0:04

so as I started to move ahead and both not only uh my ability to think clearly

0:10

improved but also my moods improved so as it went along I started I asked

0:16

myself wow I wonder like which was it was it the gluten or

0:22

was it the EMP and so I started to experiment a little bit and so I'd go ahead and I'd

0:28

have some Pastor that had gluten in it and uh a couple days have passed and oh

0:34

my gosh like that the cloud just started to come back so went back gluten free

0:39

and then uh I thought well so then I just stopped taking the

0:45

am and with a couple days the black cloud stting to move back in so it

0:51

appears that when I'm off gluten and I'm taking EMP I have good mental health

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greetings hello good day wherever you are in this beautiful world take a look outside it's wondrous thank you for

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joining true Hope cast the official podcast of true hope Canada my name is Simon I am your host true hope Canada is

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a mind and body based supplement company that is dedicated first and foremost to promoting brain and body Health through

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series of episodes is focused on people who have a personal story to share in regards to their use of Empower plus and

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how it has affected their lives today we've got the pleasure of talking with former NHL All-Star professional hockey

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player Morris lucit Morris is a former captain of the Winnipeg Jets and played with gy how Bobby Hall Wayne Gretzky and

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other hockey Legends Morris currently coached hockey goal scoring to players of all ages and skill levels and also

2:03

works as a sales rep for Calgary based LED lighting company called switch lighting Morris loves to give back to

2:10

hockey as hockey has been so good to him Morris has gone through a challenging life after hockey that's been filled

2:16

with many good times but also with a deep dark depression a difficulty in focusing and at times a very difficult

2:21

time in simply feeling good Morris lives in Calgary Alberta and is married with his Junior Hockey sweetheart Ava and

2:28

together they've got a 16-year-old daughter Zoe who loves to sing and dance he's been using true hope products for

2:33

some time and I'm really excited to hear more about his experience especially after playing such high level

2:39

professional sport thank you so much for joining us today Morris really appreciate your time how are you doing

2:45

yeah I'm doing excellent I'm just so happy to be able to say that too because

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it wasn't always that way well that's interesting because we're going to get right into this your story behind your

2:56

experience as a professional hockey player and the the injuries and concussions that come with something

3:02

like that and then your your introduction into true hope and the products and yeah we're going to get right into that story but I'd love to

3:08

start with because we're were just talking off air about the irony around your introduction to True hope and

3:14

Empower plus i' love it if you could tell us a little bit about that please yes I actually got introduced to it

3:20

twice uh the initial time was um was from a young G by the name of Patricia

3:27

and I met her at a a facility called potential Place uh my brother Leonard

3:34

sadly at the age of 17 got schizophrenia and he was living in Saskatoon and so he was put on a

3:42

medication uh and actually his medications changed over the year where he pretty well ended up on ririd dool in

3:48

the end and and got to a place where his schizophrenia could be managed but it wasn't being healed and uh Leonard was

3:58

sort of being held captive by my mom who was protecting him and protected him very very good for about 40 plus years

4:04

and then in 2004 my mom passed away and so Leonard ended up relocating to

4:10

Calgary with my brother Ed luit his former World curling champion and myself and we became his cargivers and uh I had

4:18

already done some previous work preparing for that through the schiz schizophrenia Society I got to know

4:24

people down there and then also at another facility that I helped uh open called po potential place which was a

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bit of a dropin center for people with mental illnesses and it was a um an

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outpatient uh facility so my brother Len was would visit there and and spend time

4:43

there so uh it was actually having quite a good time there also the people are

4:48

tremendous and it was there that a gal by name of Patricia told me about true hope orig originally and uh she had said

4:56

she had gone on it she told me the story about how it was produced in last Bridge

5:01

how it was used originally somehow it it came experimented with pegs and it was a

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fascinating story and she told me how it had really improved her bipolar illness

5:13

and that it might be good for Leonard and so my original uh look at true Hope was

5:19

actually for my brother Leonard and not for myself and uh so it ended up that um

5:27

even though we struggled in getting Leonard on it because of the system that's sort of taking the products like

5:34

consistently and yeah well we just the system doesn't really want them to take

5:40

oh okay you mean like the conventional system yeah the system wants to keep them on uh respirol sure yeah so we kind

5:47

of lost the the fight with that one and uh and then what happened was um at the

5:54

time I would say I didn't I wasn't considering it for myself because this would have been about 2000 and six or

