All right, Dr. Tom. Welcome to True Hope cast

great to have you here. How are you? What is going well?

You know do on fantastic loving the weather.

Finally the snow has left the building.

We don't have to be staying in

our places anymore to stay warm. So that's a

real wonderful thing Get Ready Get The Kayaks out and

the bikes and start enjoying the summertime.

Amazing. Yeah, well, that's that's great. I mean,

we're just talking just before I hit record here that you're in Reno,

Nevada and then we had a conversation about snow like

You learn something new every day.

Yeah, you wouldn't think Reno Nevada High Desert is close

to the snow. It is it's 30 minutes away.

So it's pretty nice.

I like it. That's great. Well as an introduction to our listeners,

why don't you give us a little bit of an intro who

you are and what it is that you do.

Well, Dr. Tom Waldorf, I'm a chiropractic physician

started over 30

years ago getting into Healthcare was always

interested in a multidisciplinary

approach to health

care that not one doctor has the

solution for everybody.

so

When I first got out of school working worked with

another chiropractor and within three months I was asked to

come and do a research project with the

university. I was from and worked with

12 physical therapists occupational therapist

occupational doctors and orthopedists.

For three and a half years and and got

to really see how well different disciplines

could work together to solve patients injuries. And

in the pain that they they go through so from

that right from there. I wanted to stay in

that type of environment.

And so I spent the next 30 years trying to

get a team of people together educating them

on the benefits of us working together and unfortunately health

care or as

I like to call it sick care really likes to

keep people separated in siled.

And I've worked from pharmaceutical companies

to supplement companies to all the different disciplines all

the different type of injuries and we are

just I think now in 2022 open

to the concept of there being

more than one provider helping a patient.

And so that's my passion. That's really what

we're doing at active life Integrated Health. We have

nurse practitioners. We have exercise physiologists.

I have an orthopedic surgeon that comes in

a couple chiropractors massage therapists who

are now looking at bringing in some therapists for mental health.

So we're looking at the whole human being not just

I hurt my back because that's

just not realistic anymore. There's so much

more to it.

Wow, you get a magnet patients coming in.

I get patients coming in and saying.

Why didn't why did my back office done start hurting

and they said well, could it be the stress that I'm

going through? And I said absolutely it could

be your stress. So let's let's talk about dealing with your stress. So

yeah, it's there's so much

more to the human being than I need

to replace your appendix, you know, there's just

so much more to us than that.

I certainly agree with you in regards to this switch in

opinion and belief around the idea

of having multiple disciplines.

attending to an individual and looking things at from different

angles, but now you just mentioned that you know in 2022 now

and people are starting to be open to this and even you know,

medical practitioners are kind of being

Alert to this what's changed? What do you

what do you think now in 2022? We are seeing

this this psychological shift and when it comes to healthcare sick

care, whatever you want to call it.

It's the patience.

You know people want in our demanding more.

Out of their doctors interaction with them.

And so it's it's unfortunate

though. What we're dealing with here is

a system. That's so oriented towards what

your problem. Let me give you something for it

and leave.

You know the in the allopathic Community the medical

practitioners.

They get patients coming in with all of these issues and

they've got 20 minutes to solve it.

And it's just not realistic. They don't have

the time to spend with a person.

To really engage with them to figure out what's

going on. So people are saying I'm done with

that.

I don't want that anymore. So you get that doctors the concierge

doctors right there. Well, I'll spend

time with you and you pay me a certain amount every year and I'll

spend more time with you.

Not everybody can afford that though. So there's got

to be a better approach.

and from my perspective the better approach is

make sure you have the right doctor.

for your condition

And unless you're integrated and there are

multiple providers within that practice. You can't really do

that.

So I get patients coming from orthopedists patients coming

from physiatrists pain management doctors and they're like,

well, I've got this pain and nobody really knows what to do with it.

And I said, has anybody explained it to you?

No, I don't understand what's going on.

