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and I could snap on a dime that was one thing especially you know you try to negotiate with your manager and and and

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he's not willing to move and you'd snap and that was the first thing that I noticed I I walked out of Kirk's office

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one day and I went hey wait a minute what happened I didn't I wasn't like I was before hey what's going on so I you

0:22

know and things just started getting better from there and then I then I went

0:27

what is this stuff anyways right and so I I somehow got a hold of David uh from

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True hope which is in almost an impossibility um for the most time and

0:42

he he he uh shared some things and then he sent me um some information about it

0:48

it was h a magazine and and it had a picture of a light uh with a brain

0:54

turned on and I went yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about my brain turned

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on [Music]

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greetings hello good day wherever you are in this wonderful world thank you for joining true Hope cast the official

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podcast of trueu Hope Canada my name is Simon I have the pleasure of being your host trueu hope Canada is a mind and

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body based supplement company that is dedicated first and foremost to promoting brain and body Health through

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non-invasive nutritional means for more information about us you can visit trueu hope calendar.com today we've got the

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pleasure of talking with true hope representative Terry pasre Terry experienced serious concussions from

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years of high level hockey and Empower plus gave him the ability to heal the symptoms associated with that injury

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Terry is our main rep in Alberta and has been working with true hope Canada for 5 years today we're going to discuss how

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his brain trauma led him to find Empower plus and how it was able to turn his life around if you are a Calgary based

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practitioner store owner or just looking for more information Terry is a wealth of knowledge all right Terry it's a

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pleasure to have you on the show how are you doing I'm doing awesome Simon thank

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you for asking awesome well I would love to hear a little bit about your journey to becoming a representative for true he

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Canada and look on how that story unfolded well I would love to share that

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with you um the whole story would be a book because the book would be the Journey of

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my life and um I was a hockey player I loved to play hockey and that's how the

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journey started and um that's where I want to go back to is from the beginning

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and um how I got to True hope um it was quite a process um but it was really due

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to the fact of my concussion problems which I had no idea about and back in our day we didn't know but before that

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um I grew up in Southern Ontario and uh I played hockey uh when I was 11 I was

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the uh the best peeee hockey player in Southern Ontario and then the following year um they brought this kid up to play

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center for me and his name was Wayne Gretzky and um so he played with me and

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the next year his dad coached me and then the year after my father moved this out here to to uh the beautiful place of

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Calgary and Lov to be in the mountains and actually the very first time I saw the mountains um that was so cool like

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they were so huge and then I jumped into the river and didn't realize how cold the water was in the mountains right so

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but uh that's kind of where the everything began and and uh but I led to play hockey uh it was my passion to to

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be in the NHL um actually growing up I was a Toronto Maple East fan and my

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favorite player was uh David ke on and he wore number 14 and that's the number

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that I always Drew to was wearing number 14 and uh U but anyways with with the

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hockey I played very rough very passionate I always believed that that was my Puck so don't touch my puck or

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you're going to get it and so um um I always LED with my head and you know not

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being a very big guy the big guy's elbows were always in your head and and you get hit and hit and hit and but it

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like when I went and played Junior Hockey in Saskatoon that's when the uh

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now I look back that's when the concussion problems really started because uh hockey back then was more

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like a rocky bboa how how old were you when you started to really feel the the

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the the concussions and the the symptoms that that that came with them well now that I look you know I mean when I look

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back on it now uh I would say that probably by the time I was 16 years old

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okay so so pretty young and you probably been playing hockey for quite a long time yeah that I played uh since I was

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10 actually when I go back the very first concussion that I can recall was

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when I was 10 years old and we had a Father's son game and I and I went and ran my coach see my nickname when I was

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10 was moose and Steamroller I just would go through you right and and uh so

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I I went and I ran my coach just hammered him and of course I went on the

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ice and then I got all dizzy and all that you know now I understand what that

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that is back then you just shook it off and uh but that would have been my very first concussion and so by the time I

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hit 16 years of age I couldn't tell you how many concussions I had right and and

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even when I played Junior Hockey one time I remember going I remember waking

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up and uh it was in the back of the arena and I W and I open my eyes and I'm

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looking at the at the wall of the arena and it's snowing and I couldn't figure out how I