6:00

seven in there because I was not an anti-depressant after years of coming

6:05

out of the NHL and I finished in ' 87 and then through the 90s and early two

6:12

like I just experienced a black depression at times and at times I mean

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like I'd be sitting in the cloud was just so black

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and i' like I'd be on my own at home and I'd be crying and I'd be asking myself like how come I why is it I feel so bad

6:34

this is this is after you finish playing yes okay yeah because I finished in ' 87 but then I played some in Europe so I

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sort of finished about 94 but I I did experience depression through these

6:46

times and um and sometimes talking about it would would help but so but it was in

6:55

about 2000 finally I got talked into go seeing a psychiatrist at uh Foothills Hospital here in Calgary and it was uh

7:03

worked with Dr Tas for three years and after three years of attempting to get

7:08

through this Blackness through cognitive therapy actually being able to reason myself out of it and that finally after

7:15

three years both the doctor and I agreed that it wasn't working so three years of CBT you were doing yeah it didn't work

7:22

okay yeah and uh is CBT got cognitive therapy

7:27

cognitive behavioral therapy yeah there and it didn't work and so it was then we

7:32

decided that I would go on an anti-depressant and so about two it was right around 2000 1999 2000 I went on

7:41

Wellbutrin and and it helped immediately the thing

7:47

was it would it didn't get rid of it but it reduced it so that it was livable and

7:56

um and so I was on that anti-depressant till about 2015 so like the first time

8:02

that I got exposed to True hope with Patricia was about 2007 I didn't

8:08

actually consider it for myself it was right around 2015 that a friend of mine mayard d Daris who knew a

8:15

lot about nutrition and wellness and health to said it would be a good idea

8:21

if I would go off the anti-depressant that it was probably had some bad side

8:27

effects and you said that it helped you in the beginning but like did did the did that benefit start to wear off you

8:33

know what happened was I started to have to increase the medic the amount and to

8:40

get the same effect yes and so mayor he pointed out that this was a bit of a

8:46

uh uh like a downward spiral yeah like if that's if that's how

8:54

it's working then like you have to just keep increasing increasing increasing and obviously the toxicity that comes

8:59

with something like that and the side effects it sounds like your friend there was quite a wise person yeah so it ended

9:06

up and the thing was I had attempted to go off it a couple times but I had

9:11

attempted to go off Wellbutrin cold turkey and like I would go off it and within a couple of days

9:18

the black cloud just moved right back in and the black cloud it it was a sadness it was uh de

9:27

debilitating um demotivating ating like it was almost like I became a a

9:35

mushroom just sitting in the dark it was really debilitating for you like physically and psychologically both both

9:42

yeah the thing is though I I would some I worked out Lots like I typically would work out every day and so quite often I

9:49

would go work out and then I'd feel better afterwards and then it would just start to come back back in so um it was

9:57

thank goodness for exercis exer though because exercise was one thing that that was helping at that time but so then

10:04

when mayard convinced me that it would be a good idea to wean myself off the uh

10:12

Wellbutrin and so we decided a six-month period so I started to slowly take less and less of it and um there was a couple

10:20

interesting things that happened at the very end of the six months is when a good friend of mine Terry pasre uh I

10:28

coached his son in H gave me a call and he he reintroduced me to True hope okay

10:34

and so that was right when I was coming off it it was amazing timing but also

10:40

about a month before I was just into the very last bit of weaning off the well

10:45

butran I picked up a book called uh Wheat Belly which actually talked about

10:53

how bad the glutens were for celiacs it messes up their small intestine but that

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also the possibility that for many people the glutens were messing up M the

11:04

mind also and so what happened was with the in that month prior to taking my

11:11

last well buttin the last little piece of it uh I went off all glutens and uh amazing thing was in that

11:18

one month where I didn't have 10 pounds my weight was at 168 for

11:24

30 years being a professional athlete I could just hold it at one spot in one month I lost 8 lbs it was and what I

11:32

understand is uh there's a a fat around the organs that uh that's a dangerous

11:39

fat that is caused by glutens that actually it's called visceral fat that actually disappears and so without even

11:44

noticing any change in the mirror I noticed a change on the scale so that was pretty cool so this is the point

11:51

where you've been you you were on this medication you decided to to taper off and then after a six-month period you

11:58

got to a point where you were literally taking the last dose and then in that

12:03

period you you met Terry with true hope he reintroduced you to M Power Plus and you also learned about how gluten could

