Guest Episode
August 27, 2024
Episode 7:
Mindfulness, Meditation & Mental Health
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Dayley Harper is a Registered Acupuncturist and Oriental Medicine Practitioner.
Dayley studied Acupuncture, Nutrition and Traditional Chinese Medicine at Pacific Rim College, in Victoria, BC. Dayley has a particular interest in mindfulness, meditation and Buddist Spiritual Medicine.
In this episode we discuss the fascinating domain of Buddhist psychology, Mindfulness and Meditation.
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today registered acupuncturist and Oriental medicine practitioner daily
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Harper daily studied acupuncture nutrition and Chinese medicine at Pacific Rim College in Victoria BC a
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quite fabulous institution that has come up many times in this show Dy now lives and practices in Vernon British Columbia
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D's got a particular interest in mindfulness meditation and Buddhist spiritual medicine and this is the
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fascinating area that we're going to kind of dive into today the Buddhist psych psychology yeah that's where we're
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going to kick off our conversation and see where it takes us I'm sure we'll go
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down many different wonderful Avenues so first of all daily hi welcome to the
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show thank you so much for being here how are you I'm doing very well my friend thank you so much for having me
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no it's an absolute pleasure thank you very much we're just finishing off this cop two months um series of chatting to
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practitioners and how they apply their practice to um the realm of mental health and kind of learning a little bit
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about different practices as well so we're very excited to um have you here to to talk to us can you start by just
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telling us a little bit about your journey in becoming a Healer and an
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educator yeah um I think like most healers we
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make our way to this path by going through some kind of our own healing we've come up with some kind
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of mental or physical disease or imbalance in our own bodies or we've seen a family friend or a family member
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go through it on their own and it kind of draws us into starting to question what is health what is happiness what do
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these things look like so when I was in my teens I started to experience some intense anxiety and depression that just
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started to get more and more alive in my life and I didn't know where to turn it turned into OCD and then an
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eating disorder actually which spanned probably about a Whole Decade of my life and from there I think that really
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sparked my interest in nutrition first of all so I started studying nutrition I
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went to Vancouver started studying nutrition and started applying the idea that
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physical nutrients will affect not just your physical body but your mental body as well well your mental health and that
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was the first time I'd heard of that that was well I don't know 15 years ago now almost it was 17 I think at the time
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and um I loved this idea and it felt so powerful to be able to manage that
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anxiety on this level of nutrition but it wasn't enough and so I started to see
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a little bit of a shift in the way that my mental health was balanced and wanted
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to go deeper so I got introduced into Western herbal medicine moved to Victoria started studying there
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introduced into acupuncture started studying acupuncture and then was introduced into Chinese herbal medicine
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and I ended up doing the entire doctorate program at Pacific room College in Victoria BC now all those
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things combined together were amazing so the nutrition the Western herbs the
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Chinese herbs and the acupuncture I started to see my anxiety my depression my addictive behaviors around food and
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my eating disorder start to shift in a dramatic way where felt like I was
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regaining some of my health but at the same time there was still something
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missing and I couldn't quite figure it out and one day I was at a Chinese
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medicine seminar and I was asking questions there was a Q&A at the end of
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the seminar and the topic had kind of gone from
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Chinese medicine into philosophy and I started asking
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questions about unconditional love and and emotions and addictions and how all of these
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things contribute to our mental and physical health and someone walked up to
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me at the end of the seminar and said if you have questions about addictions and emotions and mental health you need to
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go see the Monk and they like handed me this little it was quite magical handed me this little piece of paper with a
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phone number scratched on it and that was it and I was like what the hell is a monk the monk yeah I was like the time
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had no idea hadn't been introduced to meditation yet shockingly um and didn't know what a
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monk was and turns out this man this brilliant man became my mentor for the
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last decade at least now um and trained me in the practices of mindfulness and
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meditation and what I love to call not stress management but stress realization
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so we're not trying to control stress you're trying to really understand the root of your stress the root of your
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anxiety and depression so you're not always just managing it on the surface as these things arise you're getting to
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the very juice of why it's there in the first place and uprooting that for good and that transformed my whole life
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wonderful very cool makes sense yeah an know totally it's uh what I think Super
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interesting about most wonderful practitioners is they've totally gone through an
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experience themselves as a you mentioned and I'd love you to tell could you tell us a little bit about how your education
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and that application of that education to yourself helped you heal and helped
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you become more conscious aware more mindful of what the thing things that maybe have you have done in your past
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and those subconscious habits that sometimes rule us how that education piece helped you come to that
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realization the education you mean with the mindfulness training or yeah well anything I mean you say went to you you
