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They're gonna be discussing Celeste's incredible fertility

turnaround story in great detail. Enjoy the show.

Why don't you tell us your name?

My name is Celeste. Stephan. It's Ralph Lu now.

Yeah. So full for full disclosure.

You're my little sister. It's true.

We just need, we need, we need to get

that right out, right? I

Am younger than you, clearly.

Yeah.

Alright, so you're married?

I am. I'm married and I have two children.

How old? 4-year-old and 1-year-old.

We're gonna be five and two in the next couple weeks.

And you're late? I am late.

Uh, I think I'm about eight weeks late.

Eight weeks late. Yeah. So,

So, so most people with pregnant. Okay. Alright.

Pregnant with the third. Alright. Mm-Hmm.

Now, you went through quite a few years

of infertility, didn't you?

Where, where you just couldn't, it, it, it,

there was no hope of getting pregnant.

Yeah. Wanna tell us a little bit about that?

Yeah, we could do that.

Um, I actually went nine years

and not able to get pregnant

and, uh, it took that long for me to understand

what I needed to do, uh, to change things so that I,

I could be functioning as a healthy woman.

And and what'd that journey look like in relation

to coming to that point

where you understood what you needed to do?

Oh yeah. Okay.

Well, it's interesting

'cause it actually all started with, uh,

taking birth control as a teenager, being recommended that,

um, due to hormonal teenage acne, just a bit

of acne on my face, acne on my chest, acne on my back.

So I had started with that, um, and I didn't feel great.

I actually became quite depressed

and I didn't make the correlation at that point.

I just thought that I was just being

like an angsty teenager.

So we started there,

but I got married when I was 20.

I mean, you know, this, I got married when I was 20

and, um, my husband wanted me to take birth control

and I just did not feel right about it,

but I wanted to respect him as well.

And I just thought maybe I wasn't,

I wasn't thinking right about it.

And I started taking it and it did a number on me.

It did a number on me. Um, my cycles completely changed.

I became anxiety ridden.

Um, the cramping

and the clotting, all of that was just absolutely terrible.

Absolutely terrible. Um, but the anxiety

and the depression that came with it was significant Yeah.

To a point that I was really bedridden.

And we've come to realize over the years with True Hope

with the support program

and all that, when they've identified limiting

factors Mm-Hmm.

That would prevent people from getting well in the empire.

Plus that oftentimes birth control is listed as one

of those limiting factors Yeah.

Where it prevents people from getting mentally well Yeah.

While in the empire plus.

Yeah. And the thing is, it's not just the hormonal aspect

of it, the hormone aspect is a big one.

Um, but hormonal, both birth control is super,

super depleting when it comes to very vital nutrients.

Your Vitamin Bs alone, I mean, aside from a laundry list

of minerals that it depletes, it's all brain health.

Mm-Hmm. It's brain health and it's thyroid health

and it's a bit of adrenal health in there as well, which

is completely hormonal.

It has everything to do with our ability to reproduce.

Now you've gone through some schooling. I have. Yeah.

That would allow you to understand

that in greater depth Yeah.

Since that time. Correct. You wanna tell us a little bit

about that so that we, when you're, when you're talking

about these types of elements, that

It's not just personal experience, it's a mix

of my personal experience and then have an understanding.

Um, yeah. So I had moved

to Vancouver Island from Alberta in

2013.

And in 2015 I decided to go to school at the Canadian School

of Natural Nutrition to become a

registered holistic nutritionist.

I wanted a better understanding

and I wanted to kind of more specialize in women's hormones.

Um, by that point I had been dealing

with the fertility issues for probably

five or six years.

And so I was getting an

understanding of what I needed to do.

At that point, I had changed my lifestyle.

I was really looking at stress as a factor, um,

as stress is really the basis of so much illness

and disease in our body.

Um, and I just wanted to, I wanted to have the,

the backbone for it.

Like I wanted the backing so that I could help other women

the way I was helping myself.

Nice. Mm-Hmm. And so you go through the schooling,

you're still infertile.