12:11

be significantly affecting your gut and your brain yes especially my brain okay

12:16

so uh and so it was right just about a week before I went off the uh before I

12:23

went off the uh gluten that I started the or a week before that I stop the

12:29

anti-depressant I went on the EMP and uh I can still

12:35

remember so clearly that day that I took that last

12:42

little chunk of the of Wellbutrin and then it was gone the bottle was

12:48

empty and then I remembered sitting through that day and or

12:53

just waiting and then the next day kind of just waiting to see was the black

12:58

cloud going to re appear and then the third day and the black cloud wasn't coming back and I was

13:06

really feeling good and that's amazing yeah and so it was a very very cool

13:11

story now so as I started to move ahead and both

13:17

not only uh my ability to think clearly improved but also my moods

13:23

improved so as I went along I started ask myself wow I wonder like

13:29

which was it was it the gluten or was it the EMP and so I started to experiment a

13:36

little bit and so I'd go ahead and I'd have some pasta that had glutens in it

13:41

and uh a couple days of pasta oh my gosh like the the cloud just started to come

13:46

back so went back gluten-free and then uh I thought well

13:52

so then I just stopped taking the amp and with a couple days the black L

13:59

starting to move back in so it appears that when I'm off glutens and I'm taking

14:04

EMP I have good mental health and I have better moods better motivated inspired

14:11

to do things instead of sitting on the couch uh looking down and and crying and

14:17

not knowing why yeah and so you've done some self- experimentation in regards to like what works for you what doesn't and

14:24

that's really important when it comes to trying to figure out what works for you

14:29

and how best you can possibly put your body and your mind in a position to feel really well and I'd love to ask you

14:36

about no so you're in this oh can can I mention one thing in this so what I

14:42

really feel has happened because I did experience all sorts of concussions when

14:47

I played hockey like I mean I got hit one time in Edmonton where by this big

14:53

defenseman and uh and when I woke up I remember our coach actually came out on the ice Bill Denine was when I played

15:00

with the Houston arrows and it's rare like normally it's just the trainer but the coach was actually on the ice with

15:07

me and and I remember looking over to him and I and his nickname was foxy I said foxy what are you doing out here

15:12

and he said said son I came out to see if you're still alive and I said really

15:17

I got hit that hard and he said yep and he said by the way you know what what city are you in and I thought about it

15:23

for a little bit and we were playing in Edmonton but I said Calgary and he said

15:29

you know I think it'd be good if you came back and sat beside me for a little while on the bench yeah wow that's

15:34

exactly where my question was going to go so like you know you you're sitting dayto day with this dark depression when

15:40

you you've got no no uh motivation to really do anything and you've got these dark thoughts like can

15:47

you link that to your past like you know are you are you directly correlating that do you think to your experiences

15:54

getting hurt and concussed significantly frequently as well right yeah so I believe the concussions have had a huge

16:01

effect possibly contributing to some of the depression yet I think that the

16:07

concussions has have more to do with my ability to actually focus and and uh so what happens is

16:17

uh when I yes I think the concussions had more

16:22

to do that and I think actually the the glutens have more to do with the

16:27

depression and and and yet I think EMP helps with both so and I'm like uh one

16:34

of the it's not only EMP I like but I really like the anaal it's when I take

16:40

anaal it seems to just really sharpen up my focus my ability to focus and I'm not

16:45

sure if well I'm pretty positive that because I can be doing something and

16:52

it's amazing my mind will want to do 10 different things while I'm just

16:57

attempting to do the one thing mind constantly wants to distract me away

17:03

from actually completing that like focusing on that one yeah I mean I I I'm unsure if other people go through this

17:09

but it's pretty frustr frustrating to just take and do one thing when I use the EMP and the anazito it seems to

17:17

allow me to be able to actually Focus complete that one thing without feeling

17:22

anxiousness about not getting something else completed you go from this kind of like scattered brain experience to this

17:29

ility to like focus on that one task yes that's that's really powerful I love

17:34

that yeah I mean it's uh and and the thing is in hockey I've looked back at it and thought about it

17:40

because in hockey it's rare that we actually just take the pocket and just go straight down on one task sometimes

17:46

on a breakaway we're just wide open we're just zooming down the ice and we're just totally focused on what we're

17:53

going to do when we get right in front of the goal tender most of the rest of the times we're coming down the ice

17:59

we're figuring out are we going uh are we going left or are we going right or so we're constantly looking at and and

