider a

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chiropractic adjustment where you're making a Thrust it's not like that so that stimulating neurological bed that's

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along the sides of the spine interesting it sounds like much more of like a a subtle approach to oh it's very

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it's very subtle people people say have you done anything for me today and I'll say you'll know

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walk out see what this notice and do you think this is something

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sorry carry on please I was I was gonna say uh

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sometimes people are very desperate I had as one lady who came in and she had been through every treatment for 10

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years and her husband had been going around with her and she was just desperate and she said to me the first

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visit if you don't help me I'm going to commit some of suicide I've tried before but I haven't been successful this time

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I will and So within two visits she's doing much better and so her husband Corners me and I said I know she's doing

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much better how do you know Doc is not psychological and I said it could be and

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just tell them up front whatever you think my psychological is doubled my regular business so if you think you can

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pay double if you want and just joking with him but so people will know it

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looks like what we do should not have that much of dramatic effect and I

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understand that and that's why we've done I had a opportunity it was about

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about a year and a half ago I had a person who specializes in neurology uh

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be willing to drive up four hours round trip to do some pre and post testing on a patient of mine that I'd never treated

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before and so David who is 42 years old had ADD and ADHD had depression and

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anxiety at insomnia he had GERD and ulcerative colitis he was a freaking

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mess and so um we uh the the neurological specialist

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did all his brain mapping and did also reaction times how quickly he could react and then he tested him for an hour

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and a half and then I did my treatment which lasted 20 to 30 minutes and he retested him he said the results I got

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in that 20 or 30 minute treatment if he had been treating the patient for two or three months he would have been happy

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wow so a lot of the stuff we do doesn't look like it should work but if it's the

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problem it works and that's you know what you always have to say you talk about do you treat this or do you treat that I do not treat anything I don't

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treat any disease I just treat people with bad diseases so you have a patient

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I don't treat thyroid issues but a patient has an imbalance that's affecting their thyroid I remove blocks

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and let the body try to balance itself that's super interesting that you say

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that you have that neurologist come in and you did a 20 30 minute treatment and he said that that would have taken him

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maybe two to three months to get to that result what would he have done in the two to three months that's different to

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what you're doing mainly Chiropractic work and he also he specializes in

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trying to stimulate brains with other types of activity he really uh he's a

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chiropractic neurologist who who would would be using lasers and a variety of

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other things to stimulate brain activity would you say would you describe your

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Technique kind of just a lot because you use the word reset in there right like actually just allowing the body to

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um do what it does best and just to put it back into that put it back into its best situation to be able to do that

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rather than just trying to change a bunch of different things to try and treat or to try and heal

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I'm not trying to change anything I'm removing blocks that are keeping the body from making Corrections itself yeah

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you know so it think of it like a short circuit I don't rewire the house I just find where the short circuit is and we

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reset the circuit breaker you know I tell people when they come in when they're really a mess I think you said

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think of it this way lightning hit your house everything's been blown what I'm going

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to do today is I'm going to turn on the main circuit and then what I'm going to do is I'm going to go room to room to see if those

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circuits are working is your computer working is your TV working is your this and the rooms that I go to are based on

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the patient symptoms survey and based on new genetics because it will give me the

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rooms that are most likely to have the circuits blown

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interesting interesting um what does the actual like is there a lot of literature and research in

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regards to HRT and disease treatment in that HRT I'm I'm there the originator

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of it and so the the book we just published is is one of those uh things

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to get it out to the public I want it to be pretty secure in uh the information

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that we had um and and and having that many treatments over 10 years we've been

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refining it all the time and we're discovering new things all the time but to say that you know I think the next

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probably thing that I think would be very interesting is to take an add an

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ADHD kid and do a brain uh uh a a motion

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MRI of their brain functional MRI of their brain while they're reading let me reset them and

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then test them what the what the changes are when they're reading I think that's sort of the New Horizon of although

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that's not going to be cheap to do but I think that would be the next Horizon another thing you could do you could

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take two classes of kids and you could duplicate Road treatments on one and not Placebo treatments on another although I

