Guest Episode
July 27, 2022
Episode 74:
The Unicorn in You with Josh Kramer
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Joshua Kramer is the author of The Unicorn in You, a personal growth and development perspective that emphasizes five key principles as the foundation for peace and joy.
Today, Joshua and I will discuss finding peace and joy, as well as discussing the unicorn in you.
Alright, good morning Joshua. Thank you so much for being with me
today. Thank you so much for joining. True Hope cast to have
a conversation. How are you doing today? What is going? Well, I'm
great Simon. Thank you so much for having me. It's great to
finally be with you and looking forward to a great conversation. Wonderful. Well
as an introduction what it just let our audience
know. Let me know who you are. What is it that you
do?
Sure, so I am based in northern New
Jersey not too far from New York City and by profession
I am a real estate
guy. It's funny how we always kind of identify ourselves
by what we do but I never really look at it
like that too much because I am feel like
more of a learner a citizen of the world always looking
to grow always looking to improve and I think
more recently I've really took
a step in that direction with the new book. I've written what's helped
me especially but also to hopefully help others
Incredible wonderful. Well from your
website, you are a personal growth
specialist. That sounds like that's what that's the kind
of the image like that I get across there. And yeah, I
was just interested to learn a little bit more about what does
that mean? What does that mean in Europe in your particular
fields and how you know how you've gained the
experience to assist people with their own
personal growth. Obviously that
that could mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people when
we all have different areas where I
suppose we want to focus our growth because there's obviously
we're you know, we're much more than just our business. We're much more than just
our family or a relationship. So for you and your work,
how how what does the personal growth mean?
I think for me it starts with this idea that
as humans were always looking to improve but more
really to evolve and really to grow.
For so long. I think that I forgot that
piece of our development in
life as we've gotten better as we've learned the
idea is really for us to grow and I've
struggled for a long time in my life
and always leaned on this idea of self-help.
And trying to understand how we can maybe just
help ourselves improve and I think that distilling it
down making it even more simple and just the idea. Is that
how do we grow? And so when I talk about personal growth it's
the idea of finding something within us that's
true to us. That's more authentic that almost
Roots us in a foundation for being
rather than doing and I think ultimately that's how
we get to a source of growth in our lives in
growth comes in a lot of ways, right it can come from what we
do on our work what we do in our personal lives
that fulfill us, but really they're not mutually exclusive.
It's all one in the same. How do we grow as a human
being?
That word authentic is very interesting because I
feel for a lot of people if you were to ask them. What
what what's your authentic self?
You know, what is your authentic self want to do to grow? You
know, what does that look like? I think because we're so
wired to be controlled a little bit by the external world and
I'll you know in our little groups within our culture
as a huge Society. We kind of get pushed
in certain directions because you know, we want to fulfill our
role in society, but that's not really getting through to our
like internal core.
Authentic self. So how do you help people filter through
that that trouble because I'm sure
for a lot of people that can be quite difficult because we don't spend a whole lot
of time internalizing figuring out what it is that we
truly like one for ourselves because we're not
really wired like that in our society. How does
that how does that work for people? It's so well said because
I think authenticity sometimes gets misused
in the idea at least for me when I think about being
authentic it's what's inside of us and then what
we reveal to the outside world.
And it can be that simple but really it
has to do it really has to do with being true
to ourselves. And so when I think about how
do we get to authenticity to me? It has
to do with openness openness to what comes in
our lives and not trying to control like you said every single
element.
And I think it really starts with having.
a foundation
and understanding of what really drives us and so
in my book The Unicorn and you what I talk about is these
principles because I feel like we all have them they don't
necessarily have to Define us. But ultimately they inform our
behavior and inform sort of what we present
to the outside world.
And it says so much about ourselves when we're able to
be that principle that we are and I outlined
five of them which we'll get into but I think that's maybe the
first step of authenticity. It's defining our values our
principles basically saying, who are you and then
are you brave enough to be that person in the world?
how
how do people usually respond to that particular question because
it's a big question. It's date. Yeah, people don't usually, you
know, we don't have that conversation every day when
we meet our friends and family, right? It's really, you know,
when when you ask people. Oh, hi Simon, how you doing?