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know first of all you studied nutrition and that kind of blew you away because of you know nutrients and and how they
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affect your body and then you stepped it up a bit and then you step and you couldn't get enough you know like it's that I think for a lot of people when
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they step into taking their own education into their own hands and they start to learn more and they start
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applying that to them themselves then they start to heal and then you know they become teachers and become healers
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and that's definitely the best way that people do it so how did it for you long-winded question but how did that
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educational piece cuz I think we hope to inspire people to really take their own health into their own hands and step one
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of that is is becoming educated and becoming aware and you know reading books and exposing yourself to new
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things how um how did that help you heal personally because it sounds like before
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when you were you know you you had some you had a lot of things going on how the educational piece help you
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out there yeah so I think as they say knowledge is power and I really feel that and felt that in the beginning when
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I was suffering and struggling so much mentally and physically with my health I didn't have any knowledge therefore I
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didn't have any direction to even begin to move in I didn't have any tools or
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any understanding of what mental health is and where it comes from and how
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someone creates mental health versus a a mental imbalance let's say or um what
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negative emotions are versus a positive emotion and how these things are created so as soon as I started to study even
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nutrition and get an understanding of how certain micronutrients create certain hormones in your body which then
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are precursors to molecules like serotonin and dopamine which create things experiences like love and joy and
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things in your life putting all those things together I recognized oh my gosh okay A plus b equals c so in the
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beginning it was very helpful because you can say well if I choose this
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prepackaged new nutrient void food or if I choose this
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whole nutrient dense food it's going to give me these certain building blocks which create inflammation in my body or
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I'm going to choose the food that gives me these certain nutrient um building blocks which create what I need for
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dopamine and what I need for serotonin so understanding that was extremely helpful in the beginning that knowledge
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just recognizing that wow these different things affect my experience in
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life it affect my mental health that was just so powerful cool yeah I mean as you
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say like before knowledge or before a certain level of understanding a healthy food and a good
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food that's put them in quations you know they could they just they just look like food right yeah but with knowledge
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and knowing exactly kind of like looking at the label knowing exactly what those ingredients are what they do and don't
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do for our bodies yeah absolutely you can't you can't even start to
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contemplate that cast in your head without knowing exactly awesome so I'd
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love to learn a little bit more about what Buddhist spiritual medicine is can you kind of give us an introduction to
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that yeah and I caution myself also using the word Buddhist
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because I'm not technically trained as like a Buddhist practitioner in any way my training was happened on a living
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room floor in someone's basement um in Victoria and
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my teacher was very I think intentional about not coming at it from an angle of
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labeling it as Buddhist psychology or Buddhist spirituality it was just about
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what how can I communicate these practices and this
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understanding about life so that people can apply this and live happier and healthier lives it wasn't about well
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let's define sure this style of meditation or this or whatever so I imagine a lot of intellect uals people
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that have studied Buddhist spiritual medicine or Buddhist psychology in University are going to have a very
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different understanding of it and description of it than my understanding and description but essentially the
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premise of Buddhist spiritual health is
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that every practice
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that is taught is taught with the
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intention to understand yourself more deeply on a mental and physical
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level because on that level of understanding they say that is where you
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release yourself from conditioned ideas around who you are and you become in touch with who you actually are
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and from that place they say true healing happens so healing comes from a root
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word in Latin or something which means Halen which means to make whole and that
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is the whole idea around Buddhist spiritual medicine is we're making whole we're not cutting off parts of us that
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we think are bad we're not trying to get rid of negativity we're not trying to get rid of depression we're trying to
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fully come to understanding these things so that we can see them for what they
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are and integrate them into our wholeness and not personally identify with with the negative things that we
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think or experience and see ourselves for what we truly are something so much more than that and that's where we find
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our healing and holess does that make sense absolutely yeah I think that's um
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I think it's a really difficult thing to explain and I think you did it really well you say there's going to be levels
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of spiritual medicine from so many different cultures all around the world world and essentially I suppose they're
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kind of talking the same language in regards to to a goal of being able to kind of block out and
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separate yourself from the external things that we think make us the people that we