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I hate to have anybody waste their time I would be doing placebos I'd rather do

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um if I'm going to treat somebody I want to do what I think is best for them I'm not I'm

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I I do I keep research records but I'm not a researcher okay I'm a clinician

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who has some research behind it do you think that you that that your work would

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would meet some maybe resistance in regards to looking to actually do some good quality research behind it I say

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that because doing a 20 30 minute manipulation so not not manipulation doing a 20 30 minute reset treatment

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um would be a lot you know if that actually worked and showed really really good evidence which you already have yourself but to do that to make that

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more mainstream that would certainly come against you know all the all the medications and other treatments that

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are being conventionally used for the things that you're treating so one one you know and we tried to do

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some research with fibromyalgia and I did do a research study that was published in the Australian journal and

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then also republished in the Florida Chiropractic journal what I find as a

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problem is in research you want to isolate one factor you just want to have

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one thing that's wrong and you just identifying that one little part so that

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person that has ADD they need to have the neurotransmitters

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reset they probably need to be reset while they're reading while they're writing while they're doing math they probably need to be on B12 they probably

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need to be doing anositol they probably need to do an exercise cross-call patterning so what I'm really testing is

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not one single Factor I'm checking a protocol and that's what I did with fibromyalgia I said all I am doing is

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the one of these two cranial faults an anterior Atlas and using one of these five nutrients

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and that is it that's my protocol and I can show you dramatic results with a protocol I think it is hard to prove

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holistic medicine because in basic research you're only looking

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for one factor I think it's bigger than that and so I think I'm gonna maybe make

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a structural adjustment I'm going to make a chemical adjustment I'm going to make an emotional adjustment I'm going to do a protocol that can be limited but

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I think to prove holistic treatment using a single entity

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testing is a mistake do you think that everybody could

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benefit from having a hypothermic reset I don't know that everybody needs it

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um I I have people that I've TR that have tested that don't need it um uh

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there are very few people who have serious imbalances that don't need it

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and there's you know there's no child who has ADD that does

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not need it there's nobody who has anxiety that does not need it there's nobody who has uh

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a variety of things hormonal stuff that does not need it so they're um there are people who

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are doing fine don't need Chiropractic adjustments don't need better nutrition don't need

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anything else but they're rare and it's also too is what you you know health is

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a Continuum all right so Health somewhere between zero and dead and 10

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perfect health is a three three and below is what is known as disease and that's what we

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focus on we focus on disease let's say you're at a seven are you healthy yeah you're healthy but

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are you as healthy as you should be so that's why a symptom survey differs than looking at just the thyroid function I'm

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looking at the Tendencies for the thyroid to be in balance and so when I tell a patient that there is uh I'm

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finding some imbalances with the thyroid they'll say well and I've been to the thyroid doctor and they say it's fine I

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said yeah how do you feel look at your symptoms survey you feel tired you feel wired your thyroid hormone is okay if

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it's not getting into the cell I'm going to reset your RNA and see how you feel were they in the disease State no

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eventually they would have gotten into a disease State and then the thyroid expert would have done something it

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would have put them on Synthroid or some other medication but what I'm really dealing with is in the health ring Realm

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I am trying to make people healthier and once I get into a disease State they may

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need modern medicine um but there's so many people that could be so much healthier than they are right

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now yeah it's remarkable the amount of people that yeah will will go to

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maybe extreme extreme lengths of going immediately to a pharmaceutical or even a surgery or something like that before

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you know it well a lot of people don't even know that these types of options exist and that's kind of why we're having these conversations to spread the

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word to spread the information that there are some quite wonderful powerful things that we can do there are a lot

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more or a lot less invasive to the to the human body and it makes total sense

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that you would you'd be taking this holistic approach and having you know that using these symptoms surveys to to

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completely assess somebody's you know emotional state psychological State and physical state so so important that

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we're actually taking those uh taking that type of approach to to Medicine you know we have so many patients that

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are on medication I had one in uh just this week 16 different medications

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wow you know her kidneys are is overloaded to try to get rid of the toxicity liver is under stress she