And people you know, it's usually just like yeah, I'm fine. How are you? Right usually
this we just go through this kind of like monotonless script
that we go through that like really getting to
the core of it. But that that question that you're
asking that authenticity base.
Such a beautiful such a beautiful open vulnerable
question. How do people usually respond
as you is there some resistance there or do you do you
have to coax that authenticity out of people a little bit guide them
there a little bit more coaxing and you're so
spot on because I think about this idea.
You know so much when we meet people or at least, you know in my
world off in the quit the first question is, what do
you do?
Not really. Who are you?
Or how do you spend your time? It's always about
rooted in kind of what we do whether it's for a living and really
asking you how do you make your money which says nothing
about us and I think that
to your point a lot of people sometimes are taken aback
by that because it requires so much vulnerability because
really what you're asking is who are you, you know at
your core deep down what motivates you what drives
you but what brings you peace and joy, which is really I think
at the heart of so much of what we're doing.
I think that you mentioned another word and we're
getting into all the great great words this idea of authenticity, but
vulnerability.
I'm a Believer and I talk a lot about this in the
book this idea of vulnerability. These days has become going
deep in all these things and they're much
in Vogue and I think being vulnerable it's benefits
are not really just for its own sake I think
what we can get from being vulnerable in answering
a question like that. If it's asked is that we're able
to identify these emotions and then not just in ourselves but in
others as well and that makes us more kind that makes
us more grateful. It makes us more humble and I think it
allows us to accept things a lot easier, too.
Yeah, that's a really interesting perspective. I love the idea
that
I think it's so interesting that.
I wouldn't have considered myself to be a vulnerable individual
until I was maybe 28 29 30
and that coincided perfectly with
me finding exactly what I wanted to do with my life. I wanted to learn about
nutrition and then I wanted to help people heal their
bodies and feel as awesome as I
did with my transition.
And people can't it's very very
difficult to people to be that vulnerable because
it's it's you have to kind of put so much to the
side. You have to put so much of what you've learned to the side.
So many of the personalities that you've created within your
within your circles because obviously we're so
so defined by the the groups
in which we you know connect with and
you know, whether that's a football team or a sports team or a church or
something whatever that moment may be and that's obviously very
important part of our culture is to be is to
commune and to be within these groups, but when it comes
to yourself and your true authentic self, especially if you
want to personally grow and evolve and change and and learn
new things, yeah, it could be very difficult to
be that open vulnerable and especially like
man like an open vulnerable man. Like that's not really
it's not really it's not really a word
that you would describe.
Most men anyway, but like I'm really really blessed my
vulnerability because I don't think it would have led me to my wife and
have the ability to deal with young children. You
know, it's it's very very challenging. So just
without vulnerability piece. Where do
you do we think do you think that we especially as
males you think we lose that as we get older and
go into school and things like that and we're told what a
man is. Do you think we lose that piece and we have
to refind it and we have to go and see Specialists. We have to
read books we have to do a lot of self work to refine to
refine that and vulnerability piece.
That's obviously so powerful in regards to
our own personal development. I think so and I'd love that
you share that. I'm wondering as you were talking about you finding
this vulnerability in your life towards the
end of your late 20s. Did you find that it came from
a place where you were ultimately?
Getting comfortable with what?
Your purpose was your mission all of these things that
you know, you finally came to terms with
was it an acceptance that you found?
On the inside that you just knew this was something and you
were able to then ultimately.
You know Embrace more than anything else because as we get
to our late 20s, you know, we've had some life experience, but
now we're getting into a point where like you're saying maybe you're having
a family and you can only be probably a better spouse and and
parent if you have or if you're more in touch with that did
that was it no surprise that it came towards your late twenties as
life events happened.
Certainly, obviously, you come to a certain period of light period of
time where you want to consider a family
and you want to consider your career. What are you going to do for the rest of
your life? Do you want to be doing that? Same job that you're doing in your 20s? You
know, I was I was a preschool teacher in Sweden and I really really liked my
job. I wouldn't say I loved it. I did
certain a lot loved certain aspects of it but a couple
of things happen to me in my late 20s where it really kind of break it
broke down belief systems. I had specially around nutrition and
food and fitness and weight and
What it what it took to feel feel good
and what feeling good really meant. I just had a
bunch of those belief systems just to completely eradicated with a couple of different
things that happened and it's to
start making me think differently and then I started thinking differently
about food and then nutrition and I was just starting to you know, fire and
wire new new circuits in my brain and that
addictive process filtered out into other areas of
my life as well. And I feel like I just started like breaking
down walls and was super open to being wrong and
super open to being incorrect about things and
you know got grasping new knowledge and
it was very very it was super addicting because I was
used I feel like I was starting to use my brain for its actual
purpose and it was beginning to evolve
rather than just being this rigid plastic.