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are but obviously we've got this true authentic beautiful gorgeous self which is very very different from the
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personalities that we exhibit on a day-to-day basis and finding that thing is very very enlightening can you can
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you tell us a little bit about what because I we hear the word mindfulness a lot
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and I'm I feel like I'm quite familiar with what mindfulness means to me on a
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personal on a personal level but what does it what does it what what does it the word mindfulness mean mean to you
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and how would you kind of open that up to to somebody who's very unfamiliar
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with the Deep the Deep rooted pieces of meditation and
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Consciousness so meditation mindfulness is a style of meditation and meditation
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is kind of a poor translation for a word known as bavana in Sanskrit terminology
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so Sanskrit is one of the most ancient languages of India um and a lot of Buddhist script and things were tra were
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originally um written about in Sanskrit or or a language called
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so this term bavana which references our version of meditation translates to mental culture
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or mental conditioning and mindfulness is just another branch of mental conditioning so it's a specific
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meditation practice that conditions your mind to be a certain way essentially um
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now mindfulness itself is a wonderful style of meditation practice of or mental conditioning or mental
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cultivation I should say is a better word and mindfulness is simply being aware of
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what is that's it it's about being
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present with all of your senses with feeling tasting touching
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smelling anything that is happening here and now that is what mindfulness is it's the
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practice of being aware and I find this one extremely help
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help ful for clients in the beginning because you don't need to carve out special time for this practice you don't need to be sitting on a pillow in a dark
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quiet space to be able to use this style of meditation practice you can use mindfulness at any time you can be
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walking to the office and being meditating essentially using this style of meditation called mindfulness because
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it's about simply being aware of the weight of your feet moving along the sidewalk that's a style of meditation
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called mindfulness yeah that's beautiful and yeah becoming mindful becoming conscious
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becoming aware especially in the present moment we hear the word present moment a lot as well connected with meditation
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and mindfulness and for me in my meditative practice and becoming a little bit more conscious and aware of
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where my thoughts go What feelings I'm having and what behaviors I'm exhibiting
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and making trying my best to make sure that I am actually conscious and in
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control of those rather than 5 years ago you know my thoughts my emotions and my
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behaviors were very much subconscious very much just happening to me without really any thought you know I
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would a lot of and this goes for a lot of people especially when it comes to trying to change habits because you use
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the word mental conditioning and that's you know that's about strengthening and
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creating and cultivating different Pathways in your brain to get to a different different
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conclusion and you know if we're waking up in the same side of the bed and we're sticking our slippers on and we're going
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to brush our teeth and we are going to put the kettle on and we are going to the fridge and you know we're doing all
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those things all the way up until we go back to bed again a lot of these things were just kind of like walking through and our subconscious mind has learned
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those behaviors so so much that our present mind is doesn't doesn't need to
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be involved in those type of things we're just we're just going through yeah yeah and if we want to change a
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particular thought feeling or behavior to reach a different outcome whether that's to find more joy or find more
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happiness or find more you know anything um we have to start becoming aware of
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the thousands of little things we do every single day that just slip past our conscious mind and um we just end up
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doing them and yeah yeah and I yeah yeah I think your explanation of mindfulness is wonderful there do you have anything
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else to kind of add onto that we I love yeah I love what you said about how
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everything we do most of the things we do anyways I would say a huge percentage of what we do every day is subconscious
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we're not actually paying attention like how many times do we drive to work and not remember seeing a single tree or
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person or we don't even know if it's cloudy or sunny outside because we're so consumed by thoughts in our mind we're
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planning we're thinking we're doing we're reviewing that argument we had with our spouse before we left we're not
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actually in living in the moment at all and my mindfulness is such a good way to
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break up that cyclical P the cyclical patterns that we've created for ourselves in our lives and just reset
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come to the moment let everything go and then choose where do we want to put our
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attention in energy is this story that I was thinking about about two minutes ago
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is it serving my highest good or is it creating more stress and anxiety and making me feel out of control
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mindfulness is becoming aware of those things rising and pausing and saying do I want to continue to invest in this or
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not and then bring you into the present moment and maybe in a different direction it's so helpful that way I
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love it absolutely what do you think are some of the biggest challenges when it comes for people
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becoming mindful because obviously becoming mindful or meditative or conscious at some point would have been
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a normal thing for most people I think um especially when we're going about
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thousands and thousand thousands of years you know it was a very very common practice that probably most people did what do you think of the challenges that