So the biggest thing is patience want

to know what is going on with them. They

want to be educated. They want to know how to manage it.

They want to know what they can do. And that's really what

we do in the practice is we we give patients.

Hope we give them the tools to

be able to self manage and then we're here and

like I tell patients all the time. We're not here to fix you.

We're here to be your coach your trainer your your

feedback to what you're dealing with

and we're basically here to give you the tools

you need to get to that ultimate level of your

own personal health, whatever that looks like for you.

So you think that people all that's happening?

Yes, certainly. So do you think people are looking for

better care or they're looking for

more when it comes to their let's say general practitioner. And

I wonder do you see a particular age demographic

that comes and sees you because I think

a lot of people that that move towards a

functional.

Holistic practice are people who have been

let down by the allopathic model for 10 20

years and they can see that they're not quite getting the

results that they want to expect. They can see

through this kind of facade of just drug off

the drug after drug, and that's not quite what

working and there's not really much more that that they

can do rather than kind of symptom manage.

And so do you see a particular individual come

through your door?

I see everything.

That's the fun part about what I do.

I'm getting six year olds,

I get newborns and I have a

99 year old patient. So I have everything

in between from that to the end some from the

birth to the Grave we get all of it because everybody

wants to know what can I

do outside of taking a medication?

So we deal with kids with inner ear infections. What can you

do besides me giving them another antibiotic. You know,

what can I do when I can't feel my hands and my

feet and the drugs just numb me. What can I do?

So absolutely it's it's not better

care because you know,

we need still need allopathic medicine if I

get in a car accident and I've got a bone coming

through my arm. I'm not going to ask a chiropractor to

adjust it. I want an orthopedic surgeon

to put that sucker back in just right and I

want the pain meds because I don't want to feel that so, you

know, I'm not of the mindset that you don't need drugs. You

don't need this you don't you don't need surgeries. You

can do everything with a good Atlas adjustment baloney. It's

got to be the right doctor

for the right injury and so better care.

I don't I don't really think it's better

care anymore. I think it's informed care.

You know because you can have good care for something

but it's still not the right care. You can have a

great experience, but it still wasn't what you really needed.

So for me, I think patients want

to know I think they want to be informed. What are

my options and unfortunately?

In all around the world. We have a healthcare system

that if you want to go to the orthopedist, what's

he going to do?

He's going to do Orthopedic work. He's going to cut you if

you go to a pain management doctor. What's he going

to do? He's going to give you medications and maybe a

pain pump. That's what he does.

So it's like what they say if if you go

to a carpenter and he has a hammer. What's he going to do with it? He's going

to hit a nail.

So if you go to a certain type of practitioner, that's

what you're going to get.

So the concept of what is it that you

really need? Let's have that conversation and what

I like about an integrated approach is we

have clinical team meetings.

This is a patient I have what are your thoughts everybody?

And I've worked with exercise physiologists. I

I have these teenage track runners that

are high-end State national champions

that have hit pain.

And we get them better and back within a couple

weeks and they're able to compete. We had one young man that kept

having hip pain coming back. He tore his

hamstrings this kept happening. My exercise physiologist guy

is evaluating him after we get his hamstring

healed.

And come to find out the year before he broke his ankle.

So it had never been rehabbed, right?

So every time he stepped down he was tearing his hamstring. So

an orthopedic surgeon would have said well, let's

just freeze up that ankle.

Or let's we attach that hamstring. So you've got

to have a team approach to say this is the problem. How

is everybody looking at that problem?

And coming up with a solution for that patient and everybody

is different.

And that's one of the biggest things. I'm not one

of those chiropractors that have four or five tables in a

room and everybody's laying down and they all get the

same treatment.

I look at the patient. What is it that you need? What is

it that you want?

What do you want to have done? I want to sleep better.

I want to move better. I want to have more energy that kind of thing.

absolutely, I think patience just want to be

Listen to and cared for

in a manner that is not across the desk from

somebody who?