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got there I had no idea and the next day the the guys told

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me I played the game and everything and I had no memory the only memory I had was I opened my eyes and there was the

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back of the arena and it was snowing in Saskatoon so um now that I you know and

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and when I first watched the movie concussion um I just I just about cry

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well I did cry I just went look look that was me there there's my life right and even the guy that um killed himself

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in that green truck I had the I had the same green truck um as he did and and

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and my life was uh you know kind of kind of messed up back then even wow so yeah I mean we actually had

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a chat with Morris LTZ who's another another serious hockey player and um the

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conversation about head injuries and concussions never really kind of happen back in your guys's day as it you know

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it's definitely becoming a little bit more of a talking point today and I know they change some rules when it comes to

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um younger youth youth hockey which is a really good thing but um tell me a

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little bit about so you know you you're playing high level hockey and you know you are getting you know you getting

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getting concussed multiple times a season what do what's the treatment for

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that when you're when you when you're playing like you know you get get concussed you get a head injury I know you get back in the game but like

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afterwards after the game is done and you're like kind of sat there with your body what was the what were the

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recommendations by trainers coaches physios you know there was nothing there was nothing nothing there were nothing

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okay so they were just like didn't want to talk about it or they just weren't aware that maybe head injuries might be

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serious they weren't aware nobody was aware head injuries were were serious

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and if somebody was they sure didn't tell anybody and you just shook it off

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and where you went it was yeah you'd have to think as a like as a physician

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or somebody who is aware of the the body and its Delicacies that if you're you know if you're a physio for a sports

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team and you're watching you know these young men getting hit in the head I feel like you have to know that that is not

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going to be okay for them but I understand you know hockey is very very

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serious big thing in in in Canada and it wouldn't be um yeah you want to get you

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want to get players back on the ice as soon as possible so yeah it's it's it's

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an interesting thing but now they're talking a lot more about um how head injuries you know affect people later on

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in life and the concussion movie is one example of that we did a vid a podcast with Morris Luka as well and he talks

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about how his postc career like depression and Darkness was a you know a really big thing and obviously his his

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concussions I believe he was quite a smaller player as well so you know you'd have to put yourself a battle bit to get get the respect on the ice so um yeah

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that's that that's really interesting that wasn't really a talking point back then so let's talk about how you

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transition from you know being a representative of true Hope from there

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is it the concussions that bring you to the product and the company or is it another maybe chance situation

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well um for me it was I always I always knew that like after hockey I I got

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married and had kids and uh G to get on with life but life didn't get on very well and uh no matter what I did but one

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thing I've always believed in and is vitamins and I've been taking vitamins

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since like 1979 I always believed in vitamins and

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um but you know and it spend so much money on vitamins and but it didn't feel

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no results right and so um six years ago

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I got another I had a car accident and I had another concussion well then I then

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I mean then I the concussion that I got it's like oh wow like I mean I remember

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driving to work one day and I I was in a panic mode because I couldn't remember where I was or where I was going and I

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actually had to pull p over I thought I was on Deerfoot Trail and I was on Glenmore Trail and um and it was like

10:35

this panic attack that comes through and and then I even went and seen um a

10:40

doctor and because of the the car accident of course now they're going to try to help me right and uh so I had

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seen this doctor who put these electrodes on my head and it was good it but it would only last for maybe two

10:55

weeks and then I'd go back and uh and but I kept going trying to get the vitamins and I used to buy my vitamins

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um down in maral Loop and uh at nature Zone he was the cheapest in Calgary so when you spent so much money you got to

11:10

find the cheapest way right and one day I went in there and they said Terry Terry we we we got something that'll

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help you and and I yeah I went yeah right don't tell me that you know I've been taking vitamins for 25 years you

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know I mean after my you know after my hockey career and um nothing seemed to

11:29

work so she I got this vitamin it's called true hope and I I look at it and

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it said take two twice a day and I'm Ukrainian right so ukrainians sometimes

11:41

are a little tight with their money so I my so at first I thought oh I'm G to

11:46

take One A Day and and I'm gonna get four times stretch it out stretch it out

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right and uh but not so nothing was really happening and from my car accident my knee had gone my body had

11:59

gone out of whack and nobody had figured it out and and my knee was way out of way out of alignment and and I was um

