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Today I welcome back

to the podcast Professional Biofeedback

Technician Lorela Zanetti.

Now, Lorela has been practicing for the past 16 years

and is registered by the Natural

Therapy Certification Board.

Lorela received her training at the Quantum Center

of Excellence, a division of the Quantum Alliance.

She came to biofeedback work

after receiving treatments herself

and realizing the power of energy work.

Her practice is called Quantum Pathways,

and her current research focuses on

how diet affects the body, specifically with dementia,

mental illness, autoimmune diseases, hormones,

fatigue, and overall wellness.

Today we're gonna be discussing Loretta's amazing Journey

through Health and with True Hope Canada.

Enjoy the show. Hi, Loretta. Hi

Simon. How are

you? I'm good. How are you?

I'm very well. Thank you for taking the time to chat

with us on the podcast today.

You've been on the co podcast before. Mm-Hmm. Episode eight.

We spoke about Quantum Pathways and biofeedback. Mm-Hmm.

And we're not gonna dive too much into biofeedback today.

We're gonna talk more about your experience with True Hope.

So why not as an introduction,

can you just let us know about you and True Hope

and how that whole relationship began

and has evolved? All right.

What's a pleasure to be here? Thank you.

Um, so the, uh, whole journey started, uh, with my,

through my biofeedback practice.

So I've been practicing for 15 years,

and about eight years ago I was at a wellness show

and I, uh, I, uh,

heard David speak on stage

and, uh, what he was talking about just really resonated

with me and, uh, compelled me to go to the booth

and learn a little more

and, uh, hopefully be able to purchase products,

uh, for my practice.

So I did that and I met David at the booth.

I met Fedor, he was already with the company

and, um, set up an account

and started buying some products, um,

and using them in my practice.

What was it that he said a Bit

That caught you?

Oh, can you remember? Gosh, I don't really remember.

It was, I think just a lot of things that he said that,

you know, uh,

how the products really make a difference in people's lives.

Mm-Hmm. Um, and,

and really how it helps people with depression

and anxiety, which is such a common thing

that people will come in to see me for as well.

And, uh, yeah.

I dunno, just, you know how energy works that way, right?

When you meet or hear somebody, it just,

when it feels right, it feels right,

and you just feel like that's where you need to, that's

where you're led to go.

Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, I mean,

I it sounds like you've listened

to like his whole speech, his whole story.

Yes. And yeah, they dive obviously into the,

the history of True Hope.

Yes. Um, kind of the, the beginning pieces that, the kind

of the tragedy piece that leads into a

very triumphant right.

Story. Exactly. And then the necessary need

for the initial product and Power plus.

Mm-Hmm. And then how they've, you know,

bought the other ones into it as well.

Mm-Hmm. So, yeah, it's probably not just like one thing

that he would've said, but just like the whole whole story

is actually super captivating.

And if you do have the opportunity to listen to it Mm-Hmm.

It's not like a quick three minute speech Mm-Hmm.

It's a 40 minute, sometimes couple of hours presentation.

Yes, there are.

Um, you know, we've interviewed David on the podcast

and his dad an Anthony as well, the founder.

Yes. So those stories, we go into more depth on those

episodes, which I'll also connect in the show notes

for this one, but, Mm-Hmm.

Um, so you're at this, you're at the show.

You hear David speak, you tell,

you hear more about the story, you go to the booth.

Mm-Hmm. You meet people behind the company a little bit.

Mm-Hmm mm-Hmm. And then you start using the products in your

Practice? Yeah, so I

start using products

and, um, I start, you know, seeing results with my clients

and, uh, and uh, I start a rapport

with the sales rep at the time, uh, in the area.

And we would, uh, meet up

and I was, uh, I guess as a practitioner, um,

selling a fair bit of product.

So, um, I was, um,

my biofeedback practice, you know, is more of a part-time

practice, um, could be busier,

but, uh, at the time it was, you know, sort of part-time.

And I had mentioned to, um, Antonina the other sales rep

that, uh, you know, if they ever needed any help

with something, I just really love the product

and I love to get behind something that I really believe in

and I get passionate about.

So, uh, the day came where she was moving on

to something else and, uh, gave me a call,

asked me if I was interested in working for the company,

and I thought, yeah, I think I do.

I think I am. So set up a call with David.