You know has got not.

A whole lot of tools to even pull from to really really deeply help

an individual but you know that a functional

model like you're talking about having multiple multiple different

practitioners in the same practice. You're not having

to go across town to your chiropractor and across town to your nutritionist

and then you know to your osteopath or whatever you're filling

in one intake form and those practitioners are under the same route. They're

having conversations about different.

About different patients. And yeah that functional

model is just like a phenomenal. It's without question the

the potential future of healthcare if we actually really want to

care about game people healthier and getting them invested

in their own health to take care of

themselves. It's it's without question the way that we give

power back to the to the patient where they can become their

own doctor, you know their own teacher. So yeah, I'm very very

glad that you exist in your practice exist because

if we have more of those in every town across the world

and we're gonna have

a much healthier population we're going to have

National healthcare costs just absolutely plummet. Yeah, it's

just it's a massively beneficial all around. But yeah, we'll

we'll see so that's that's I'm thinking.

yeah, and something I've been thinking about since I got

out of residency because I

read a lot about our Health Care system and how many people

use the ER?

As their form of Health Care, you know,

and it's like that's too late. Let's not do

it. Once you're ready to die. Let's come up with a better

solution. And this was 30 plus years ago and

it was an ER doctor writing this book. He goes, we're

not doing Healthcare. We are absolutely doing sick

care. We're dealing with it. Right when it becomes a problem

and people are going to die and we haven't dealt with

it from the beginning and and that's

the that's the exciting part about this, but unfortunately our

insurance system.

Doesn't really support that model.

So what I'm looking at too is okay. How

do we support a health perspective and

and I've seen it work and

that's where you have major medical like like you're

talking about a National Health Care system that takes

care of the emergencies.

You got in a car accident, you know, you have to

go to the emergency or you have your heart attack or all

these things that all of a sudden you have to be at the hospital to survive. We

all need to have that access.

But then we need a separate one where the patient takes

responsibility for it. So it's like a health savings

account.

Where they're putting money into it every month.

And it continues to grow and it

can only be used for certain things specific to Health Care

can't be used for cigarettes and can't be

used for alcohol, you know, it can't be used for fast

food. It has to actually be a legitimate Health Care

supplementation acupuncture massage

is whatever it is and one

of my caveats to it would be at the

end of a couple years and you have your your enough

money in there to take care of a

big deductible with major medical use a percentage

of it to go on a mental vacation.

Where you actually can take that and take a vacation with it that's

pre-taxed that helps you with your mental status

too. So it's a whole perspective of

how we can start taking care of ourselves and people

don't do that.

And it has to be driven some way and I'm hoping that

we come up with a solution like that.

Yeah, just looking at the systems these Grands complicated

systems. Whether that's the National Health Service, you've

got over here in the UK or and your structures

over in America in a Canada is quite similar to

the us as well. But the last word that

I would describe any of those systems is functional.

That is the last word. I used to describe it. And

yeah, there's many many reasons. There's

many many. Yeah, there's so many reasons for that but

to you know, I mean and I I

think they're all just trading War at this point and they're just you know, it's it's just

so it's just gone so far the other way that it seems

impossible to come back but there are that question there are solutions

out there and that people like you who are and

Who are making example of that solution? So

that's that's amazing. But I want to talk about pain

a little bit. I want you to could you give us an introduction

to kind of like what pain is what's actually happening in the body

biochemically bioelectronically like what's

going on there?

So yeah when I saw your question about pain.

that is

a real issue

I mean

and as chiropractors, we always said we don't treat

pain.

But the reality of it is people come

to see us because they're in pain. So if

if you don't acknowledge pain,

you're doing a disservice to the patient.

So when we talk about pain, you got

to clarify what that means because over

the years I've learned there's so much associated with

pain. What what does

the pain feel like, right. Is it? Achy? Throbby sharp,

tingling. What? What are all those? How long

does it last is it always on

constant off and on certain times of the day? Does it

cause any type of pain down your arms? Is

it radiate? Although those things specific to what

pain is to you and

When you define what is pain?