You, you Yeah. You can't get pregnant

and you wanted to get pregnant, is that correct?

Oh, yeah. Big time. Yeah.

Family's huge. Family's everything.

And, and just a, just a little bit of background.

Yeah. I'm number 10. You, you're number 10.

I'm very large family, so, okay. Yeah.

And I was kind of like, um, the only one not able

to have kids or the family,

so it was kind of, it was a hard one.

Yeah.

And here you are now with two kids with

Two and one on the way And one on the way.

Yeah. Alright.

So yeah, Phyllis in on how we get

to this point today Yeah.

Where you're going to schooling

to become a holistic nutritionist

to understand the body better.

Mm-Hmm. To be able to only help yourself,

but then to help others as well.

Other women that may have found themselves in the

same situation, which Yeah.

Is becoming quite prevalent today. One

In four, One in four,

One in four in Canada, um,

and the United States with fertility

issues, not able to have kids,

Which is interesting because when we look at the very

basis of fertility Mm-Hmm.

That's a, a, a very strong marker as to

where we are societally when Yeah.

The population of the species is no longer able

to reproduce.

Yeah. That shows that there's some major dysfunction big

time as a whole.

Yeah. And, and this number's growing

at a significant rate, isn't it?

Yeah. Yeah. It's huge.

And the thing is, is that people,

women younger are getting put on hormonal birth control

shots, patches, pills, um, quite young

as a preventative measure.

Parents are putting their children on this

or just for acne, um, or for their cycles, or for PMS,

and they're not realizing

that it's actually exasperating the issue.

Um, and shutting off your cycle. It's not healthy.

There's that whole idea of, oh,

I haven't had my period in six months, yay me.

But you're not realizing

that when you do wanna have children,

you may not be able to do that.

You might have to go, if you're going

through the medical route, you might have to go through IVF

that's like $30,000 a treatment

and it may not happen for you.

Right. And all the things that you have to do when,

when you can just take a step back

and empower yourself, learn about

your cycles, learn about your hormones, take that time.

If you don't understand it, get in line.

This is what I ended up doing.

I ended up getting in line with a nurse practitioner

who specialized in women's hormones, works

with bioidentical hormones.

She, um, also taught nutrition, which was a big part

of why I was like, Hey, I wanna do this.

Um, she had a real passion for it.

So there was a great understanding of what we needed

to do dietary wise, what we needed to do, um,

to make sure that everything was functioning,

my thyroid was functioning,

that my adrenals were functioning properly, um,

that I was getting the, the nutrition that I needed

to produce the hormones that I needed.

Right. And then during this time, you'd been,

you'd received a few diagnoses, hadn't you? Yeah.

Yeah. Hypothyroidism, uh, estrogen dominance

and polycystic ovarian syndrome. Okay.

So you had PCOS Yep. And you had a dysfunctional thyroid?

Very much so. Alright.

And you were getting tested on that and,

and seeing all the levels and so, and I

Went on desiccated thyroid.

Okay. So I ended up on thyroid medications.

Um, and I was on it for probably a couple years

before I realized it was creating heart palpitations

because I started taking the ne and iodine at the same time.

Okay. So now we're, now we're, yeah.

You, you've just opened the door about some modalities Yeah.

That you began to use that ultimately safe to assume

led us to where you are today.

Yeah. Now on child number three. Very

Much so. Yeah.

And so you mentioned the nascent Diod. Yeah.

Now, previous to this point in time,

you had been taking a few other remedies as well

that True Hope had offered.

Yeah. But there was the Empire Plus for sure. Okay.

So you're taking the Empire plus. Yeah.

And we all know

that the Empire Plus just empowers the whole body to,

to function at a higher level based on the, the vast amount

of nutrition that it's supplying the body.

So it's not just brain, it's body, brain. Right. Yeah.

Um, but sometimes we, as we've seen, we have

to hone in very myopically on a particular acute ailment

and use some specific modalities for that.

Now you just, you touched on that.

You said you started taking nascent iodine. Mm-Hmm.

And the reason why I started the iodine was not just

because of the thyroid, but

because for me, I ended up being one of those people

that Empire Plus was not holding it for me.