Thing in my head. That was no already completely
programmed by the time I was 28 just
so many so many big changes started to happen for
me at that time. That's such a great share and I
appreciate hearing that because you said the word
open a few times and I alluded to before and I
think that when we're talking about the original question the idea of our
wiring is men are we resistant to
that to being open and I think so much as of it
use your spot on it's really open to being
wrong or at least to open to changing and pivoting
and shifting and not feeling
like we're anything less if we do decide
that this wasn't quite right or we need to go in
another direction or I just was not correct and
that's okay and I think so much of our
you know,
Our ego gets in the way all the time man or
woman, but I think for men especially there's a hesitancy to
admit when there is something not going right
and the power really comes from that vulnerability
to say it is and I'm happy to make the change.
Yeah, I always think about school and how school I
kind of messed me up and messes a lot of kids up in regards to.
You there's no there's a bunch of questions in the in the
book in the textbook and all the right answers. The
one right answer is in the back and you're not supposed to look at the back because
that would be cheating, but it's there anyway, but
And there's only one answer for like some of these questions when we
just know like when you go into the real world and you
know, you get a job. It's about collaboration. It's about not just
about finding one answer because that's not that's not
how that's not how the world works. You know, that's not how people work together
especially in a incredibly Dynamic business setting where
the you know, one thing in the industry can
completely evolve and completely change everything. So there's a whole
new
a whole new basket of potential opportunities and
potential answers to it. So I always think back to to that
and that rigidity that created as an
18 year old and then for another 10 years you just
believe that you know, there's one answer and if
you don't and if you don't know the answer, you should either just like lie or
be ignorant to the fact that you don't know the answer rather than being. Oh, that's
really I've never thought about that. That's interesting. Like tell me more about that. I
didn't didn't know that that was not a part of my knowledge before please enlighten
me and that just opens up my brain to actually
hearing that different perspective taking in that knowledge
rather than be like rigid to it and putting my defenses
up because you know, I'm 25 and I should know the answer
to all of these things already, you know, and that's not it's not
beneficial at any age. That's a
really profound memory because what
was coming up for me as you were saying that was my
feeling as a young boy and
as a student and I was probably the kid in class that was
more introverted. Someone gave me a great turn.
Raise the other night. I was socially comfortable but I
could be extroverted more introverted Tendencies
and I was the kid in class who would be
afraid to ask the question because exactly
to your point.
I thought there was only one answer.
And so I'm afraid of what could come from asking what would either
I would perceive to be a dumb question or the fact that I
don't know what that one answer could be when they're that's not
how the world Works their number of ways to collaborate and
work together and work through things. So I really I
love that because everything that we do in our
lives inform, you know, the future and going back
to how we are taught through education and you have the perspective of
having been an educator that it's really
it that's very powerful and I remember
distinctly feeling that hasn't see
to speak up for fear.
Absolutely, certainly isolates a lot of individuals that halt that
whole set up and rather the classroom being
this collaborative process where you discuss things
through and you create space where people can just
you know blurt out wrong answers and understand why that
might not be right or wrong or whatever. But yeah, it's
it's just a very interesting environment that
blocks a lot of creativity, but I don't want to just spend 40
minutes with you bashing the school system. It's incredibly under
resource. It is a lot of issues of that we
could talk about right another episode. That's another episode but
I want to I want to learn more about your book. So it's called the unicorn
in you what led you to
writing a Congratulations, by the way writing a book is no easy
feat. So, why did you write it and who's it
for?
I wrote this book.
I began the idea for this book around the start of
covid which now we're talking past two years ago.
I always say that this book really started many many
years before that. But the idea for it came around March
of 2020 and I had read a
lot of books that I considered personal growth and development self-help books.