All it is is a signal.

It's a signal that something isn't working, right?

It's it's an irritation to a nerve

in a part of your body that says you need to pay attention to

me.

And that's the thing that

people will ignore pain

Or unfortunately in our Healthcare System, we block

pain.

We cover it up.

And I don't want you to cover it

up.

I want to know what your pain is. I want you

to come in with your pain if you come in

with a bunch of hydrocodone, or you're an oxy.

Or you're on 800 milligrams of ibuprofen and you come

in you say I'll go find today. Well, yeah,

it's because your body's not feeling anything.

so

In in our practice, we want people to have

their pain.

Not for long periods of time of course because most

people can't handle pain for long periods of time. You can't

sleep you get irritable all the

secondary issues come from having pain. So, you

know having all the

different modalities we have in our practice to calm

down the nerves to say we

understand that there's an injury

you don't have to be painful anymore.

And that's really what our bodies doing. It's just trying to tell us something and us

as Healthcare practitioners. We need to determine is

that pain because there's something really really

wrong happening like you're

having a stroke or heart attack. Do you

have an internal bleed? Do you have a nerve that

is being crushed from a car accident? Those are

things telling us that there's a major issue but the majority

of the time

The patients that we see my back hurts my knee

hurts my shoulder hurts. I have a headache. It's not specific.

It's really vague.

And not really like this is exactly the reason

why I'm having pain.

so

my perspective about pain is we get

it to tell us something but then

we need to move through it.

We need to get active.

That's why we have our name active life.

We need to get moving.

And if we move the majority of the

time our bodies will adjust to that pain and

do what it needs.

And I again don't want them taking

the medications and I've had patients say well what if

I take this so I can go do something I said, how are

you going to know if you overdo it?

I said if you don't have pain and you

go for that hike.

And then the next day you can't get out of bed because you

hurt so bad. That's not a legitimate thing too.

The pain is to tell you to stop.

So I I tell

people people that if you really aren't paying take

something at night so you can sleep. You've got to sleep. That's how

you heal.

But normally I want you icing.

10 minutes of ice every hour numbs the

nerves reduces the inflammation and then

slowly bring it back ice again, and when

I have patients do that, they go. Oh that really worked.

When I have patients come in and said I used Heat.

I went in a Jacuzzi the other day. I couldn't get out of bed the

next day. I said, yeah, you really made that body mad.

You pissed it off because you created more

inflammation use ice.

So, you know, we have electrical stem units

where we can numb numb the nerves.

The icing and of course if a patient

absolutely needs a medication for a short period

of time we provide that we also

provide medical foods that allow

for the body's natural ability to

manage inflammation and pain and reduce it down.

So some people can't take pain meds. They just can't so

we get them on an anti-inflammatory. That is

a medical food. That doesn't destroy the the GI tract

like Advil and Motrin and

ibuprofen those those kill your GI tract give you

internal also ulcers so you don't want to be taking those constantly.

And so I was just kind of awesome one

of the long term. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah,

what are the long-term side effects or Associated effects

of taking pain meds or common pain

meds for a long time long period of time so many

people paying medications like your height. Yeah your hydrocodones.

It's your tolerance.

That's that's the problem with pain medications. I tell

this to patients all the time. I said you can

be vitamin D deprived you can be

zinc magnesium all your elements calcium. All

of that could be deprived but your body

does not crave hydrocodone. There are

hydrocodone receptor sites in your body.

You don't need it. It's just there to

block the pain it covers it up.

So you don't know that you have it. The problem is

intolerance.

That if you keep taking it over time, you need

more and more and more and more of it in order

for your body not to feel the pain because your body is going

to start getting rid of it faster because it doesn't belong there.

So that is the long-term problem. That's how people

get addicted.