I would take the Empire class

and I would, I for the longest time was like,

why am I not getting better?

Like, I'm still dealing with anxiety.

I'm still dealing with this like, chronic exhaustion.

My hair was falling out.

I ended up, I was in hair school at the time, um,

so this was prior to moving to Vancouver Island

and my hair was falling out

and I ended up wearing like crazy extensions constantly

because it was just thinning.

My eyebrows were falling out. I was just so tired

And, and just to point out Mm-Hmm.

You've got some really cool extensions right now. Yeah.

But you don't need that.

I've got a lot of hair, head of hair today.

Yeah, I really do. And put those in just the other day.

Yeah. They're not for this. They're fine.

Not for this, But, okay, good.

Just wanted, just wanted to make sure we were clear on

That. Yeah, no, I have a lot of

hair,

So back then and,

and everybody that knows you, knows

that you have a full thin Yeah,

I've got beautiful head of hairs.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm a little bit jealous.

So, but back then Mm-Hmm.

Younger years we're talking now. Yeah. Early twenties. Yeah.

Over, well, over a decade ago. Your hair's falling out.

Yeah. Okay. And so you're, you're ending up with these,

these issues and now, you know,

we're fast forwarding you're on the desiccated thyroid.

You said that it started to give you heart palpitations

and you said, because I started taking, you started the Na

and Dine, you'd already been on the Empire Plus.

Yeah. And now you're taking NAS and Dine. Mm-Hmm.

And now you're getting heart pal, heart

Palpitations.

I thought I was having a heart attack,

Which, so now you're being overmedicated.

Oh yeah. Significantly.

So at that point, um, I just started

to reduce the thyroid medication.

I had been working with a phenomenal, uh, hormone doctor out

of Lethbridge, and he was just all for it.

He understood. Plus he recommended for, recommended it

for women who were dealing with a lot of,

like the psychiatric sort of struggles,

a lot of the mental health stuff.

Um, but he had the full picture,

he understood the full picture

that hormones needed maybe just a little more.

And sometimes we need to take a little bioidentical hormones

to kind of give us that boost.

Yeah. And just to digress for a moment. Mm-Hmm.

This particular doctor has an interesting history.

He does, as he was once a practicing psychiatrist

and really despised what we were doing in helping

psychiatric patients no longer be psychiatric patients.

They were getting, well, they no

longer required a psychiatrist.

So Mm-Hmm. This particular doctor,

before he became a hormone specialist, used to have a real

negative, um, association with us.

Yeah, totally. And something happened and he changed

and he becomes a hormone specialist.

And now he's recommending Yeah. Our products,

He, he has the bottle sitting on his desk.

Okay. Yeah, he's very cool. Very, very cool.

And of course, he was recommending things like additional

vitamin D uh, vitamin D is directly correlated

with hormone issues as well.

I mean, there's, I mean, there's so many things,

but that was definitely one of them for sure.

That he was recommending. But yeah.

And that was kind of cool too. So, yeah. I don't know.

So you get off the desiccated thyroid? Yeah,

I ended up working off of it.

Okay. It was probably, probably a couple months. Yeah.

And I finally got off of all of that.

And I have had my thyroid tested quite regularly.

I still work with my nurse practitioner.

Um, she just, she's wonderful.

Uh, we've worked together for 13 years, um, yeah,

about 13 years, 12 years.

Um, and she does all the testing.

We do thyroid testing, um, and all of my hormone levels

and a lot of my nutrition, like my nutrient levels.

Um, and my thyroid's been perfectly fine

For how many years has your thyroid been? Good?

It's been at least a decade. Wow. Yeah.

2023. Yeah.

Well, maybe eight, maybe eight years. Yeah.

Awesome. Yeah. So, okay. So the better part of a decade.

Yeah. And you've seen a recovery Yeah.

No longer requiring medication for the thyroid? No.

And the levels are testing normal?

Very much so. Yeah.

Okay. So it's not like you're just enduring No.

Some dysfunction. It's been corrected.