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we have in like 2021 people have got you know we we don't have this uh Consciousness or
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awareness to become conscious and aware I think one of the big things that I run into with myself personally and
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with clients is that we're so obsessed with IDE an idea of a future self we're
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TR always trying to get somewhere we're trying to get more or be more or have more so it takes us away from the
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present moment the present moment doesn't hold as much power or interest even for a lot of people because Here
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and Now depending on what their ego mind has told them they need to be or have or
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do Here and Now doesn't give them what they want and so they're constantly projecting themselves out of the present
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moment they're not attracted to being here and now and paying attention because what they want and what they
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think they need in order to be worthy in order to be successful in order to be smart enough they need to get in a
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future self so they have to constantly be living in their minds around what should what do I need to do next who do
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I need to control what do I need to focus on in order to get what I need we're all coming from this place of not
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being enough or not having enough and I think that is a big barrier to being in
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the present moment I remember when I first started meditation I hated it I
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absolutely hated it because a lot of addictions as you
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probably know are founded on this idea that Here and Now who I am isn't enough
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there's something in me that's lacking or missing or is suffering and I need to
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get away from who I am now in order to be somewhere more comfortable right they're pleasure seeking habits that's
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what addictions are so you're always seeking some kind of pleasure because here and now you're not comfortable
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enough and when my teacher first started to get me to do mindfulness practices and medit ation practices he said okay
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day start with five minutes of sitting and breathing and just being anytime a thought arises about you trying to
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control your marks on that exam or trying to control your food and you're eating disorder or your body and your
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body image or any of those things just let them Float by and bring your attention back to your breath and I had
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so much anxiety around that practice my ego said no you cannot sit here and be
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still for 5 minutes because you will miss out on what you need to control in order to be good enough you will miss
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out on controlling your body you cannot spend the time sitting here because what you actually need to do is control your
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food or what you actually need to do is study harder so you can get better marks on that next test so I ended up starting
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my meditation and mindfulness practice with five seconds of sitting I literally
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could only sit for five seconds before the pain of that ego voice rising in me
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became overwhelming and too much that I had to get up and kind of participate with it so it took me a long time wow
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yeah I think um yeah super true and I think everyone who's ever really got serious about
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doing meditation yeah has always got a similar story in regards to how difficult it is to sit with your own
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well just sit with yourself and try and become you know like no one in no place and no time yeah there's there's people
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out there that like go to the gym and like Crush go hard for an hour but you sit and do meditation for an hour
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without your with your without your awareness slipping that's that's so so
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much more difficult that's true strength right there yeah it's the struggle I think in our culture the difference
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between being and doing we're so conditioned to be doers and that
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associating our internal worth with how much we do and how much we achieve and
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when we move into a mindfulness practice that says oh no we're going to let go of the doing for a bit we're just going to
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be the ego freaks out and the more identified you are with that ego image of yourself and how much you still have
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yet to achieve in life the more uncomfortable your meditation practice is going to be for sure brilliantly put
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yeah exactly Society is definitely put us into this position where we have to be you know the busy
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the busier that we think that we are the more success we're having or you know the more we're contributing and the you
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know the the the go go go of like actually having things to do and you know creating things to do rather than
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actually actively creating space where we're actually doing nothing and as you say
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like going to the gym and pumping it for an hour is very very different to
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sitting with yourself for an hour and making that time for you to actually become aware of like what's going on for
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you inside and was obviously so so much stimulus happening in our external world
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it's very very difficult sometimes times for us to actually separate our internal from our external world and a lot of
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it's a lot of the things that happening around us really kind of control where our thoughts go what
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emotions we exhibit and what behaviors that we do so yeah yeah there's so so
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much going on that's and I think that's why it's a massive massive tricky thing to do in Western culture is to sit and try and meditate and and go inwards
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because we're so unconditioned to do to do that and so we have to we have to train to do it if you want the amazing
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fruits that come from it mhm we have to kind of go through it a little bit on that that's exactly it um in regards to
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your own practice what benefits have you seen in your clients when you introduce
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mindfulness and meditation into their lives yeah that's a major part of my
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practice in fact sometimes I have people come in and the majority of our treatment session is discussing
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the mind and is discussing their attachments and how they mental habits