And around the time of this real change in the world.
I was trying to draw from those books that I had read
and nothing came to me very instinctually everything
that I had read before which was wonderful
was always much of a process. It just
didn't feel very natural or organic.
And I said, how do I get this feeling of being lighter
right now?
And I felt like in order to be light.
I first had to be solid. That was the first breakthrough I
had and that allowed me to say. Okay. What makes me
solid. It's about having a foundation for being rather
than doing.
And so what I did was I started to think about some principles
in my life that mattered as we stuck started speaking
about in the beginning.
And I always began with this idea of kindness. I just
felt like there was always room for more kindness in
the world. And I knew that kindness also was something that gave
me a sense of peace and joy because it took the focus off of
myself.
And so from there I started to think about some
of the other principles and I really wanted to sort of just distill down
these ideas into almost a Back to
Basics perspective not a process, but just
an approach to say to folks what matters in your life.
What do you know to be true?
What do you know for sure and allow that to kind of fuel you
in terms of these fundamentals in our life that we can just
draw from much more naturally and organically that was
the impetus and what prompted the start of the book.
and you've spoken about these principles these foundational principles that
you obviously lay out with in more detail in the
book and you can give us a brief overview of that because I
think the foundation or aspect of any
Book that's looking to serve and look into support and looking
to help and guide people through something having that
like foundational process is very important for
a lot of people who are looking for obviously point
one of like where to begin from and I'd love
to know about a little bit more about that Foundation aspect from your
from the book.
The idea of that Foundation I think comes from having structure and
then ultimately a framework so very quickly the
principles that I outline and in many ways. I think I'm what
I'm trying to do is prompt people to think about which principles drive
them.
But what underpins my theory and thesis
is that kindness gratitude Integrity
humility and acceptance our
five principles that can lead us to
a greater path of peace and joy and from each
I take one sort of ingredient that I think that drives
each for kindness. That's about compassion for gratitude.
It's awareness Integrity. I
believe we need decency humility, which
I think is very underappreciated. I think perspective is
required and acceptance really has to do with flexibility. So
those five things with those five key ingredients
helps us get underneath and understand. Okay. Why
does this lead me to peace and joy and then
how can it help lead me to peace and joy, I try to make it very
very simple. There's nothing groundbreaking an earth-shattering
except the fact that it's delivered in a way that
I think
Resonates with people because it allows them to
just really simplify their mind about being rather than
doing.
Well, I think the web resonate there absolutely just
popped that me I think that those five principles you just
mentioned there. There's a commonality between
all of them and they all they all resonate an
incredibly High energetic frequency. Whenever
we are in a state of kindness or gratitude or
Integrity our our whole Aura.
Oh energy completely shifts completely changes
and there's some amazing people who know do
scientific studies on brainwaves and
regards to when people are in a stating the state of gratitude and
prolong gratitude and what that actually buy a
chemically and physically does to the human body is absolutely amazing
the research and that is just it's just incredible.
So that's really really cool that
You're starting the starting individuals out
and you and your teaching the big the foundation aspects of this book
from a really powerfully energetic Place rather than
a lot of people who try to let's just take
dieting for example in January every year people start
off that process with a foundation of
guilt. They start off with the foundation of probably anger
and jealousy other individuals, especially through this
medium of social media and
and that is a complete those are completely different emotional states that
carry a very different weaker energetic
frequency rather than starting it
from a position of kindness gratitude understanding Integrity.
These are incredibly powerfully energetic forces
that
Drive those initial changes that you want to make and we'll allow
an individual to really go through your book
and really go through it with with the high frequency
where they're able to obtain the information and be actually really excited
about continuing and
developing and what do you
think about that in regards to that those principles having that
that energetic connotation? That's probably
one of the most unique
And really positive takes I've heard on the book and what
I present because and I don't know that
I even considered it that way and what's your suggesting
is? I think very very powerful is that
When we do anything what is kind of underpinning it
what is driving it? And as you said January people
start, what's it coming from? It's not coming from
a place of positivity. Maybe it's that guilt could be
fear. It's not starting out in a
good place and that doesn't necessarily set us up for success. And
I think that's why someone asked me about the order of these it
was very intentional. I think kindness is key. I
just think that kindness is everything and it solves a lot.