So the way it works, um, medically,

so I've done the saliva testing,

the saliva testing's really interesting.

Um, so I've gone that route.

And with her, I do it through labs,

unless I want more of an in-depth look,

if I feel like it's a concern.

She's very empowering that way.

She, she kind of puts her health in your hands.

Um, but anytime that you get testing done, uh, I know

for sure in BC and maybe Alberta, if it doesn't come up

as a red flag, they don't continue the testing further.

So they do like a base level. Yeah.

And then if that's an issue, then they go into your T three

and your T four, so. Okay. Yeah.

So, And I have not had to do that.

Awesome. Yeah. So now, was there any other

supplements that you began to, to realize the value of,

in relation to assisting you on your journey to the point

that now you're,

you're gonna have child number three, right?

Whereas before you're barren, there's nothing happening.

Yeah. Right. Was there anything else that,

that came into play?

Because you start talking about the nascent iodine,

and obviously, or maybe not obviously,

but from, from what I'm getting out of it,

is it seemed like there was almost an unintended, uh, effect

to it, where suddenly you're getting Hal heart palpitations

and you're not realizing that you should be reducing Yeah.

The thyroid medication because you don't need it anymore.

Mm-hmm. Right. And so, I don't know,

the way you communicate, there was almost like an element

of surprise there it seemed or whatever, but it,

Well, I knew that the iodine was good for thyroid, um,

just because it was one of the things

that we were bringing into true hope.

And so there was discussion around it.

So I started using it,

but didn't make the correlation that

like the medications would now be too much

and that it would be as effective as it was.

So that was kind of like the element of surprise there.

Right? Yeah. And, and,

and that, that, that can be a little bit of a, a little bit

of a concern being overmedicated,

but what a beautiful problem to have that Mm-Hmm.

You don't need medication anymore,

so now let's start reducing it.

Right? Yeah. Your body is now functioning

based on the nutrition that it actually requires.

Right. Versus putting some foreign agent in there to try to,

to, to replicate or to stimulate.

Right. Yeah. So was there,

what other supplements did you find that were useful

that you maybe didn't even recognize the value of initially?

And then you, as you were going through schooling,

was there anything that popped up and,

and suddenly you started to realize there's more of a,

a regimen to be put into place here

for your total hormone health?

Um, so there's a total of five five for sure.

Um, that are kind of in my mind with someone who's dealt

with PCOS, um, and the mental health that goes with that,

and the mental health that goes with fertility issues.

'cause that is a whole thing in itself

that has you questioning like, what's my value?

I'm not even capable of doing what women do.

Like, there's,

there's a whole thing that's wrapped around it.

So the five that I have relied on

is the empower Plus.

I understand it's the, for the foundational formula.

I've always understood that it wasn't doing

what I felt it was supposed to

because my thyroid was an issue.

So then we added the iodine,

the acetol, the acetol.

I didn't understand just how important that was up

until probably the last, I don't know.

It's been opening like the last six years

has like really opened seven years maybe.

Really opened my eyes as to the importance, especially

for women who are dealing with PCOS.

There's a insulin resistance aspect to PCOS.

Um, and the stress of dealing with PCOS, the pains of it,

Anatol is so wonderfully researched that it is just,

it's phenomenal for women.

It makes all the difference.

And on top of it tastes like sugar and add it to your water.

It's stress relieving. It's like a breath of fresh air.

Um, I use it with my little guy when he is having a tantrum.

We just sit down. I call it a sugar dip

'cause I don't know why I came up with that,

but he licks his finger and, and sticks it in the powder.

Kind of like those fun dips when you're a kid.

Yeah. So,

And, and we've had some fun with,

with over the years at different health shows as we've gone

and presented there and all that and had our booth.

Yeah. We've had some fun with the al over the years and,

and, and seen some people unable

to put in their mouth without gagging

and blowing up white powder or making the zen lemonade.

But on the West coast, Mm-Hmm.

Uh, the, the, the wordage

or the verbiage that was used, uh, was, it's,

it's very grounding. Right?