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and behaviors are contributing to their current state of physical and mental health and
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so with my clients when I introduce mindfulness practice to them or these meditative practices or self-inquiry
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practices the first thing I see happen for them is they'll come back
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and ex explain and experience of calmness that they've never had before calmness is a huge one where they've
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just pressed the pause button on their kind of rat race kind of life and they
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feel peace for a moment so I've seen a anxiety dissolve for people I've seen
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decades long experiences of depression resolve for people I've seen people tuning
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into yeah a general sense of calmness and peace that they've never experienced before and it's so
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beautiful I love that that's my favorite part yeah that's great just allowing
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allowing that person to give themselves permission to step into a different personality a
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personality that doesn't consistently have anxious thoughts or somebody who doesn't have an depression or anything
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like that yeah just and that just giving that person a little bit of a taste of that is I'm sure often very much a
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um The Catalyst for them taking this practice outside of your office into into their own lives I've seen a lot of
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people too even come back and there'll be things that they weren't even aware of in their own life and that
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we didn't even discuss in the treatment room like issues in their relationship or something and they'll come back and they be like d I've been practicing the
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pause and becoming more mindful of you know my attachment to these anxious thoughts arising and I just breathe and
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I bring my attention to my breath and I let those things go and they'll say you know I come home from work and I'm less
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reactive I didn't even know I was reactive but I'm noticing now that I'm less so and my relationship is
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blossoming so it's very cool yeah what I love about meditation that's becoming
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more available to more and more people is that there's so many different applications and ways that it can
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connect with a certain individual it's kind of like um I don't know some people
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like doing Yin slow yoga or some people like going like really hard and doing the Hot Stuff there's so many different
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amazing teachers out there who teach kind of the they all teaching this pretty much the same thing but they do
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it in different ways that connect with different people because we will learn in different ways um and that's you know
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that is available to everybody like right now like the amount of meditation really good quality meditation apps that
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that are available that you can just kind of like go for and just have an introduction to and find something that
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um connects with you yeah it's it's super mainstream now and you know if you go to go to PubMed or green Med info and
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you look at the scientific data for meditation on changing people's brains
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to become more coherent to start healing things very very quickly um yeah the
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amount of science connected with meditation right now is astounding and rightly so because you know there's a
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really interesting um bridge between science and like the mysticism of of
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meditation and and Ancient Ancient practices that we've kind of just got
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distance from over in a little while but I think these things are certainly starting to come back and it's great that we have practitioners like you
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where people can go and have conversations and learn a little bit about the practice what's going on for them personally and then having
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something having a tool like meditation and being guided through it which is obviously a really important part when
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you're going to make any changes to have have a support system there with you that's just that's great that's great
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I'm sure all the people that come and see you are really really thankful for you allowing them
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to find that present moment and find out what is going on for them that they that
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that that they really want to work on to improve and they I think that's really awesome what um what effects on the mind
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and body do you think meditation has oh man I mean it's huge it's a
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massive question maybe in your in your in your practice in your experience like what have you seen you know because
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obviously I think when it comes to to meditation and S and sitting and thinking and then we have that
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agitated you when we start meditating we we have this ad agitated feeling in our bodies to get up and go and do something
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for me that's kind of like the mind and the body are just not communicating you know the body is certainly taking a lot
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of people through their days without our mind being really engaged but meditating
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and it's a really really strong strengthening thing to do and really
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difficult thing to do to really align the mind and the body to be able to sit
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still and then kind of reassess you know what's really going on in the mind and kind of creating that still illness it's
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a very difficult thing for people to do yeah I agree um yeah so in regards to
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like the benef I mean there's many many benefits of meditation but what have you seen in regards to Let's kind of focus
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on maybe the mental health aspect of it what the the real good benefits of sitting meditating and starting a
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practice and those benefits and effects it has on the on the mind yeah on the Mind specifically one
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of the greatest things is like I said just a sense of calmness people really
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lack a sense of groundedness I think because we're all trying to move so fast in the world and we don't realize how
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exhausting that is and when people start to meditate and they're like oh okay I feel like I can relax I can breathe
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again I'm finding calmness Clarity of mind is huge so many people live in chaos and inability to make decisions