And as I move into gratitude, you know, this idea gratitude
to me is the easiest principle to get started with it's
like, you know exercising you're working out.
It doesn't matter what you do just do something and I
think you know, I was always asking people what's your
gratitude practice because I think you also have to change it up a little bit and
integrity sits squarely in
the middle because I think that's just about being solid and
people think Integrity could be honesty or you
know other elements of it, but I think decency really
is what drives that and so these are all positive
things humility as I mentioned under appreciated. The
reason why I always emphasize that is because humility is
about perspective and for me it has to do with our
sense of significance, but even more so our insignificance in
the world,
And it really reduces the size and scope of
our self-importance and acceptance acts as
this anchor because acceptance then says, okay. I'm going
to root myself in reality.
I'm going to acknowledge. What is rather than regret
what isn't and I'm gonna use flexibility to
help drive this home because I can handle
conflicting emotions in my mind. I have to stretch or
bend or flex and and capability of
handling this and so, you know, I think
that's a long way of getting to something that you really highlight. Is
that where are you starting from? And in many ways this Foundation or principles
has to do with the foundation itself. Is it rooted in
something that's positive.
Yeah, that's really powerful. And I think that I think I
find it interesting that we absolutely need books
like this in our
in our world in our lives in the specially for a lot of for a
lot of young individuals who nobody spoken about the difficulties of
those ages. And we you know, we're we kind
of get stuck and bound to certain personalities
and we try and be the
person that we think that we should be based on our
external and it could be very difficult to recapture that
creativity that authenticity that we have as you know
quite young children that is just, you know, kind of it's not developed
really with with our school
system. So what do you think that why do
you think that
All people a lot of people need books like
this and need these foundational principles that
I believe that we all understand and know
but we need it's not enough to to
know these days. We have to knowing how how
to do something is a lot more important. So can you
what if your thoughts been around? I'm obviously when you wrote this
book, you bet a lot of books beforehand and you're pulling
together a lot of information with your own personal experience with your
own very unique wonderful take on all
of this. But why do you think that there is
this really die in
Need for this type of information and this type of framework? It's
a really good question because there's so much
product and material not just
books but in this space
And for me, I think that the need comes
from this idea of how do we
continue to grow exactly to the point of your first question. I wrote
this book actually for myself.
I knew that I was going to be struggling or I
was afraid of struggling. I wish I had written this book
many years ago when I really struggled I didn't
have the emotional resources do it. You know,
this is the book. It's not a big book and at
the same time it's meant to be a warm kind of guide and
this is the nightstand book that I used to like to always reference.
Those books though. They were a little more complicated and they
required me to say okay, I
have to do this then I need to do that and they
were very intellectual and very helpful. But
when I needed to come back to it, I couldn't
recall it that instinctively.
But I think anything that's have helped to us. That gives us comfort.
Is useful and so that's more broadly
why I think we need books like this, but why I
think this book connects with people is because it
really just says let's simplify this
let's let's go back to principles that are someone Universal
that are Timeless. They're not going to go out
of style and allows us to just say, okay. How
do these play into your life? And if you do just
this if you just think about the things in your life that
matter
Could you relieve some of that burden and
weight that we carry and reduce some of that anxiety? This isn't
a book about finding your purpose or finding happiness, which
used to be my goal the broad?
Audacious goal of I just want to be happy but this is
deeper. This is about peace and joy, which I believe is
about Harmony. It's about contentment and in many ways
a lot more manageable.
And I think depending on where somebody is when they pick this book up
whether they are maybe struggling with.
The business side of their life or relationships whether that's
the marriage or friends or family or self-care
personal development type of
things. I think that it's not specific to it
any of those areas, but it will give people that kind of
understanding and catalysts to recognize what
they can accomplish in any of those areas rather than
it being quite specific to one aspect and I'm glad you
said that I appreciate that that recognition because
in many ways when we were publishing the book and the idea
was okay the positioning of it obviously everything becomes a marketing
for me again, I wrote it to myself if it helped
one person, that would be great and it did it helped me.
But I really did feel that this was for everyone in the
proof has been borne out since its release in that I have
heard from people that are 20 years old that have
talked to me about how much it's helped them. I've talked
to people in their late 70s.