Oh, totally. Where other people will say it's calming,

you know, the language just changes, you know,

through Canada is we sampling it, how people respond to it.

But it's just interesting. It's on the West coast,

it was grounding.

It's just like, and and the way I put it is it's like

somebody hit the reset button.

I get a, I get a new take at this day

that maybe things got out of hand.

Yeah. And now all of a sudden it's like, ah, alright,

let's, let's retry this. Right. Yeah.

Phenomenal tool. Totally.

Like one of the best things for stress relief.

One of the things I found doing demos,

'cause I did demos obviously in the health food stores

for a little while there, um, is

that I'd have people, I'd be right by the door.

They'd come in and I'd say, okay, like,

you're totally going to chaos.

Like it's maybe wow day at one of the stores

and there's so many people and like, just take this

and come back in five minutes and let's talk.

And it was amazing.

People would go in with like anxiety,

not wanting to make eye contact.

It's just too stimulating to being able to function

like and happily.

Yeah. That's beautiful.

So that's been a go-To go-to, for me is absolutely one

of my favorite products I would hands down

recommended for anyone.

So you didn't realize initially the value of the nos atol

Not for PCOS. No.

And now nobody in trope did, in fact, we, we were just

so like nearsighted on this Mm-Hmm.

Like blinders were on. It's good for anxiety. Yeah. Right.

Is is is what we were, that's all we knew. Yeah.

Yeah. Sleep, anxiety, that's it. Yep.

Yeah. Yeah. Just it helped calm me

before sleep, whatever, and yeah.

Anxiety. But we didn't realize what,

what it was actually doing in relation to how it was helping

with sleep and why it wasn't making you sleepy

in the midday when you were taking it.

But yet at night it is making you sleepy. Yeah.

When you should be sleepy. And

so we didn't realize the mechanism there.

And you mentioned, you know, there's an, uh, element

of insulin resistance when it comes to PCOS.

Yeah. And that is why when you take a look at Ceal

and compare it to metformin Yes.

That the scientific literature shows

that ceal is more effective for the treatment

of both type two diabetes

because insulin resistance, C Os and PCOS.

Yeah. Because metformin is used for both

of those in the medical world. And it's

Due to, and you're not gonna deal with the side effects

that you owe with metformin.

No. That's the reality of it.

Well, yeah. You know, the, and,

and we need to list that as negative side effects because,

and it's not just, they're not side effects,

they're just simply effects.

Yeah. It has these effects,

but it's the, not necessarily the unintended effects.

It's the unmarked effects.

So when, when a medication is marketed for a particular, uh,

ailment, let's say, yeah.

It has all these other effects Mm-Hmm.

That many people will see,

but a variety, you know, some people, you know,

30% will have, you know, this effect

where their intestines are de bleed or whatever.

Or some people will end up with, and this is weird,

and I've spent about two

and a half months of my career with trope, actually going

through all the side effects of

medications is interesting what you see.

So, you know, maybe only 3%

that consume this medication will get a hairy tongue.

Right. Oh my god. That just weird stuff like that.

But yeah, they are effects. They're not side effects. Yeah.

They're effects. Yeah.

And so when we look at the effects of an acetol Mm-Hmm.

It's, they're positive effects there.

There isn't a negative side effect

unless you have a very sensitive bowel

and it acts as a laxative.

Yeah. Right. Which

'cause it's a sugar alcohol, Right?

Yeah. So, but it can also be beneficial

that way wherein if somebody is constipated,

they can use the acetol Yeah.

As a laxative. And that's the indicators as

to whether you're not, you're getting

more than your body can tolerate.

Yeah. So it's,

and that's a natural protective

mechanism the body has in place.

It'll do it with magnesium as well.

So that's basically the only thing I could be listed

as a negative side effect from men acetol,

because everything else is improving

or optimizing the functionality of the bottom.

Right. Right. Yeah.

And that's done as discussed earlier on, uh, during the,

you know, all the videos that we've been doing Mm-Hmm.

Over the last two days is due to the thought

that it's providing the, the structural basis

for the secondary messenger molecule Right.