We had a nice little phone interview

and, um, he offered me the job

and, um, I said, okay, I'll let you know tomorrow.

And I didn't really need to think about it,

but I just had to sit with it for a day.

Yeah, of course. And, uh, sure I took the job and, um,

and uh, the following week we did our, um,

our online Zoom meeting.

And, uh, I remember the meeting starting with, uh,

with prayer, and I was like, wow, okay.

I know I'm in the right place now.

And it just, again, just completely resonated with me.

And, and I, you know, have never regretted that decision.

It's been a, it's been a, a really great journey.

Um, you know, there's been some challenges along the way,

like in, in any business,

but, uh, you know, um, yeah, I've,

it's been really, it's been great.

And really at the end

of the day it was about getting the

product out to more people.

You know, in my little practice I could get it out

to a few people, but I thought, you know what, if I am able

to go out and get it into more stores

and to more practitioners,

then more people can benefit from the use

of the product. So

When you were using the product in your practice

before you were working with True Hope mm-Hmm.

What were you, what were you,

and what were they experiencing with it?

Uh, just improvement in their, in their mood, uh,

depending on, on the case, right.

So, you know, with anxiety, you know, just improvement in,

in, in their anxiousness, um, uh, in their,

you know, ability to cope with stressful situations, uh,

depression, you know, that was a big one,

that people would start to feel better.

And I'm thinking like, wow.

Like it's amazing that a product as simple

as this can actually make a person feel less depressed and,

and, and just more happy.

I mean, I have clients that call it their happy pill

'cause it makes them feel so much better.

So, uh, you know, it was, it was a lot

of those common things.

Um, a DD in, in with some people with children.

I had a client who was, um, autistic.

I think she was at the time, was about eight years old.

And, um, she, being autistic, you know, they're very,

very taste sensitive and texture sensitive when they eat.

So this little girl would like hardly eat anything. Yeah.

She was basically on very basic,

basic foods that she would eat.

And so the mother would actually cook

the product into her pancakes.

Mm-hmm. And to my amazement, it still worked.

'cause I thought heat would probably change the, the,

the ability for the product to do what it needed to do.

But in this girl's case, it, it made a difference.

So, yeah, it was pretty,

pretty interesting what it would do for children.

And that's, that's really my, um, it's always kind

of been my, my drive is to try

to help more children with this product.

Yeah. It's, it's really interesting

because you've got this perspective of before coming

and working with the company

and making that decision that you've,

you've seen the product work Mm-Hmm.

In, in quite a few different examples

and quite a few different people and a few different,

um, pathologies.

Mm-Hmm. And that obviously made the kind of decision,

the motivation to like work with the company.

You've seen what it does, seen

what seen what the product can do.

Yeah. Absolutely. Made that a little bit simpler.

How, so how long have you been working with True Hope?

Eight years. Eight years? Mm-Hmm.

Can you sum up those eight years?

Wow. No, it went really fast as it always does.

Uh, yeah, no, eight years. It's been great.

I mean, honestly, the company is, um,

it's a very small family business

and I grew up in family business,

so I understand the dynamics of what, you know,

comes with a family business.

Um, so, you know, it, uh, it's been,

um, it's been good.

It's been, uh, easy in a sense

because of the flexibility that they allow.

Um, so for me, you know, having my practice as well,

you know, I'm, I try to sort of juggle the two

and, uh, you know, having the flexibility that they give me,

um, makes it so much easier to, to do what I need to do.

Um, and, uh, I started off just with, uh,

the Territory actually was broken into.

I started off with everything on the

north side of the Fraser River.

And, um, and then the other rep

that was doing the other side, uh, eventually moved away

and they asked me if I wanted to do the other side.

And I kind of thought about it

and thought, yeah, okay,

I think I can manage it, I'll give it a try.

And, uh, I did.

And, uh, it's, it's, you know, a lot more work,

of course, a lot more driving.

I work all the way out to Chillowak

and, um, you know, white Rock and Richmond.

And then I also get to do the Sunshine Coast

and Whistler in Pemberton.

Um, but, uh, I've made some great connections

with customers on the other side of the river, so I'm

so glad that I have that part of the territory.

Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I don't spend a whole lot

of time in Vancouver, but I can imagine you've probably got

an Ace toe and Mpower Plus in your like,

passenger seat 'cause of the traffic.

Yeah. No, I don't.