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hasn't gotten into a disease state yet but she's you know I don't know if the

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problem exists in Canada like it does in the United States but

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there are so many prescription medications given the United States uses 75 to 80 percent of the world's

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prescriptive drugs and yet we score a 16th out of 16 industrial countries in

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our health index I mean we are medications are needed but

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we are overusing them I mean it is they give you something for everything I had

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a lady in just the other day her cholesterol was a little elevated 209 but her HDL great she had a great ratio

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they wanted to put her on statins I mean we we go overboard and um and so I think

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that if we were able to reduce the amount of medications there are some that people have to stay on life-sustaining medication I'm not I

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never tell anybody to get off any medication that's not in my license that's not what I do and what I do is I

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balance them as best I can I say now go to your medical person and ask them how you can phase off which ones are

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absolutely necessary which ones can you try without and let's get you off of

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this stuff because there is no medication that does not

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have some effect on the body's elimination systems and toxicity even I

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had a guy in here he was an end-stage kidney failure over-the-counter Excedrin

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you would think something over the counter Camp called you kidney failure this Excedrin for headaches you know so

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these people are taking these powerful medications they don't even think twice about popping these pills all the time

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and because oh I've got this my doctor said it's good for me I need to take it

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and I think that uh more and more doctors and it's a small part right now

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but more and more doctors are becoming more holistic and trying to say let's try to get you healthier let's not just

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automatically put you on a medication but there there are doctors out there that think statins should be in the water it should be like fluoride you

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know everybody should be taking a stab and it's one of the drugs that we see most of the side effects from weakness

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in the legs inability to walk you're tired all the time and they say well I'm just getting older yeah yeah you weren't

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that old two years ago before you started to stop and so I don't take them off the status but I get them on some

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nutritional support to um to help with the kidneys elimination the toxicity and

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then ask them to go have their first of all tested and talk to their doctor about getting them off unnecessary

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medications how do you think we've got into a position where

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patients or this to say pharmaceutical consumers are just willing to take

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something over the counter without thinking about the potential side effects or something like that like you're talking about this kidney disease

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just then like how we got into a position where we're not asking better questions

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you know I think there's you know there's a trust that if you go if you go into a doctor's office I think if you

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ask the person um are you going to get something for your problem they would say yes they

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expect to get a prescription here's your problem here's a prescription this will take care of you and so uh

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if you had come in with a complaint let's say it's a headache

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we're going to give you a medication for your headache all right instead of figuring out why you've got a

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headache and so it's much easier for the doctor if he's got a busy schedule and he's

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going to spend five minutes with you write the prescription here's something for the headache it or for your back pain or anything like that you know I I

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can tell you your headache is not due to Excedrin deficiency I don't think

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anybody has an Excedrin deficiency you know we think it is caused by another imbalance and

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it is harder to figure out why those other things are happening

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um and I think it's it's better for the patient to figure out while this all started happening you know I had a guy

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come in always had headaches um and we would have thought if it was a woman we thought it was menstrual cycle

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because about the 15th of the month you'd always come in with these headaches and so what we finally figured out he was an auditor of the company and

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they were doing the books and auditing at that time it was all related to stress and so what you had him do is say okay

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this time of month you you don't get enough exercise anyway but this time of the month you've got to get out and walk

42:22

every day you've got to you know take some extra B12 for your brain helping neurotransmitters and but you need to

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exercise to dissipate the stress what can you do to get you feeling better so

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you don't have to become dependent on a medication yeah well said thank you

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um before we finish up can you tell us a little bit about your book The Power of the hypothalamus please sure I'm not my

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gutter right here I'm sorry and it's available on Amazon and of course people buy it in my front

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office and type of stuff it is I think an easy read um we intentionally made it not for a

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doctor but for a patient it is patient stories and so people will go on the the

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developer of neuro emotional technique Scott Walker I do a lot of emotional work when I sent him the book and he was

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reading through it his first reaction was exactly what I wanted other people my grandson needs this you know so he

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saw something in a story that he saw either in himself or

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somebody else and so the um I actually took out you know we worked