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and they lack Clarity and when you can just stop and step out
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of the cyclical thoughts and see them for what they are your decision-making capabilities improve dramatically so
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calmness Clarity of mind um less stress and anxiety in general
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people see huge reductions in just general disease and discomfort in their
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day-to-day even if they wouldn't necessarily label themselves as an anxious person or a stressed person I'll
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still give people mindfulness practices and they'll come back and say I enjoy my life more I feel more fulfilled and it's
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it's not because they had an anxiety disorder and now they're feeling more calmness there's just something to being
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present that fuels you that's different than just chasing
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happiness yeah and it's so far from like a a Hokey Pokey thing you know when you when you do have this practice and
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you're meditating well you are literally changing your biochemistry to to create
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balance and to create coherence and that's kind of what the body really really needs in regards to repairing and
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healing and the fact that a lot of people um heal some in some many cases
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physical things wrong with their bodies that you know can be described as
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in as incoherent frequencies these begin to heal very very quickly because we're
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able to put our mind and our body together and we're actually by chemically changing ourselves in a much
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more positive Healing Way exactly yeah and it's it's so profound and so
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powerful I think that um more and more people actually becoming um beginning to
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understand that mental health especially of anxiety and depression is so much more than just kind of the old school
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theories of biochemical deficiencies and simple genetics what factors do you think are
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important to discuss and focus on with your clients um that that those people that are experiencing mental health
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concerns yeah I think in my practice anyways I start
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basically with recognizing their nutritional deficiencies because often when someone is struggling with some
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kind of mental health there will be some physical deficiencies for sure so I look at their diet I look at their lifestyle
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I look at their history of antibiotic use which can disrupt microflora which as everyone mostly knows now is the
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bacteria throughout your digestive tract which govern immune function they govern mood hormones and all kinds of things
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inflammation in the body and so I look at all of these things and understand okay what kind of
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micronutrients could you possibly be missing that are not allowing you to form these certain building blocks in
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your body so that's where we like to start because that feels more tangible for a lot of people and then once we get
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their body kind of more physically grounded and more
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accepting of treatments and moving forward with their mental health then I
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introduce those mindfulness practices and um one of the things I stress in my
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clinic is the importance and not the importance but the power of your mind because I've seen a lot of people even
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come in that are athletes and they eat really well and they train every day and
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they're doing all the right things so-called on a physical level to produce
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these happy chemicals in their body and they're not experiencing happiness and they're not experiencing fulfillment and
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they're not experiencing love or connection or joy and one of the things I think is really powerful and important
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to know is that your
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conditioning and your habits around how you use your mind can override the
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physical chemicals in your body so just like you mentioned the word frequencies a minute
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ago emotions have certain frequencies in the body emotions have a certain vibration like judgment inner criticism
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negativity those types of things that we're all kind of prone to at some point or another in our lives they have a
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frequency to them that can actually affect physical hormones in your body like cortisol like dopamine like
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serotonin and make it a lot harder for you to experience things like joy and peace and love so it's a combination I
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think of being aware of your physical deficiencies and what you can and cannot control on that level and then also
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being aware of how you're using your mind on a day-to-day and is it serving
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you to become more joyful and more connected or is it harming you because you have a pattern of self-doubt and
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self-criticism and negativity and that kind of thing and how can we shift those in order to create a healthier happier
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life for you cool yeah and I know you've got a really big focus on Digestive Health in your practice and yeah we
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can't you can't be talking about mental health without talking about its intimate ties to the gut and I know you
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just mentioned briefly about kind of about that connection can you talk a little bit more about you know our gut
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the health of it what we're eating and how that it's got a very very close connection with how how we think and how
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it's connected to the mind yeah there's a term I don't know when it came out maybe two decades ago already called the
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gut brain access so it they've noticed in Western science now that there is a big correlation between what happens in
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your intestines or in your digestive tract and what's going on in your brain chemistry so mood hormones um serotonin
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for example as everyone knows as the happy chemical in the body 80% of it is
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actually produced by the bacteria in your digestive tract so depending on what food you're directly putting into
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your body and how that is influencing that gut bacteria or microf Flora it's
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going to result in how your body produces or doesn't produce those
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certain chemicals does that make sense ABS absolutely yeah and um we've not actually done a particular show on the