But yeah, I, I should,

I should An also toe in particular. Yeah.

Traffic travel packs. Oh my goodness, that'd be great.

Yeah. Yeah. So how, um, like, is,

is there anything particular that you enjoy,

like the most working with, with True Hope?

Is it, is it, is it the products?

Is it the people you get to support? Is it the stores?

I mean, sure, it's a combination of most things,

but like, you, you've been here for eight years, you know,

that's quite a long period of time.

Mm-Hmm. Is there anything in particular that's like

kept you, kept you not going, but like Yeah.

Kept you motivated to keep

Doing more? I, I think it's

my, I think it's a lot the people, right?

The people that I, that my customers as well as the people

that are on our team

and the company, um, you know, the customers,

you know, you know now.

I mean, they all have gotten to know me really well.

And it's kind of funny 'cause I was away for a week

and one customer tried calling me while I was away.

And, uh, of course I didn't get back to her.

And then she called again,

and then I got, I, I saw her calling

and I emailed her and said, Hey, I'm away for a week.

Oh, thank goodness, I thought you'd left.

She was, I was so worried. And I'm like, I don't worry.

I'll let you know if I'm leaving,

but I'm not going anywhere yet.

Um, so just having those connections with people

that really care about you.

Um, this industry is a very, um, caring industry.

People that work in health, um,

especially I think in alternative health like we do, um,

are very open and caring people.

They tend to be more empathetic.

And so as a sales person, uh,

which I've done other roles in the past,

in other businesses, um, you know, you always tend to tend

to get a bit of a resistance when you walk into a

store wherever you're walking into.

Uh, and I don't find that in this industry, uh, in general,

people are willing to talk to you.

They're open, they're, um, you know, the level of resistance

that you get is, is minimal

and it makes it so much easier to do your job.

Right. And people just wanna know more.

They wanna understand more about the products they wanna,

you know, uh, have a rapport.

And I mean, there's a lot of customers now that, you know,

will just have a, have a personal relationship with.

And that's, you know, a blessing from having this type of,

um, type of business.

So, yeah. Yeah.

So it's really about the people,

but what it does for everybody in general, it's

such a life changing product that, you know,

the stories you hear along the way, um, is, is really

what gives you, you know, satisfaction and, and,

and, you know, I just feel so gratified to be able

to do something like this.

Well, health food stores are very unique

because I was just thinking in my head there of like,

where did, where would you go as a brand new customer

or an existing customer where you would go

to like the health section of like a health food store?

Mm-Hmm. And you actually have a conversation

and you engage with the employees there, right?

Like if I go to the grocery store,

I'm not going really be asking about like, the Apples

and this Apple selection

to like the people in the grocery store.

Right. If I go to a clothing store, I might be asking

for sizes or something, but it's not really anything

of like deep No, but not value,

but like personal, you kind of personal Yeah.

Personal. But when you go into a health food store

and you are looking to find a product for a particular thing

that you're going through, Mm-Hmm.

You obviously have to express what you're going through.

Maybe some of the symptoms, how long it's been going on for,

and you're kind of having like a mild consultation Mm-Hmm.

And in most cases, in most, most health food stores,

the people in the supplement section

are very well knowledged.

A lot of them are nutritionists, A lot

of them have got a lot of education behind them,

which is amazing because I think it's a big responsibility

for these stores to hire those types of people

because they're gonna be having these

engagements on the floor. That's

Right. And

we're so blessed with True Hope that we're able

to like, create these like, online courses.

So we're able to keep these employees up to date

and educated with the latest research, the latest.

Um, like yes, we get a lot of feedback in regards

to questions about the product,

and we wanna make sure that the next like level

of our education

that we're we're putting out there is

answering all those questions.

Yeah. 'cause we get like, questions just all over the place.

And the best feedback we ever get is from our customers.

Mm-Hmm. But it's just very interesting that, yeah, like you

go into a health food store, you go to a supplement section,

and if you do have questions, um,

you have a very unique engagement with,

with the people working there.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. That's for sure.

And they get to know some pretty personal things

about their customers.

Yeah. And they end up having a relationship, right?

They do. That's usually their local store they would go to.

That's right. And so many cases where we see Yeah.

Um, employees in these stores are like seeing people come

back for the product, you know?

Yes. They wanna make sure that they're able to, they,

they come back and get it for their next month

or a couple of months more and they might ask

questions about the other products

and how they like work together.