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seeing a natural paath to try to get it back in with some Prolotherapy and one day I took it to him and I said Dr Chris

12:13

what do you think of this product and he says oh Terry this is a really good product right and he saids how much you

12:18

taking and I said well one a day and uh and he laughs at me and he says well

12:24

that's not going to do anything you you don't know what this is so when I started taking a properly it uh all of a

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sudden uh things felt better and uh but then I had my knee surgery I had my knee

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replaced and that was a very long and uh painful um process and uh I used to sell

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cars at East site Kia and um actually when was the top salesman and uh so

12:51

which was really cool um and and my best day selling cars believe it or not was

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uh four four cars in one day and uh this was after the accident and my concussion I only took two days off

13:05

and and I sold four cars and I had no idea what I was doing so you know that

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tells me anybody can sell cars wow that's uh that's interesting so the the

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the um physician that you got um Prolo therapy from was he aware of when you

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showed him the product was he aware of the product already yes he was he knew he knew what it was yeah he he knew what

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it was and when you you know you told him that you were only taking one a day and he told you that you know you need

13:32

to bump that up if you're going to see some effects when you did increase that dose did you quickly start to feel

13:39

different results yes I did then then what happened is um once I had my knee

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replaced uh things really went downhill because my knee replacement was uh the

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most painful operation I've ever had in my life and all my joints have been operated on or damaged except my left

13:59

knee so um I like to keep that one together um but um so it was after um it

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was about June uh 2015 um is when because I took three

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months off from work uh June 2015 is when I went back to work and uh and then

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I was religiously taking my EMP um and and I bet you within three

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weeks I seen a difference because my my memory was so bad I couldn't even remember how to get to a friend's house

14:33

without a GPS and in the car sales when you go to the manager's office and

14:38

you're negotiating he gives you a stock number and then you go to the lock box and put the codes in and put the number

14:44

in and get the key well by the time I would leave his office and go to the lock box I couldn't remember so I'd be

14:51

my hand would always have pen marks on it because I would just write it on my hand your shortterm memory was was quite

14:58

poor it was terrible yeah okay yeah like I mean I couldn't remember a thing and I

15:03

could snap on a dime that was one thing especially you know you trying to negotiate with your manager and and and

15:09

he's not willing to move and you'd snap and that was the first thing that I noticed I I walked out of Kirk's office

15:17

one day and I went hey wait a minute what happened I didn't I wasn't like I was before hey what's going on so I you

15:25

know and things just started getting better from there and then I then I went

15:31

what is this stuff anyways right and so I I somehow got a hold of David uh from

15:38

True hope which is almost an impossibility um for the most time and

15:45

he he he uh shared some things and then he sent me um some information about it

15:51

it was uh a magazine and it had a picture of a light uh with a brain

15:57

turned on and I went yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about my brain turned on right and and

16:04

uh and I and then I started talking I said well how come I've never seen this anywhere then right and he says well

16:11

we're we're starting the retail Division I mean did you want to come and join us

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and I just went well yeah I want to do this so at 55 years of age at the end of

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August of 2015 I I walked in the manager's office and I quit being top car sales man and

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people said what are you crazy I said well I think I was crazy before now I'm

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not crazy you know and and uh and then I set out on this adventure

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but you know the the beauty about this here too is that it changed me so much

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um from that June then I met my wife well she came in to buy a car and I said

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well that would be me I'll help you and uh now I now I got the car and and the

17:00

wife had I known we were going to get married I would have made sure she bought the turbo version but that's

17:06

hindsite that's awesome so that that conversation you have with David he must have um he must have shared some pretty

17:13

amazing things with you for you to literally turn your life around and and jump on a new on a new

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career I mean you were experiencing obviously you know you you were being coming aware that the product was help

17:29

you and that's obviously a really big really big thing when it comes to trying something new when you can when you're

17:34

aware that it's actually really helping you and you you know when your memory is either improving or you're not being as

17:41

like snippy or or or whatever that might be that's a really big like personal

17:47

like test testimony so like was it that that really made you kind of step into working with true hope or was it

17:53

anything that David like really said to you that was like okay yeah I need to be working for this company cuz you talk

17:59

about the symbolism of the the brain and the lighthouse and the turning on and I know that you you love your you love