Who again connect with this in ways it'd
be like, you know what this really helps simplify my life. I've reduced some
of that anxiety.
And I've also spoke to corporations and some of their employees
and talked about how these principles again they
apply to anything in the business world. So I do believe there's
a universal appeal and something that everyone will
find something when
Very cool. How does the common thread of selflessness lead
to this path of peace and joy
that you that you've been discussing so well, yeah and you you
picked out that exact thing is that what I think connects all
of these principles is that idea of selflessness
and
For me. This has been sort of talked about
as a bit of an unselfhelp book, which I really love
that.
Sort of identification because what it's saying
is number one.
Selflessness is everything it's not about ourselves. But also in
the traditional self-help book. This isn't
going to tell you what to do. This is about more of
guiding you through in a way that's much more natural and organic
but selflessness is at its core selflessness is
what in many ways takes that weight of
expectation and ego away from us when
we're working, you know, for example, dealing with kindness kindness
to me is
the first and easiest way to sort of find peace
and joy because for many people it gives us a focus activity.
For many people it just feels good to be kind
to people and more than anything else. I think kindness allows
us to let go of our judgments which in many way let's go
of those that that weight of, you know expectation and
worry and stress many ways giving
people the benefit out. So releasing judgments. It's releasing
so much more than that, too.
It's really does sound like the book is like a power energy
Reclamation book.
Which you can try with that. I think
that may be the best phrasing I've heard yet. It is a
Power energy Reclamation is that kind of the idea? It's
true energy vibration and you do
a lot of work on this and and you're certainly more well versed
than I am on this, but I think energy
Is everything being in tune with it picking up
from it but also what it really provides and I think you're
exactly right is that this is about energy kindness gratitude
Integrity humility and acceptance It's
all energy vibration.
Yeah, I think so many of these self-help books
are.
Maybe a little bit too directional. I think a lot of some people
are going to really resonate with that type of
direct nature. But a
lot of people are not because they're just everyone's just so wildly beautifully
uniquely different and what you
know what your book can do for a lot more people than that's just
say this self-help book that just helps you make more
money or something like that, you know, you you're giving people
that power on a foundational level to figure out it exactly
how they can how they can do it for themselves and and again
find out who they are. And is that what they really want is
that is you know is is that true authentic individual
that they're expressing right now?
actually then or is it just a product of
their environment which you know can really lead
people down a very
unauthentic route
so having your book and having the ability
to really recognize these foundations of kindness gratitude
and all this wonderful high energy
states just literally puts people
in a in a different perspective to
even actually bring these things to themselves because we know
like energy attracts energy and I totally believe that
if you were to put yourself in the ultimate form
of receivershiping gratitude for longer periods
of time, you're going to pull those things that you
do want and you do need in your life whether that is more Finance
or that is that person that you've been looking for if it's
an answer to
a riddle that you've had for years, you know, I think I truly
believe that when you put yourself in these in this energetic
States these things come to us in very unusual circumstances
in places that we would never lead
to expect it, and I'm sure
As you've written this book and you you've got the feedback. I'm sure a lot of people have
really had their
eyes.
Wide have had their minds blowing in regards to
like what come to it. What's coming to their life since
they put themselves in these states of gratitude and
love Simon. I'm sending you on the book tour because you
are going to be the best Ambassador and you know,
I'm sort of I would say that I'm new to this appreciation for
the connection to energy, but you
are so right and
Those who know no those who are in
that and understand that they know and those
that come to it. Then they can't believe how life-changing it
is to really be connected to the energy here and you actually
even alluded to this idea of like our uniqueness,
you know, the unicorn in you I wrote
it. It was based on a story with my niece
and nephew that that sort of symbol of
the unicorn but it really has to do with exactly you're talking about that's
special part of us that unique
part of us. That's what the Unicorn really represents. It's it's
our greater potential and ambition and all that really
has to do with our specialness. That's all.
I've completely agree with you and I think when we can find the mysticism in
life, we can find the mystical within ourselves.