Because they keep having to take more and more and more

and people overdose on this stuff because they've taken so

much that it shuts everything down.

So that's when it comes to pain medications. That's

the fear of it.

It needs to be used in a limited dose. And

you know, I I'm really into

Active Care exercise we

get physical we start walking we start doing all

these things and you titrate off of the

pain meds and supplies substitute it for natural

anti-inflammatory using ice and I

tell patients.

We might have to take you through a period of increased pain.

For your body to get over this injury. That's when

we'll use those other modalities those

other medications so that you can handle the

increase in pain as you're going

through that that healing process.

So it's it's it has to be managed. It

can't I've talked to practitioners that

patients are on these pain meds six 10

12 years.

And they're numb they don't feel anything anymore.

And that's the that's that's absolutely dangerous, you

know, and that's that's and as you probably know here

in the United States, we got a big opiate epidemic.

You know people are dying from overprescribed narcotics.

So we really try to pull that back and if

you get it in a people's mindset that

you can work through the pain as long as

we've determined that that pain isn't because there's a

major problem.

Then we can get through it.

Amazing. So you're without question working in a

you know in a holistic fashion. So what's the difference between

A holistic chiropractor and then let's just say conventional chiropractor.

Yeah, I love I love that question in the

United States. When I first started we were

called straight chiropractors and mixers.

and you know Chiropractic was founded in the early 1900s

by BJ Palmer and it was

a fluke how he realized that if you moved and

put motion into a vertebral joint

there was effects on the nervous system

and we've learned so much since then, of course, but the

And when I first got into Chiropractic there were a lot of kids that

were kids of chiropractors and they

were anti vaccines and anti medications

and everything allopathic was, you know

terrible and the only way to live was

through Chiropractic. Those are straight chiropractors. They don't

do anything else, but adjust the spine.

And that's great,

but not every

patient just needs that.

If you've ever had somebody come in with a

hot flared up low back bent over.

using a locker

You can't adjust into that you have

to use electrical stem you have to

use some heat at that time. You have to use different modalities

and adjustment tools.

To help that patient that's a mixer.

I would be considered a mixer chiropractor because I

do whatever is appropriate for that patient

at that time and I use multiple modalities

multiple forms of getting movement into the

joint and over the years. I found out

not everybody likes to be manually adjusted.

They don't like the sound they don't like the feel. It takes

a lot of force to get

a joint to move.

Where I have instruments that move faster than I can that don't

take as much force.

So they're unable to adjust, you know,

70 year old women with osteoporosis.

You would never touch that manually.

Or you know 90 year old patients that their spines

look absolutely terrible on x-ray, but I

could still adjust them with these other tools.

so

I think as a profession most chiropractors

are moving away from just

being an adjuster.

Because it to me, you're not being

a physician. You're being a mechanic.

You know and you're just doing the same thing to every

single person and not every single person's the

same. They're just not.

So that's the distinctive difference. Yeah. I've been to

Yeah that I mean a lot of the mechanic.

Phrase, you use there. That's fantastic. Yeah, I've moved around quite a

lot and all that whenever I like, you know do settle down somewhere. I need

to find a good chiropractor. And you know, I usually go to

a couple before I find that that right person and yeah

because yeah, if you know, if if that my point I know

I know quite a lot about my month. I know a lot about my body, but I also know

a lot about the human body and if my chiropractor doesn't talking to

me about my nervous system about my stress levels about my muscle system

about how much I exercise about what I eat, you

know, if they're not asking those key questions and they're just like, you know

High, how are you I've got lower back pain. Okay,

you know lie down face down and then, you know crack bang

wallop.

That's just not serving anyway wallet. Yeah,

I don't know

that is did you say Wallop or did you say

crack Bay? Give me your wallet. Now. I said

I said crap band wallet, but I think I think wallet is a little bit more. It's

a little bit more appropriate. That was

funny.

Good.

So yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't

know how to categorize that type of care because it's it's

it's just poor it's loose. It's

yeah, it's just I've just yeah I missed

there's too many. There's too many chiropractors out there doing that

and it gives it gives the whole industry a

really really poor name.

Yeah, I don't I don't disagree with you but I

think what's going to happen and not

only do I like getting on podcasts and

we're developing how we can get more information

out there, but I talked to a lot of doctors.

a lot of chiropractors and a lot of medical practitioners over the

years with my different businesses and

when you've been out long enough you realize that I

can't just do it like that.

And there's a lot of chiropractors coming to me and saying

what else can I do?

How can I be?

a healthcare practitioner

You know, how can I actually be a physician?

And not this, you know Tradesman.

because the difference between a professional

and a Tradesman is the professionals trying

to get rid of his profession.

You know, we're trying to get our business so well

tuned and that people don't need us

anymore because they're doing so well.

Where a Tradesmen will always need to be needed because they

never solve a problem. The problem keeps coming back.

So you have to keep going back and that's the distinction for

me is that I don't people say

well, why do you have to keep going back to chiropractors three

times a week for the rest of your life?

And I always like to have this joke. I said well with me

you don't I said you come to me a couple

times and then this is the solution for you.

You go find yourself an island somewhere where there's

no stress and all your staff brings

you your meals and you Frolic in

the ocean.

And lay out on the beach getting your vitamin D. The only time you're

going to need to see me is when you invite me to the island.

If you can't do that, then

you will have to come back and see me because you're going

to sleep wrong in that couch where you fell asleep.

You're going to be a weekend warrior and you're gonna

fall off your mountain bike. You're going to be living your

life. So you will have to see me the difference is I

want to get you to the point where your body can

handle whatever comes at it. I don't

want you so banged up that when you do injure yourself,

it's even worse.

So I get you to a good point of homeostasis

and your body is doing great. You're moving.

Well, you have no pain you're on property

nutrition. You got a good exercise program. I'll see you

in four to six weeks which make sure nothing else has happened.

And then you go back out on your life. And then you know when you

fallen off that bike or you tripped on that curve. I

need to go see Dr. Waldorf. I really don't feel well.

That's the difference.

So it's it's an educational thing

and it's making sure patients understand

that. Yeah, you no longer have pain

we don't want pain, but guess what? Why can't

you turn around to look behind you when you're

trying to back up that joint isn't working

right? And eventually you're going to get pain. Let's get

it before you have pain and over

the years. It's hilarious because I'll get patients that'll be

consistent for a while and then they'll stay

away for six months and they'll come back and excruciating pain

and I said, I haven't seen you in six months. I know

I know I said well guess what? I'm now going

to have to see you three times a week for the next couple weeks to get

you out of this phase or if you would have come every month

for six months. You wouldn't been here. The only

difference is you're still going to have to pay me for 12 visits. The

only thing is you had to go through the pain.

I didn't so you decide

you want to pay me now. Do you want to pay me later? It's

up to you.

Yeah, it's that you've got to be you have to be in the

position to be willing to invest in yourself

and recognizing that pain isn't that

well pain is pain is pain is pain is normal. It's

part of life, but it's a message as you say, you know, it's your

body communicating to you that something is either.

Fractionally wrong or something is seriously wrong. And again, you

see a professional like you who's taking everything into consideration and

getting kind of to the bottom of

that and you know, it takes it takes some time and it takes some energy and

some money and some commitment to

undo maybe 10 years of bad behaviors of

like, you know, sleeping poorly or not exercising or exercising incorrectly.

Right as you say like, you know, sitting a

desk for five days and then just ripping it as hard as

you possibly can for eight hours. You know, that's not quite sure we're ever intended,

right?

But yeah, it's funny. I've got

2022 he's like

Yeah.

Go ahead. Yeah. Sorry I carry on that place. You've

got this one patient.