18:05

almost constantly adjusting like I might fake inside go outside and then come down and I haven't got the defenseman

18:11

beat now I've got a delay to the outside so constantly assessing can I keep going

18:18

on this line or do I have to go to plan B yeah you're making like a thousand micro decisions in that one moment which

18:24

is like you know that's going to that's going to train your brain to be con conly thinking about your environment

18:30

making those little judgments here and there yeah so like switching from one thing to the next so have I actually brought that thinking into my regular

18:37

life now that when I go to uh type up a report that even though I'm typing that report now I'm thinking about all these

18:44

other things because I'm constantly looking at what is Plan B what is Plan B so what's cool with EMP and anzol really

18:51

allows me just to focus on plan a like I'm on that Breakaway let's just get that to the net and get it past the go

18:58

Hender okay all right um looking back when you were playing MH was there a

19:04

discussion in regards to head injury concussion and the after

19:09

effects no not not none whatsoever because you know I'm from the UK we play

19:16

pretty you know foot soccer football isn't is nowhere near as like you know

19:22

physically um Rough and Tumble as hockey is um so you know I've done had that

19:28

experience but like you would get hit on the ice in a really significant way and

19:34

rather taking months off to recover from that brain trauma you're taking minutes

19:40

off and then you're back in the game yeah some quite often was maybe one or two shifts sometimes it might have been

19:46

a period I actually never left a game because of a concussion what was interesting was

19:53

sometimes though I would come back to the bench and I wouldn't know any of my team

19:58

teammates and I'd have to get reintroduced like I can remember one time sitting beside uh Dale Howard Chu

20:06

and Scott AR Neil and I'd got hit in Edmonton uh another time and and I

20:12

looked over and I said uh hey uh who are you two guys and I remember Scott arneal

20:18

laughed he said wow he says You must have really got dinged on that one yeah

20:24

so with like a brain CH or a brain injury that you might get from maybe let's say a car accid accient or or

20:29

something else you would take months to recover because obviously that that injury is causing brain cells and other

20:37

tissues to be to be damaged and that that needs to be repaired but it sounds like probably now in even now in in

20:45

professional hockey people are going out there and playing with concussion on concussion on other brain trauma like

20:52

these things are layering up M to to a point where it's like post career or

20:58

even during your career there's going to be significant serious psychological and

21:04

and physical effects of that going on and really affecting people's lives so even

21:11

now like do is there is there is there a conversation about that happening now

21:16

especially like for young players I think about the movie concussion with Will Smith in right where it's you know

21:21

true story about um NFL player I'm pretty sure he's a you know really big

21:27

deal and I think he ends up committing suicide and there's some other other people involved in that movie where they

21:34

they you know I think this one one guy got kills his family like it's significant and these individuals were

21:40

living really really normal lives but they played such high level professional sports and they're getting hit in their

21:45

head like on a daily basis especially in training as well right these guys are going out there to prove themselves so

21:51

they're going just as hard in training as they're going in the game and there's a little bit of a conversation now in

21:58

regards to how that head trauma can really affect people and is there is

22:03

there a discussion about that now like in regards to protecting people or or like having a bit more of an assessment

22:08

over injury especially oh yeah yeah there's a huge discussion and also uh

22:14

lots of work being done on what can be done to to reduce uh concussions know in

22:20

the NHL um I mean let's face it it's in the old days

22:29

and people took pride in sending somebody into next week uh yeah it was

22:35

it was a good hit it was wow the guy had his head down and he really got and he

22:40

paid a price for it I mean this is the very this is the very first time ever in the history of the NHL that the

22:47

defensive player who normally would inflict that hit is being told that if

22:53

he has a player in a su susceptible position where he knows he's going to crank the guy he is to back off the hit

23:00

he is he and and and the darnest thing is players who are sometimes making a

23:06

pretty legitimate hit but because the the offensive player is leading with his head he's leading with his face it's

23:13

almost impossible for him even with just a good shoulder hit he ends up injuring

23:19

that player because the player is playing such head down hockey so the onus is being put on the defensive

23:26

player to protect the offensive player which was ridiculous to think about that when

23:31

I played it was the defenseman's job to put us either right through the boards I

23:38

mean we got hit from behind it wasn't until guys broke necks that that piece got changed to like Z to reduce the hits

23:45

from behind and then the the open Ice mid Heights hits where players were skating were coming straight at each

23:52

other that I mean that's the ones that really hurt players and that's so the NHL has done a good job of attempting to