I think that's where we create absolutely phenomenal
things and things that we never thought that we were capable
of and we can't do that without this Foundation or aspect
of of putting ourselves in that energetic State
and yeah that whole unicorn side of things that
the mysticism behind that is just you know, it's
This beautiful. I love it. Thank you. And you know what? It's interesting
when we talk about all those those elements
the beautiful parts of life that you just mentioned. You know,
I go back to that principle that I really have been focusing
on humility one piece of advice that
I give to people and again, this isn't a Direction.
But it's this idea of cultivating all.
Because I think that's that one piece that helps
us.
Reduce our sense of importance because when
we're out there in the world and we're able to stop for
a second and I joke that it may require us to put our
phone down for a little bit. But when we cultivate on
the world that's where we're able
to then feel lighter and understand our place
in it and all the beauty that's around us, too.
Wonderful houses kindness and gratitude help create
that foundation for you know being and
changing that state of being to put ourselves in a position
to move forward. I think kindness and gratitude
and you probably articulated it
better is this idea? They become almost energy
states and I think that we're coming from
a position of kindness and gratitude. I mean to start with
kindness I talk about releasing judgments,
but so much of that really has
to do with almost putting yourself in someone else's
shoes. And I think that's an incredibly powerful way
to go about giving benefit to the doubt using our
sense of imagination that I think is so so important
and kindness really
Is often the kindest thing we can do for ourselves, even though
we're doing it for someone else.
Gratitude I still believe is just one of the easiest things to
get started with if anyone is listening, you know,
and they're looking for ways. It doesn't have to be this involved thing.
Maybe it's something that you jot down in the morning or even just
take a moment of recognition or at night. Maybe you just reflect
on your day, but I guarantee you that if you were able to
at the end of each day write down something that you are
grateful for. You should have a very long list whether it's
a clean glass of water that you were able to have a meal and
interaction with a loved one.
A some part of nature that you looked at
and that in and of itself helps create that
Foundation to your original question for peace and joy.
Beautiful who's influenced you or any particular
authors and particular books or individuals in your life
that influence you to create this to create this book in
this and this and this
whole I mean, it's a it's a complete concept. It's beautiful. Thank
you. And you know, I I used to
read a lot of fiction and for me, it was my Escape, but I enjoyed that
so there are a lot of works of fiction that I really enjoy that
probably informed a lot of you know these feelings
but also that this influence
From the personal growth and developments that
I can't say that there's anyone that is really had a major
influence. I enjoy what each of them is brought but I
think most recently I've been
And I've referenced in the book as well. You know
a lot of Maya Angelou's poetry I think
has influenced me just into the terms of a way.
I've been navigating and gliding through life and I tell
a story in the book, especially
the outset and you probably remember this there was
a point during the last two years where people were
saying,
Gosh, everything is like Groundhog Day. It's just
the same thing over and over again based on the the movie.
and I quote Maya Angelou in the book in the unicorn and
you and I say
You know today is a beautiful day. I've never
seen this one before.
And even that change in perspective rather than saying
this day is like all the others. It's a complete
shift in our sense of gratitude and appreciation and perspective. So,
I would say Maya Angelou's poetry has recently has
influenced me.
Wonderful. I appreciate you sharing that with me. Thank you
very much Josh where where can people connect with
you as the best place for them to go?
So I am fairly new to the social media world, but they
can find me on Instagram and tiktok
now even the unicorn and you.
I have a website with the same name the unicorn and you.com book
certainly is available at Amazon Barnes
& Noble some independent bookstores thankfully or in
Good Fortune carrying it and you could always connect with me at Josh
kramer.com. I love hearing from people. I'm happy to
send you a book if you're unable to purchase one yourself and love to
get everyone's feedback.
Wonderful and make sure I'm gonna personally be ordering one myself.
I'm very very interested to read more about the especially these.
These foundational principles that sounds super interesting and it
sounds like you've broken them down in a very easily digestible manner
to easily put into
people's lives right away. So I'm very interested to to learn
more about that and it's that type of book is right up my
street. So I'm very very interested to read about it.
That's great. Awesome. Well, I want to thank you
so much again for taking the time to speak with me today
Josh. I am genuinely excited to learn more
about your book. I'm very happy that we got to get this
conversation in and I got to meet you and I got to learn more
about what you do. So thank you so much for taking the time today likewise. Thank
you Simon. Thank you for all you're doing. I appreciate
it. And here's to your continued success as
well. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Well, that's it
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