Yeah, I got this one patience. He's like 72 years old

and he's been over like this. Well, he used to

clean carpets.

For I don't know how many years so he's

like this I'm working on getting his shoulders back and working

on his back and he goes how much longer is this going

to take? I said, how long are you cleaning carpets? You said

20 years. I said only take half of that.

Give me 10 years. I'll fix you. So it's

it's yeah, it's crazy. It's like people said well,

they I just gave him one adjustment. They said it still

hurts and like how long did you have this

problem? Oh, I've had it for a couple months. If you expect

one adjustment. I said, I've seen it happen, but it's

not it's rare don't expect one

adjustment. I said it will take us a little time setting those

expectations actually also another important thing.

That's the allopathic mindset that

we have as patients, you know, we want to go and see the doctor and we

want to get something to fix us in hours or days,

you know, we don't want to I don't want to you

have to go to a practitioner and pay our money and expect

to be fixed right away. You know, that's the that's the

mindset we have in our culture of these quick fixes, but

we have to really switch that out because it's

like taking a pill off a doctor, you know, sometimes absolutely

necessary, but there's no personal internal.

Growth there. There's no like big epiphany of

like, oh, okay. Maybe I need to

spend less time watching Netflix at night. Maybe I should do a

little yoga session. Maybe I should meditate or maybe I should

have an ice bath, you know, like there's no in there's no

Epiphany with that something like that. And when people really make

big lifestyle changes, it usually comes

from a trauma or a tragedy or something significantly

emotional that you

know Sparks are completely new frequency within their body

that goes. Oh, okay. I need to I need

to do something here. I need to change the way that I do things but it

takes a lot of time for people to shift out of that and that

quick fix mentality whether they are

going to an acupuncturist or a chiropractor or a nutritionist, you

know, because we are going up against Decades of subconsciously built

habits, right? We fire and

wire our brain in a very particular way and if

we want to make those significant changes that you're talking

about, you know going against 20 years of like, you know occupation or

Hazard of you know, bent over cleaning carpets

for 20 years. I mean, I can only imagine the damage

Been doing somebody's back. You have to imagine that's going

to take years of good hard work to to shift

that out. But I want to ask you about 2022. What

are the primary causes of our pain these

days that you're seeing?

Well after the whole covid epidemic pandemic,

I think it's an activity.

And people are trying to

get back and be active again.

but as you and I both know once you

stop

it's really hard to get active again. It's

really hard to take off that covid 20,

you know, and

it's unfortunate that we're all going

to just have to bite the bullet this year and really

get out there and get moving

and that's why I like our

name active life because it's really about

being active if if you're not active and moving

your debt.

It's just our whole body shuts

down. Why do you think in hospitals

the nurses have to turn patients?

Because no matter what even if we're injured we

have to be moving.

Or our body just does not function.

So for me, the biggest thing is one is stress.

Everybody's trying to make up for lost time.

You know between kids and our professions and

doing stuff online and does

that really work and there's just so there's so much

uncertainty still I think.

So definitely the stress levels and

the inactivity and you add those

two things together. Then that just starts going into a whole

bunch of stuff. We're dealing with obesity. We're dealing with alcoholism. We're

dealing with abuse because people around

each other too much and they're not getting out vitamin D

depletion because we're not outside.

So 2020 is going to be about resetting that,

you know, getting out there being active

get out of your house and start doing something with

your life.

and

you know, I'm 56.

I've done Sports. I've done martial arts. I live powerlifted.

I've done all these different things and my

biggest recommendation for people is don't do

something that's going to hurt you.

Don't overdo it. I like to box. I like

to do a lot of things but don't get so gung-ho

over one thing that that

you hurt yourself. I've got buddies in

their 50s that mountain bike.

And like dude, why are you mountain biking and the one

friend of mine? He falls over the top of his

bike coming downhill with his girlfriend. That's 15 years younger than

him. He comes in there and I'm doing this thing called

Deep Tissue laser trying to heal the shoulder. He doesn't

have to go half surgery.