Within the cells so that now insulin

can adequately communicate with the cells.

Yeah. Or that it's that

Locking key mechanism Lock.

Yeah. So why, why don't you explain that a little bit? Yeah.

And I, I'm a per, I'm presume

this is coming from your education

Oh yeah. A little bit.

Um, the cell in order

to allow certain things to enter.

So if insulin is going to enter, it's a certain shape.

And I guess that's the way

that we were taught was that it's a certain shape.

And so the locking key, the key

and the lock aren't fitting properly when you have

insulin resistance.

It's like creating a barrier

or changing, I guess the shape that is super layman.

That's, that's the way you go with it.

But it's just when you have that visual, you understand

how it functions together.

So quite simply, the insulin is there to do a job.

It's a, it's a messenger molecule

And it's like there's some

guards at the door saying, Uhuh. Right. You're not welcome.

That cell is not going to respond appropriately. Right.

Hence the insulin won't have the

function it's supposed to in the body.

Yeah. Right. And then that goes for

melatonin, serotonin and dopamine.

Yeah. Everything. Right? Norepinephrine. Yeah.

Egg testosterone. Mm-Hmm. Estrogen. Right.

All of these things are messenger molecules. Yeah.

And now we discover that look,

acetol isn't just for anxiety.

Yeah. It's about enhancing the communication of hormones,

neurotransmitters, and cells within the body.

Yeah. Which is phenomenal. Which,

Incredible.

Yeah. So, so tell us about where

that, that ended up leading.

So you, you found the nossal

and that was product number three.

You said there was five products. Yeah.

So you said M power plus nascent di Diod.

The Instal. The nossal.

So what, what ended up resulting from the, the use

of ACETOL in relation to the whole issue, the,

the dysfunction in your body that was diagnosed

as PCOS hypothyroidism.

Um, And there was one more in that was

Some major changes. Uh,

yeah. Estrogen dominance as well. Okay.

Um, and that's where one of the other supplements kind

of comes in and lifestyle changes.

And that's a big thing when I think of, um,

how I could help other women to make these changes.

There's a bit of a laundry list

and if we embrace those changes,

everyone in the household benefits,

everyone in the household gets better.

It feels better, reacts better.

Like we we're just better, we're, we're better humans,

we're back a little more in our natural state,

um, the way we were intended.

But the anatol was something I kind

of used off and on over the years.

I used it for test anxiety, um, a bit of social anxiety

kind of in high school, um, and a little afterwards.

So it's just, yeah. It's an all around good one.

Um, it made a big difference actually with

facial hair growth when I was 20, I,

after starting the birth control again,

I suddenly started growing like crazy amounts

of facial hair, which is incredibly common

and not discussed.

Um, now people are starting

to get a little more open about it.

We're a little more of an open society

where we discuss these things and it's less shame attached.

Um, but the antal made a dramatic difference for that.

Beautiful. Yeah.

Now as I've been working

with different individuals over the years as well, uh,

something that, that may be related, uh,

to a certain degree anyways, is that, um, you know,

teenagers with acting with, with, you know,

significant acting to the point that, you know,

they don't want to go out, you know, it, it,

it impacts their social life to a significant degree.

And the acetol has proven very effective

in helping to correct those acne issues, which at the end

of the day, I mean, we're

bullying right. Down to hormone issues.

Right. Totally. Yeah. So that, that, that's incredible.

Something to go along with that.

Um, and this goes for all people with hormones,

which is every single one of us,

if we're wanting better hormone function,

we have to focus on our liver.

Our liver is the filter of all of our hormone, our hormones,

and our liver is the thing that takes the biggest hit.

Um, especially with all the environmental toxins,

all the crap that we consume, the cosmetics

that we're using, everything's laden with xenoestrogens,

um, which are basically synthetic estrogens

that are found in plastics and a lot of chemical products,

Petroleum based estrogens.

Right? Yes. And,

and just to kind of differentiate,

so we have the xenoestrogens Yeah.

And then you have phytoestrogens

that are coming from plant sources.

Yeah. Right. Which

Is a bit of a different thing That's Yeah.