And people end up becoming like, you know,

wonderful long-term Mm-Hmm.

Customers and, Mm-Hmm. It's a,

it's a really beautiful thing because yeah.

People are going into their local health food stores

and they are building a little community there. Yeah,

Absolutely. That's for sure.

And people tend to be very loyal to their,

to their stores for the most part.

So Yeah, it's true.

You do see that a lot in this industry as well.

Um, the other thing that um, you know, that comes to mind is

that, that I enjoyed about, I enjoyed

because we don't do it anymore,

but we used to, uh, attend the wellness and health shows

and, you know, weekend here and weekend there

and, um, as much work as they were

and, you know, on your feet all day

and talking to people at the same time, I think it used

to really energize me and drive me

because it's a different, uh, we're dealing with different,

um, we're dealing with the end customer there,

so we get to hear more stories.

Yeah. We get to actually consult more with people.

And I, you know, I really enjoy that part of it.

We don't do that as much anymore because now we have you

and we do social media

and that type of advertising,

which has been extremely beneficial.

And um, uh, you know,

and that education piece I think is just

so vitally important.

And that's one of the things that I've been happy

to watch grow in this company.

'cause when I started we didn't have that.

We just as reps would have to educate.

Uh, and when you're new, you know, it's your, your ability

to do that well is not, you know,

it doesn't come that naturally right.

On the beginning. Right. So it's so nice now

that we have our True Hope University and,

and our live trainings that we do, uh, to be able

to educate the, the staff in the stores.

'cause there's no question that when the staff is trained,

they are able to talk about the product

with so much more confidence.

Mm-Hmm. And recommend it. And we see sales go up in the

stores 'cause they are

definitely recommending our product more.

And it's just not one

of those products that sells by itself.

It does require a bit of explanation,

Certainly. And the, and

the customers respond to those staff members

who clearly know what they're talking about

when it comes to those products.

And it's like somebody comes in

and they're dealing with like anxiety

or de depression, I think most

employees will immediately go to Empower Plus within

that, within their train of thought.

Mm-Hmm. Because we've been able to supply them

with such great knowledge and clear information

and forum to be able to ask questions.

Absolutely. Is There a typical store that you

like work with?

Like large stores, small stores?

You obviously work with practitioners as well, right?

Mm-Hmm. Have practitioner accounts. Mm-Hmm.

Like, so tell us a little bit more about that. Mm-Hmm.

Uh, no, there's no sort of typical store.

I have the bigger stores like the chains, um, as well

as the mom and pop shops that are just very small.

Either one, you know, uh, person business

or a couple of people work in there.

You know, it's usually the owners

that are there all the time.

I would say the majority of them are

those stores, to be honest.

Yeah. Um, and, uh,

and then practitioners, uh, mostly naturopathic, uh,

doctors will use our products.

Uh, I've got a number of them that use, uh,

and recommend the products religiously.

One that works mostly with children.

I think we did a podcast with a couple of them actually.

And, um, another one who deals more with concussions

and, um, you know, it's just part of their protocol.

So it's, uh, um, yeah, it's good.

We actually need a few more practitioners.

It's kinda my goal for this year is

to get a few more naturopaths on board.

That's a strong goal. I like that. Mm-Hmm.

Um, so we covered

your biofeedback practice in episode eight, so you can check

that out if you wanna go into Mm-Hmm.

Into a deep dive into that.

But can you maybe give us a brief,

'cause I wanna talk about, um, how

that practice connects with our product.

So can you give us like a brief overview of

what biofeedback is?

Mm-Hmm. So biofeedback is basically using quantum physics

and energy and frequency.

Um, I have a device that is, um, connected to the person

through straps and uses the premise

of galvanic skin response, which is

what you use when you do a lie detector test.

Ah, or when you go to the hospital

and they clip on that oxygen clip on your finger

to measure your oxygen level.

That's, that's a form of biofeedback.

Um, and our software is, um, built

with 12,000 different frequencies that we,

when we run the test, we basically, it's, I call it a,

an energetic prick and react.

You don't really feel anything,

but it tests against the body.

And what it feeds back is what is acutely out of balance,

what is chronically out of balance.

And, um, so I'm able to basically assess people's

whole sort of picture Mm-Hmm.

From their nutrition

and hormones to, uh, their emotions to, um,

organ imbalances.