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microbiome yet or the microflora in the gut and um I think for a lot of people maybe you could just kind of introduce
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that idea yeah so the gut microbiome um is the word that you just used love it um or gut Flora again is it
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refers to the environment within your digestive tract most people think oh the intes Ines are just there to break down
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and absorb nutrients and then it gets sent to the rest of the body and then maybe the brain makes your mood chemicals right that was the old idea or
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your liver does certain things in the body but so much activity actually happens right in your intestinal tract
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right in the environment of your gut so and the way that the gut is regulating
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these things is through the bacteria that actually exist there so depending on what foods you eat you will Nour
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certain bacteria and not nourish other C other bacteria depending on what Pharmaceuticals you take or like
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antibiotics for example they wipe out a lot of that gut microflora or bacteria
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so then it makes a lot of those jobs like mood regulation like inflammation regulation like immune response
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regulation a lot more difficult because those are jobs of the gut microflora or the gut bacteria themselves so there's a
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lot of different influencers on that environment when it comes to food or Pharmaceuticals
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or what we actually put in our body that then will affect the outcome of our mental health and how our body can
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perform in that way yeah so yeah hu I mean the microbiome is a is a huge huge topic and
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kind of relatively relatively new to a to a lot of people and the science is
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still in its infancy in regards to you know the three to four pounds in so many
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cases of bacteria that and other microorganisms we do have a lot of fungi and viruses that live live in Synergy
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inside of our gut that are super important towards every aspect of our health and as you say they're super tied
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to our um to our cognition and our mental health and you know we are kind of not necessarily what we eat we're
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kind of what we absorb exactly yeah and the bacteria that we do have in our G
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you know they've got thousands and thousands of different jobs and creating neurotransmitters and and is one of
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those huge roles so yeah it's absolutely what we're eating what we're drinking the
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Pharmaceuticals we take even to the extent of like how you were actually born into the world and how long you
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breastfed for these things play a huge role into the potential Integrity of your of your microbiome and these are
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things if you're talking to an naturopath or a nutritionist or a Chinese medicine doctor these are
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certainly things to to be taken into consideration and as you say like antibiotics that are in circulation kind
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of everywhere um these things do wreak havoc on our um on our gut Flora but there are so many
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things that we can do in regards to our diet and our habits and supplementation that we can do to strengthen that flora
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and if we've got a good happy gut we're going to have a much we're going to have a much better potential for that to um
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Ascend into our mind as well it's really interesting when I was in Victoria um
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and doing a little bit of clinical practice there there were I saw a lot of mental health patients as well that's kind of where my mental health
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career kickstarted I suppose and a lot of schizophrenia
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um schizophrenic symptoms were being presented in a lot of my clients some
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with diagnosis some without and the turning point for almost every single one of those clients
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was focus on gut health we would do probiotics we would a lot of them had history of antibiotic use a lot of them
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had um poor diets and poor Lifestyles that contribut to sluggishness in the digestive system a lot of them had
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corresponding um IBS symptoms and all kinds of things and as soon as we started to focus on that I remember
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doing so much abdominal massage on people just simple abdominal massage and they' say day for the next five days my
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symptoms reduced by 50% it is huge wow that's really cool yeah it was really
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cool yeah um I mean off mean true hopes Flagship product and power plus you know it's a broads Spectrum micronutrient
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that has been break broken down so much that it's so super absorbable that people are able to obtain the nutrition
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that they're unable to do through food and some people experience remarkable things in days and it's a simple case of
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just getting those right building blocks ex into the bloodstream around the body so the body can do what it wants to make
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you feel awesome I agree cool well that kind of wraps it up for today daily thank you so
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much how can people connect with you at the moment my platform is Instagram
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uh daily Lane d a y l y l a y n e very
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simple I'm there every day talking to people answering messages privately and on posts and stories and all kinds of
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things mostly on Mental Health that is my jam on mindfulness meditation so if
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you have any questions please find me there I'd be happy to chat perfect yeah
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we will put all of that information in the show notes so if anyone wants to check that out and connect with daily they should certainly do so but thank
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you so much for joining us today um I really appreciate your time um yeah it's
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uh it's so nice to connect with people who have been to a Pacific Rim and people who love meditation and mindfulness and it it's always inspiring
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to know that there are other people out there trying to um well being there to
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support people to make these different transitions to let them know how how
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kind of easy it is to feel great and they deserve to do so yeah so thank you very much again
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daily thank everybody so much for listening this is true Hope cast the official podcast of true hope Canada I
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hope you've enjoyed this episode we will certainly see you again next week goodbye thanks Amon