23:59

get that out of the game right now there's less hitting in the NHL than there ever has been in the history of

24:04

hockey so you I do want to say that uh so the hits the glutens contributed to

24:12

my inability to focus plus this black cloud that would just move in and really

24:18

I just uh I want to I just have a huge want to say a huge thank you to Terry pasre for having come along I I really

24:26

believe he's an angel and uh if you actually see him his hair is kind of

24:31

white he does look like an angel he does have a very Angelic energy yeah I mean

24:36

he brought this really he brought this amazing uh EMP and uh and free Minos and

24:44

to me at an incredible time and and really I've enjoyed very good mental health the last

24:51

five years and and also it's it's been through uh the true hope products and

24:57

also through going have glutens do you think that there's a place now in not just in the NHL but obviously there's

25:03

some very competitive leagues going down to different ages do you think there's a

25:08

place for a product like EMP Power Plus and the conversation of the awareness of that you know head injury is really

25:15

serious and there are some things that we can be doing to um reduce the damage

25:21

when it's done cuz I think that it's really wonderful that there's less like

25:26

head hits happening in HL now that's really really amazing but I'm sure it still happens because once you're out on the ice and the adrenaline's up and

25:33

you're making those micro decisions when you're playing it can be very difficult to like you know not go in sometimes

25:39

when you don't go in hard you can come off worse right so I wonder if there's a place now for a conversation with with

25:46

these organizations that you know there's a lot of money involved in these Sports and protecting the players is

25:51

obviously really important do you think there's a a way that you know like let's just say empow plus can you know be

25:59

associated with a sport like that hockey where there's a lot of head injury involved oh yes and the thing is uh

26:05

Hockey Canada and uh the various hockey Alberta they've done a tremendous job of

26:14

taking hitting out of minor hockey and it's amazing the upro that caused like

26:21

uh when hitting was taken out of peeee hockey it was incredible the backlash

26:28

from many of people who wanted it who wanted it to stay in and yet there was such a in Peewee hockey and Bantam

26:35

hockey sometimes the the variance in sizes between the like one boy who's

26:41

grew and he's now 200 lbs and and uh six feet and the other boy that's like

26:47

myself who's 4 foot nothing and who hasn't you know the testosterone hasn't

26:52

kicked in and and he's weighing a a buck 10 and he's getting crushed by this

26:58

other boy and um so minor hockey has done a good job at attempting to reduce

27:05

that yet there's still times when players do get hurt and uh yeah so the brain damage I'm not sure how much study

27:14

is being done at that level right now I would say there's being more study done at the professional level yet it would

27:20

be good to also see what value uh true hope products could

27:26

be to uh the minor Hoy players who who are experiencing concussions absolutely

27:32

and not not even just for a um brain health brain injury brain recovery sense but obviously we're talking about a

27:39

significantly powerful micronutrient supplement that could actually even um enhance performance you know obviously sport is

27:46

primarily physical but there's so much mental um athle mental Athletics that

27:53

goes into playing a high level sport you know you obviously have to be very very cognitively aware of like what's going

28:00

on around you you have to be really smart to play high level Sports so not necessarily just talking about brain

28:06

injury but being able to actually enhance your performance would just be a wonderful added benefit well also was

28:13

today's society uh like my daughter who's uh 16 turning 17 she spends so much time on

28:20

her phone and I almost wonder how much that takes away from her ability to

28:25

concentrate or uh seems like much of what goes on the phone is just short

28:32

burst like a quick tick tock or and uh so I noticed I I believe that

28:38

she like she just sometimes struggles in being able to focus getting started on

28:44

her homework she is almost the way I was constantly wanting to be distracted and

28:52

so um it's really cool to be to have her right now on free Minos and also the

28:57

anaza talk how's she doing well she's actually getting pretty good marks in school and it's been a

29:04

challenge to this covid time so uh and it and it has been a challenge to get

29:12

her to go from being a little bit scattered to be able to focus now

29:17

whether that's just a teenage thing it could be okay but it also could be uh she

29:23

could be a product of her environment you've um you C have a big passion for True hope and Empower plus

29:30

from your experience with personal use and you do a lot of speaking events that

29:36

involve true hope can you tell us a little bit about that well what's cool is Terry and I have visited various uh U

29:43

health food stores throughout Alberta and uh so we've done different

29:48

presentations and Terry talks about his story and then um I give a chat about

29:55

mine and also I bring along my uh very various NHL jerseys and small smallside jerseys so everybody gets to have a