So that you're too old for this I said stay on flat land

don't jump over Rock two months

later after surgery. He does it again.

I'm the same shoulder. I'm like

So that's what I'm talking about. I mean we need to get

out there but don't go crazy. Take your

time go out for walks. Take

your dog out for a walk start slow and

be consistent consistencies the

key, you know, don't go try to run it, you know

20 mile marathon and go why the

hell am I calves hurt? Why is my back hurt? I

mean, I I work with a guy and basically his

trainer. He just ran the Boston Marathon.

And I keep him healthy able

to move and that's our

motto better life through motion. I mean, that's how

we live is by moving even

when you're sitting.

I have patients moving doing pelvic tilts moving

their body even while they're sitting, you know,

we've been on this call for 40 minutes. Now. I'm starting to

do pelvic tilt. So my back doesn't lock up and I'm not leaning over.

Yeah keeping that core going man keeping

everything moving and so to me.

That's the biggest thing in 2020.

Is let's get moving.

That's that's the biggest thing. Let's get moving. Let's get outside.

No matter what. It is find what's good for you that you

can be consistent with.

That doesn't hurt your body swimming kayaking

biking, you know,

don't go mountain climbing. Don't don't

do these things, you know at a certain point in your

life that are going to really destroy your body. It's not worth

it, you know.

It's just not it's not worth getting hurt. I don't

ski anymore and we have these beautiful ski resorts.

I don't all I need to do is

twist my knee one way and I'm out for

months and I can't see patients. I can't practice

so I'm very risk adverse anymore

in my life. I can't mess with these.

I like it smart man. I think that's very good.

Yeah, and we need to be re-establishing our connection with with our

bodies with ourselves with the outside world

of nature like connectivity is without

question like a really powerful motivation for

everything whether you're talking about.

Your neurons and your brain cells reconnecting

and firing and wiring in different ways and then connecting

with your community connecting with yeah nature in

the you know, the the wonderful things that surround us

that we're absolutely supposed to be

connected to and communicating all times. And yeah, when you take a year

or two years of of inactivity and you know

lock down and just walls and walls and windows, it's not

it's not normal for our body to experience that

and it will have no side effects in the

long term. But you know, our body is incredible. It's resilient if

we if we're careful. Yeah if

we're certainly careful with it and we're gentle with ourselves and

you know, we know our limits and you know, we shouldn't be just going

out there and going crazy right away. We can certainly bring

our body into a really positive state of

being and you know, we can we can do great things.

Not great hundred percent. Yeah, we really

are meant to be outside.

Oh, yeah, there's no doubt about that. I'm pretty sure there were humans

before they were apartment buildings. Don't quite me on that,

but I'm pretty confident.

Yeah, we did like caves. Yeah, that's

true. That's very very

true. And well, that's awesome.

We're gonna we're gonna finish up

there Dr. Tom really appreciate your time. Can you let us know

how we can connect with you if we want to learn more

about active life and all the amazing functional

things that you do that?

Yeah, our website is active life reno.com.

And one of our my biggest passions is

peripheral neuropathy people that

can't feel their hands and their feet.

So we have a website called active life neuro.com

and it goes into neuropathy

and how that all works. So people have

any issues where they can't fill their feet.

They can't fill their hands. There's no solution in

the allopathic Arena. They just want to give people gabidone

or Gabapentin and Lyrica and those

type of things. They just want to block the pain. We actually help rejuvenate people's

blood flow. So that's

that's the one thing we can do anywhere throughout the

world. We're able to help people with that. So that's one

of our big passions right now versus

Here locally in Reno. So that's the

one thing I can do for people.

Excellent. Well, I'll make sure that we've got those links to

your website and to your social media in our

show notes, but thanks again Dr. Tom.

I really appreciate your time today. I I enjoyed our

conversation.

The same here very much. It was a pleasure.

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