18:06

your numbers and you love your symbolism so like you know and that's kind of like maybe maybe like a calling or something

18:11

what do you think well um the one thing uh David said you know

18:18

was like and I mean you know I believe that our father in Heaven everything is designed for a purpose and uh there is

18:26

no coincidence that happened with him and and uh he said well we we looking

18:31

for somebody like you for the Calgary area well that's where I live and what

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what what drove me to you know that's a good question that you asked me uh what was the motivating factor of leaving

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selling cars and making money uh one I think for me is the fact is is that my

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brain for the first time and I couldn't tell you how long I

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felt normal again like I felt in me in in myself in in in more of a

19:02

centered piece and it's like I want to go share this with people and it wasn't

19:08

about the money right if it was about the money I would have stayed and

19:13

because I had planned to retire at Eastside Kia because the guy who owned it was an old friend of mine too uh

19:20

Kelly Tempo so if you want a car at Eastside Kia God just put that plug in there but uh it was about going and

19:27

helping people and and uh and I was tired of this like we were talking this

19:32

morning about the concrete jungle and all that and uh to go out there an adventure and and meet people and help

19:40

people and share with people and you know when people uh come to you and give

19:45

you a hug oops I can't do a hug no more but give you a hug and cry and say thank

19:51

you so much because my my child is back I had a lady one time say to me thank

19:57

you so much I got my husband back and that was really a cool thing yeah that's really special and we hear so many of

20:03

those stories of people who have you know tried our products and and in many cases a lot of people find our products

20:09

because they are in such desperate situations that they're willing to try anything and EMP Power Plus can support

20:15

so many different people with so many different things many stories on this podcast you know attests to that so yeah

20:22

it's just wonderful that um I just you know listening to that story it makes me think that you're obviously at this

20:29

transition point where you're starting to recover and you're starting to you know kind of get your brain back and get

20:35

your memory back and get this Clarity and it's very very difficult to go back

20:40

into the life you used to have when you when something like that happens to you so maybe the association of of that job

20:47

and that past Terry is something that you kind of wanted to leave behind and step forward

20:52

into a into a new into a new person

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yeah absolutely right it's just um it's a whole different feeling when

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you I've never been so calm in my life even with you know when they talk about

21:12

ADHD and all that stuff with with kids and I look back on my life and I go boy

21:17

that was me I had a lot of energy it's a good thing we lived out in the country out in the farm and uh and and hockey

21:25

was my outlet but the the so the fact seeing these young kids now um it breaks

21:31

my heart with the the lack of quality of food and all these vaccines and all what

21:38

what's happening as a matter of fact my my wife um grandson was on um was on meds and we

21:47

had him out here for 40 days and boy those meds he would just flip out like crazy and and we got him on the EMP and

21:54

started you know work with uh the micronutrient support and got him he was

21:59

uh down to like a quarter and you can see the difference but when he went back to Quebec we didn't couldn't control the

22:07

environment right yeah it's a big conversation in regards to so many children now being very like flippantly

22:15

diagnosed with attention disorders and yeah I think we have a responsibility of of creating a

22:22

wholesome environment for those types of children who do have a lot more energy and um you know I I think about the the

22:30

school environment where you know from a very early age we're kind of taught to sit down for eight hours and listen to

22:36

an authority in question in quotation marks authority figure for an extended

22:41

period of time where we're supposed to just sit down and listen you mean I don't think anybody is designed designed

22:46

to do that and especially an individual with a lot of energy and rather than kind of like working with that

22:52

individual we kind of like put them into this box and you know jumping to medication is such a it's just just done

22:58

so so quickly um with in my opinion not a whole lot of thought and it's really

23:05

yeah it's obviously really dangerous a lot of these pharmaceutical drugs are are seriously dangerous have lots of harsh side effects when you know there

23:12

are there are options whether that's environmental changes or getting

23:17

micronutrients into these individuals you know diet obviously plays a huge important role into all of that and I'm

23:23

really glad that you actually know you lived out in the country so you could literally run run around and do your thing and you had hockey as an outlet as

23:30

well because yeah that's quite clearly was a really but imagine if you didn't have hockey imagine if you didn't have hockey