30:01

picture taken later with them on and actually it's kind of cool like uh

30:08

there's something about when somebody gets to put on an NHL jersey for the first time they get a kick out of it the first the first jerse I ever war with

30:14

was with you in a show in Calgary a couple years ago right yeah yeah so we've had some fun with that and then

30:20

what's been and and I believe we've given hope to some people who have shown up like there's been mothers that have

30:26

shown up with sons and I I see in the Sun the same spot where I was it could be possibly uh what

30:35

they're eating could be contributing it to uh their problems could be what

30:41

they're missing in their food and that's one thing I EMP it has

30:48

such incredible nutrition and supplement to it so uh it could be really filling

30:56

filling in yeah so Terry and I we've had we've had some very enjoyable times

31:02

together wonderful who would you recommend with try and power

31:09

plus well I think anybody that suffers I would recommend for anybody

31:15

that had suffers from schizophrenia I believe that it can help schizophrenics uh even though I didn't

31:22

get to see the proof with my brother Leonard uh anybody was bipolar uh mental

31:28

illness um anybody that's suffering from anxiety uh or black

31:36

depression and uh also U if there somebody is having

31:41

difficulty focusing I feel that the product can help them

31:47

um yeah that's I've noticed know what's happened is there's been a few times I've actually run out of uh my product

31:55

and and I've done it just to how I'd feel and it's amazing

32:00

how the the uneasiness is the very first

32:06

thing to come back and then uh the Blackness starts to creep back in so do you know that pretty

32:14

quickly yeah it's normally yeah the uneasiness within about two days and

32:20

then the the darkness just starts to come back in and that's when uh when

32:26

I've got to get a new Supply yeah and that's when it's a really important thing that we have to be consistently

32:31

giving our body these these micronutrients because our body is working at such a high rate our physical

32:37

body and our mind as well you know uses our resources on such a significant level and we have to be giving it that

32:44

consistent um source of it and then yeah people who experience who have

32:49

experienced something like you you've gone through and they miss a day they miss a couple of days they notice it

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really quickly and yeah it's obviously really important to make make sure that you're you're stocked up solid yeah and

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you know actually one other group in this uh maybe uh it might be really good

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for young younger CH younger kids who uh perhaps have too much

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energy I because I've noticed that when I use these products I have

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uh there's a calmness that comes in also uh I react

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negatively less often I'm able to uh basically call a

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timeout time out take a moment what's really going on and

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respond instead of uh getting triggered so that's uh I would say that

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these products have helped me that way so for young some young children who

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are I don't I'm not quite sure what it would be called but who are just simply have too much energy this this could be

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something that could just naturally help them uh perhaps

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uh uh be calmer and you know what this is I believe when Terry came along a

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number of years ago I said to him I said it's pretty fascinating how difficult it

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is to just simply feel good like to wake up and

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actually feel optimistic about the today to actually feel good uh how does this

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saying go open up my eyes and oh God another day or to open up her eyes

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and say oh God another day so it's yeah and I feel that e that

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EMP nasal freem Minos gives me the opportunity to feel good that's

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wonderful you I think we live in a a world that is a little bit more stressful than we might admit I think

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we've got a lot of distractions coming at us from this external world that that affects our mind and our body in ways

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that we might not be conscious of and if you couple that with the fact that our food just isn't what it was it's really

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essential that we do supplement in the right way and the right dosages depending on our individual

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circumstances and as you say it can be the difference between not wanting to wake up and get out of bed in the

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morning to kicking the duvet off and springing out of bed yeah yeah because

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yeah I think everyone um should be feeling like that and I understand how

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people might not be in that position but there are absolutely things out there that can help you get to where you want

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to be awesome well we're going to stop it there Morris I really appreciate your

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time today thank you so much for joining us um you're welcome s thank you yeah and um we'll make we've actually got

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some video footage of Morris talking more about his product experience with us from various Health shows so we'll

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make sure we link those into the show notes um but again Morris thank you so much for joining us yes and you know

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what I'd like to say thanks to David stefen and uh for his to his father for

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having come up with this and for David also and persisting to get the message

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out I believe that because of that persistence uh I got introduced to Terry

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and was able to get on these amazing products and uh just really I'm truly

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thankful thanks yeah really well said Morris thank you um yeah thank you very much everyone for listening this is true

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Hope cast the official podcast of true hope Canada we will see you next week goodbye

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