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on this book when you read the book you'll say well how come it took you two and a half years to do this book it's

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because we took out probably 20 chapters oh wow we took one whenever it started

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to get a little bit boring we sent it to a number of different people we said okay what's the purpose of that chapter

43:50

did it well that was really interesting well did it really lead the patient to

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where they needed to be and I've had people come in and said I didn't put it down I stayed up all night reading it

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just because we think it's that interesting that people when they start

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reading it um just they could see the stories and

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um and what you need to know is as I'm not a writer I'm a Storyteller but my

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wife is a writer and she says I didn't edit your book I rewrote your book so you took it and put it into the words

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that and then my my Wednesday nine o'clock patient is a New York Times three times best-selling author he wrote

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the uh the untethered Soul Oprah win uh Winfrey's favorite book of the year and

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I've read that yeah and he's my nine o'clock patient he took the book under his wing and

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he would come back and he said I had to really change this chapter and I'd look at it and say I only see one word change

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he said yeah but that was a very important word so they're words missed you know I can

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tell you stories like we're doing today and I'm pretty good at that but you know I I I kid uh people that English is my

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second language it's supposed to be my first but uh knowledge about serial commas and worst things are supposed to

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be is not my expertise so uh if you read the book I think you'll appreciate the

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both my wife and Mickey and how they uh our Craftsmen and putting words together

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and Mickey would say if at any point when you're reading you have to stop and

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you're distracted because it didn't make sense you've lost them and so every word

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and so he went through past he said to go through passes we went through passes in this book 10 12 times in each chapter

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and uh it was a funny story my uh my wife took more Liberty in one of the

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chapters that she rewrote and Mickey came back after reading it who wrote this chapter I said well I did but my wife

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um it took more Liberties but however we write them all she said these are much better so I know I know my limitations

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and and I know what I'm good at what I'm not good at and I'm pretty good at

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storytelling um and they're much better at writing and so I think those combinations have

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made it a pretty interesting book I think that I have not had anybody who

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has read it that did not have um glowing remarks about what it told

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them and um you know I mean you know it would be how do patients know that their thyroid

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can be hyper and hypo at the same time cap can you be tired and wired how can you be so tired but you can't sleep you

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can't relax that's a condition but medically they'll never figure it

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out because your thyroid check's okay on the lab work and so that's one of the problems that's happened with medicine

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is that um the gold standard of whether you need to be treated is whether a lab shows you to

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be off and so if the lab doesn't show anything you don't have a problem it's a pull

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metric fibromyalgia went under the screen under the radar for so long and

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you know all these patients in 1950s were getting B12 shots from their doctors or family doctors they felt much

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better than modern doctor came along so you don't need anymore I can show you your B12 is fine and I can show you in

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nutritional almanacs that the level of B12 in the blood and the cell may be

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different and so lab work at the exclusion of what the patient tells you

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is a big mistake and I think that's one of the mistakes that we make in our

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evidence-based care evidence-based care is not just research it is what the patient is telling you and what the

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clinician itself finds to be valuable in that case wonderful well what how what's the

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where's the best place for people to connect with your daughter chance

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best way because then you can see the whole sort of thing is www dot chance

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that will take you to the website I'll tell you a little bit about me it'll tell you about the courses for

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practitioners who want to learn this it'll tell you that to order the kit to

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do the testing but it also takes you directly to the Amazon site to order the

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book perfect well I'll make sure that that information is in the show notes so

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people can connect with you but I want to say thank you so much for coming onto the show and really enlightening us into

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so many different aspects of of Chiropractic Health of conventional health care and especially touching more

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on the on the hypothalamus and that reset technique super super informative but thank you so much for coming on the

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show I really appreciate it I appreciate it too it's going to start having me talk about health it's hard to stop me

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so yeah that's good that's good you've obviously got so much passion and inspiration behind it so that's really

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really cool and that is it no thank you well that is it for this episode of True

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hope because the official podcast of true hope Canada I will make sure that the links to connect with Dr chance are

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in the show notes I'll put a link into that book as well the power of hypothalamus but uh don't forget to

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