23:36

as a kid what would you have done with your with your energy you know that's a that's a that's a good question right

23:42

because I don't know man I mean I would have probably gone crazy I mean I was

23:48

never in the home like the only time I would come into the house was for to eat

23:54

and go to bed other than that I was out there we had a creek you know take the gun actually even used to shoot fish so

24:01

um and that was just the life and then we when we moved from that to Calgary

24:08

and all these street lights and all that I think that that's when things really started to change for me because all of

24:13

a sudden I didn't have that uh Freedom anymore of being able to go wherever I

24:19

wanted to go I see um so working with true hope for six years 5 years uh five

24:27

and a half well it's going to be six years probably this year sixth year okay so working for TR for six years have you

24:34

noticed um you know people's Liv lives change with these true hope products and

24:39

can you maybe share share a story or two a couple that maybe stick out for

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you yeah um everywhere I go I've seen so

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many people uh that people's lives have changed and the one one thing that I

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always loved doing was uh demos and uh doing shows we did a lot of shows with

25:04

David and really missed doing that because of the energy um with it but when people like I said when people come

25:10

up to you and give you this big hug um and thank you it just there's no words

25:17

that can describe it and uh one person uh we did a podcast she

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did a podcast with Michelle yesterday and uh we met met her I met her uh when

25:30

we were at the show in Saskatoon and she came to the booth and uh her and I got

25:35

talking and connected right away and she was talking about her son and stuff so

25:41

and and she's a holistic nutritionalist and so she had you know some product for her son and then herself and now I tell

25:48

you the amount of product that she's moving out of their their their uh Clinic is is phenomenal and when she

25:55

came here yesterday um it just was such a heartwarming and

26:02

listening to her her speak that's gives me so much satisfaction yeah Michelle is

26:08

is wonderful and what's really beautiful about her story is that she used the

26:13

products for herself and her son saw the Remar saw and felt the remarkable

26:19

effects of them and then with her holistic nutrition training and her clinic setting was able to you know was

26:24

able to get these products to more people who do need needs some assistance and the fact that she's got this

26:30

wonderful nutrition background she's able to um explain kind of how they're working and why people might need them

26:38

and uh yeah it's just wonderful that we've got a lot of stores practitioners and individuals who you know really

26:45

really love our products because they've had a wonderful experience and then they are just you know when you've when you've had that deep of an energetic

26:51

shift usually going from a place of trauma and sadness and frustration to a

26:57

place of just absolute joy and love and encouragement and you know all those all those really

27:04

positive energetic places you're you know you you have to share it's you've got this like internal responsibility to

27:11

share your story and share how this product has changed my life and it's changed if it's changed my life from such a drastic thing then it can really

27:17

support everybody so yeah it's wonderful that we get to speak to those people you

27:24

know sometimes on a daily basis you know um what do you what do you really love about your job working with true hype

27:30

and working with people well if I can pause on that one for a second because I want to share one more testimony of

27:36

course and uh and that was uh Morris lucit and um who did he had a wonderful

27:44

podcast yesterday um but when this true whole product was start was was working

27:49

for me um because Morris and I have been friends for a long time and uh I had

27:55

phoned him one day and I said Morris I don't know what's going on but this product something's happening in me

28:01

right and uh I'd had no oh here's something that's interesting is that I had no idea that Morris was on meds see

28:08

that's one of the things every everybody's always kept everything Hush Hush right and you never talk about

28:14

mental illness or things like that so I had no idea that Morris was ever on meds

28:20

well now he speaks about it freely and and him and I have gone out to different

28:25

towns and have have done uh talks and with people about our concussions and

28:31

our life with concussions and and so there's something wonderful that I love about my job uh and it's not a job you

28:39

know um a job is downtown this is this is an adventure it's going out and and

28:45

sharing with people and and uh just giving love and saying here's something

28:51

that can help you right and uh we all want to

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be just want to help people right and it comes from the heart and uh so I love

29:03

everything about that part of the if you call it a job the other part that I really love is U the team of true hope

29:12

um everybody is just it's phenomenal and uh and I love our our meetings and and

29:18

how we get together and and the likeness one Oneness of us all and it's just

29:24

phenomenal and uh getting to know David on a very more intimate level because my

29:31

wife Natalie and I we've been to Winnipeg with David uh we've been all over the place with David and and uh