That's different than xenoestrogens.

There is a bit of a controversial conversation going on

around that right now.

Um, but the phytoestrogens

and the xenoestrogens are very different.

Right. And, but at the end of the day,

when we're looking at both of 'em Mm-Hmm.

We're being bombarded

with more phytoestrogens than we're accustomed to as well

as way more xenoestrogens Yeah.

Than we should significantly ever

Be. Should ever. Yeah.

Right. Okay. Um,

and so that's kind of where my fourth,

my fourth supplement comes in.

And that's dim DIM Can I pronounce the full

scientific name?

No, I'd have to, I'll have

to look it up and, and read it out.

Um, have tried for many years,

but it is me from Brassicas, um, brassica vegetables

and, uh, mainly broccoli.

And it's actually used to metabolize estrogens.

So if someone's asking dominant Yes.

Or if they're being bombarded with, you know,

where phytoestrogens and, and there's, just

because we're seeing this where there, there's, I mean,

we're, there's certain chemicals being used in the

food supply chain today.

Very much so. Yeah. And,

and they are extremely detrimental Yeah.

To, um, I'll call it gender manifestation. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. For men being men and women being women.

Yeah. It's always changing our levels. Big time. Right?

Yeah. And, and, and, and so we're seeing,

we're seeing this manifest within society as a whole.

And so when we're taking a look at this,

let's say a man is just being

bombarded with estrogens Mm-Hmm.

He's not gonna be nearly as mad, oh,

He's gonna deal with the real testosterone slump just

because it's, it's a competing hormone

in a sense. Yeah. Okay.

And, and, and on top of that, you know, the,

the physical manifestation is he's,

his body shape is going to change.

Yep. His, his,

He's gonna become softer.

His demeanor is gonna change. Yeah.

His drive and motivation is gonna change. Yeah.

Even perhaps his hobbies are going to change

what he likes and dislikes.

There's gonna be so much that's hinging on

the functionality of testosterone in the body versus

the presence of estrogen. Right.

It's like the battle against healthy masculinity.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, and

That's like birth control in the water.

'cause that's not coming out of your water.

So if you're drinking from the tap

or a lot of bottled water.

Okay. Um, I know we were talking about earlier,

um, sprays.

So if you're in like an agricultural community

where there's a lot of spraying

that is leaking into your groundwater,

you are literally consuming that.

Um, and the basis of all of these things

is gonna be xenoestrogens and it's just laden with it.

Any of your cosmetics, um, anything that has fake smells.

So we have all these wonderful women that think

that they're doing themselves service, and it's calming

because they're going to burn a scented candle.

You are breathing that in.

It is becoming a part of who you are.

So if we're dealing with major PMS issues, we're dealing

with like kind of rage and explosion.

This is like es this is estrogen.

Mm-Hmm. And when we make that connection

and we understand that the things that we put on our face,

these things that beautify us, the color we put in our hair,

the big sprays of all of these not

naturally based sense, it is just competing

with your ability to be like a healthy functioning woman.

Right. That doesn't have horrific periods,

that doesn't have the mood swings that that whole week

before their period, that just leads up to it.

And like, heaven forbid anyone have anything to do with you,

there's a lot of women who who deal with that. Yeah.

Alright. It's just your Estrogens. So

Dim, dim, so dim is, uh,

an estrogen metabolizer Yes.

That comes from broccoli, di broccoli

Specifically. They'll

Yeah. Brassicas, but mostly broccoli.

And so even man can very much benefit from the consumption

of dim to basically metabolize the estrogen that's Yeah.

You know, in them that isn't still welcome in in a man who

wants to be a man.

Yeah. In essence. Yeah. Okay.

So that's, that's supplement number

four. Yeah. What's number five?

Omega threes. Omega Threes.

Omega threes. Alright.

Um, that really has everything to do

with everything like Mm-Hmm.

They're so, uh, wide spectrum.

Um, for me it's about inflammation.

Um, because hormonally, when you're higher estrogen,

you're dealing with a lot more inflammation.

Um, it's just, I mean, it is good for everything.