29:38

he's just such a phenomenal um individual with so much love and and what they're trying to do to him and

29:44

call that is just really uh breaks your heart because the people don't know who

29:50

he is then yeah I mean I've been working with true hope for about nearly four

29:55

years now I think and yeah that's something unique about true hope like it's you know it's a it's a family

30:01

there's no doubt about that and the individual that work within it uh truly as you say they I I don't think they

30:07

proberly consider themselves in a job for True hope it's more of a I don't

30:12

know more of a calling more of a an honor and a privilege to be a part of this this this this company this

30:18

Association and that we've got the ability and the tools to be able to share six different products that are so

30:26

wonderfully manufactured and prod reduced and just have these these incredible effects on people in very

30:32

very quick time in some cases so yeah it's a really truly wonderful place to be uh working oh absolutely you know and

30:39

when you talk about the products um thanks for bringing that up because uh

30:45

the one product that I mean the EMP is the foundational product absolutely but the one product that just uh really

30:52

blows my mind of how great it is is the free aminos um back in the day I used to

30:58

own some gyms and you know we had all the aminos on the market we used to call it free basing where we just to take the

31:05

powder and punch it back into you and um but when Arginine when it gets stuck oh

31:11

it's tough on you um but one day Health Canada came and wiped off all the aminos off the market and uh and I you know

31:20

what and that's another part that's when I go back my life really started going

31:25

even further downhill without those Amino and uh and I've watched The Evolution

31:30

but that's when protein powders exploded on the market and I've watched The Evolution but nobody's ever come out

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with a a complete uh product and when true Hope come out with this free aminos you know

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23 uh aminal this is like a full meal deal formulated in the same formulation

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as mother's breast mouth and and because it's so bioavailable it's phenomenal even moris lucit when I said here try

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some because that guy works out he's in better shape now than he was when he played and uh but he said I can't I he

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said wow was that's amazing the recovery and everything so uh the quality of the

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products I mean that's the thing I love about it you're you're sharing with

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people the best that you that there's out there and uh what a great joy

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awesome why don't you tell us a little bit about your territory and you know some of the stores that people might be able to access our products from

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wow they got that can go a long way here there's a lot of stores yet probably right maybe

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just talk about the uh the territory that you you work in and also you know how people can connect with you if

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they're looking to start the products of themselves maybe there a practitioner who wants to talk to you in the Calgary

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area yeah um so my area uh basically

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goes uh from from Calgary down south lathbridge Medicine Hat all over over uh

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Southern Alberta and uh and it goes up to past uh Red Deer um one store uh

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drton Valley um Wellness Solutions a beautiful beautiful store uh I've

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actually gone up there uh three three times uh to do demos and it's a long

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drive but it's so beautiful and it was just so sad to see uh drton Valley from

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the oil industry it got hammered with but um just a wonderful place and um um

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okes The Nutters in okes the girls down there have been phenomenal um Rose at

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Lotus herbal um you know I mean I could go on and on and on and on because

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everywhere I go uh you get people that are all like-minded and it's really cool

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yeah and if you were interested to find out like where your local store is you can go to our website true hope canada.com and look go to the where to

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buy section and um you can very simply put in your location and you'll find out where your local stores are and if you

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want to get in touch with Terry himself you can send him an email oh there's one

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other story I'd really like to mention though V first uh they're going to be coming in here and uh Andrew and audo

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are just phenomenal people um yeah and I mean I I said I can go on and on and on

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about this here and you don't want to leave anybody out because it's so and then I have these beautiful shirts a

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friend of mine made of these true hope and uh yeah so I'll let you finish that

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awesome yeah well we're going to finish up there thank you so much Terry we'll make sure we've got your email in the

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show notes so people can get hold of you but I really appreciate you taking the time to chat with us today um it can be

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difficult to share your your story especially when it's in a you know quite

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an emotionally driven narrative so I really appreciate you taking the time to share that with

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me today buddy well thank you and I appreciate and uh I love all the all

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what you do you're amazing Simon oh thanks appreciate that um well that is

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it for this show thank you so much for tuning in don't forget to subscribe if you haven't yet thank you so much for

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listening we will see you next week

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