There's such a massive list

and there's also the stress aspect, um,

and just that brain connection.

So we're taking Empower Plus, which is getting

the brain functioning properly,

but our, our things connecting Right.

Our, our those neurons connecting

and that's where the fat comes in.

Awesome. Yeah. And,

and as many people

that have viewed presentations stem myself,

I talk about the four-legged stool.

Right. Or we could, you know,

there's a big coffee table here with four legs.

Yeah. And it takes all four legs to create support

and balance for that table to function well

that you can place something on there without

thinking that the table's gonna tip over.

Yeah. And when we look at the four legs of nutrition,

we're talking about vitamins, minerals, amino acids,

and omega fatty acids.

Yeah. And that they work synergistically to create support.

Yeah. Uh, a sense of solidity in our body

and making sure that everything is functioning

and working the way that it was designed to work.

Those four main classes of nutrients and,

and we don't supply, we don't, um, sell an omega fatty acid,

but we definitely recommend it alongside our Empower Plus

and our amino acid supplement.

Yeah. Free aminos, which I presume that you've been using

as well throughout this whole journey.

Yes. But for whatever reason,

and I was gonna state free aminos are really

like amino acids in general.

What free aminos, um, are vital for hormone production,

huge for hormone production.

Um, I just never put them in my Maine and I probably should.

Mm-Hmm. But I, it's not one of the five that I've considered

to be like my main point of what I

Needed. Okay. So

a real quick, quick recap. Mm-Hmm.

First of all, you are infertile Mm-Hmm.

And you're trying to get pregnant Yeah.

For the better part of a decade. Yeah.

And then you are taking the Empower Plus

as a foundational formula as we all grew up with it.

Yep. And you introduce iodine into the mix

and all of a sudden you're having to reduce off

of your desiccated thyroid

'cause your thyroid is now functioning.

Yeah. And then during this time,

you're becoming a holistic nutritionist

and you're discovering as well that the, an nostril is, is

Really crucial for school.

I had crazy social anxiety, so I was like,

I don't wanna deal with new people.

I don't like making new friends.

I just kind of, you know, I want it to happen,

but I don't wanna have to like open up and,

but the a**l made all the world of difference.

And then I actually provided it for the school.

So anyone who wanted to take it for class

or for tests could have it there as well,

Which is, it's awesome.

Yeah. For those struggling with academia

because of the stress surrounding test.

Oh yeah. It's amazing. And it helps,

it doesn't just give a

sedating effect where they're not stressed.

It gives 'em more of a laser beam focused. Totally. Totally.

'cause things are working better in the brain at that point.

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Lovely.

Um, so now you've got those three true products plus the

dim, which the metabolizing the, uh, the estrogen

and, and you were dominant.

Um, yeah.

And then the Omega-3 fatty acids were,

which are extremely complimentary to

the Empower Plus and females.

Yeah. Big time. And today you are a new woman

and you're still, we're we're all, we're all entering.

I'm still on my journey. We're still, you know,

coming from a, a childhood

and, you know, early twenties of just being in like

absolute devastation of health.

I'm still on that journey

Of course. But

Like, I'm having children and you're, and I'm so stable.

I'm so stable. And I, the fact that I can say that,

especially being pregnant, like I am just,

I'm like a cucumber.

I'm so chill. And like I'm a pleasant and my children

and my husband love me.

Like, I'm not like this thing that they dread

to deal with every day.

That's absolutely beautiful. Yeah.

So the journey is rewarding. Totally.

And you're not done yet. No.

Unlike like all of us,

nobody's done, we're all in our journey.

Yeah. And as we get older, we're finding new ways not

to cope, but to thrive.

To thrive and, and, and, and to, to redirect our energies.

'cause obviously things change as, as we get older. Yeah.

And we take on different hobbies,

but the fact of the matter is that we have

our quality of life about us.

Totally. And we have our cognition, clear thought processes

that we get to make, uh, great decisions about

how we navigate through this thing called life.

Totally Awesome. Yeah. Thank you for sharing.

Of course. Anytime.