And, um, we, we, yeah, we get a very clear picture toxicity,

which is super important, pathogens, et cetera.

And we look at everything.

And then we also send back frequency

to help open up the pathways Mm-Hmm.

Of healing, allow the body to start to do what it needs

to do, reduce stress in the body,

which is usually the biggest, um, factor

that is stopping the body from doing what it needs.

Right. So, um, it's, uh, it's very encompassing.

People tend to walk away, sometimes a little overwhelmed,

uh, but also with a sense of direction

and with, um, a sense of wellbeing

because they feel more relaxed after the session.

Do you do the same kind of, it's obviously not a test.

Is it a test? Would you call it a test? Yeah.

So would you do the same kind of test with everybody or

after an intake form you can kind of get an idea of like,

what they're dealing with and then,

and then, um, like focus it on that area, whether

that's like hormonal or digestive or neurological Mm-Hmm.

Yeah, the test is always the same.

The, the input form that's in the software will kind

of fine tune, like what the questions will kind

of fine tune a little bit.

Uh, and then, you know,

once I give the client the test results, then we talk about

what they are here for.

Mm-Hmm. Because I don't really wanna skew the test for them

so that they understand that the results are,

what their unconscious is, is feeding back.

Right. Um, so after we get through the information

and I say, you know, well, you should say, okay, well

what is it you want me to look at?

What do you want me to work on now

that you know this Mm-Hmm.

What did you come in for? And, uh,

and then we'll focus a bit on both kind of look at

what they want me to, to focus on as well as what,

what their unconscious is telling us.

So it's a bit of both

Interesting. 'cause Yeah, I think the

whole, the whole like energetic

piece for a lot of people is very hard

to wrap their heads around.

Mm-Hmm. True. We've, you know, we kind of, uh, well,

we definitely do experience a world with our limited senses,

and that's kind of like how the,

how we feel like the whole world works.

But when we kind of talk about things like energy

or like deep within the body, a lot of people kind

of get lost because there's a Mm-Hmm.

There's a mixed understanding there. Mm-Hmm.

Do you get a lot of resistance when you're talking about

like, energy and frequency and, and healing people?

Or do people who come

and see you, are they often already educated

and they're like already invested in it?

Um, yeah, to answer your question, really, uh, the people

that come to me are not typically always educated.

They usually come from a referral Mm-Hmm.

And, uh, so they don't really know what they're coming for.

They just know that they're gonna come

and get some information

and they're gonna walk away with, you know,

hopefully a plan of action.

And, um, I always explain it to them

and, um, um,

and I really only deal with people that wanna be there.

Sure. Of course. In the, in the past, I, I, you know,

would try to explain it to people and tell them, you know,

but you know, again,

if you don't really understand a little tiny bit about

energy and quantum physics,

and it's really hard for people to get their head around it.

Okay. Yeah. You're absolutely right.

Um, so I don't really bother, I, I deal with people

that have a little bit of understanding.

Some people come in with a lot of understanding Yeah.

And it makes the job very easy.

Um, or they've had it done before.

And a lot of my clients are repeat clients

that come in on a regular basis.

Um, some come every few weeks, some come every month

or every two or three months,

and they just come back for, for more.

And also to see if what we're doing is working.

Um, so yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a challenging subject.

When I started at 15 years ago,

I didn't even really understand it that well.

So it was a very, uh, large learning curve for myself. Yeah.

And then to try to get other people

to understand what I was doing.

It was, yeah, it was tough. Okay.

There's way more knowledge out there now. Sure.

Yeah. There's loads more books,

there's some more podcasts about the whole topic.

Documentaries about lots about like sub subatomic, uh,

quantum physics and mechanics is a lot more kind

of like explainable to the average person.

Yes. Yeah. Which is really, really helpful to have

that educational piece behind, behind something like that.

Yeah. And so during these sessions, there is a,

know the machine, the machinery that you're using will

target frequencies to help individuals heal, right?

Yes. Or Create balances, like how would you

Describe that? Correct. So there

are, uh, in the software, like I said,

there's 12,000 different frequencies.

So everything in the universe can be measured.

The frequency can be measured just like your voice has a

certain frequency that you recognize as your voice, right?

Mm-Hmm. That's your frequency.

Um, so everything is measured and, uh,

and input into our software system.

So some of the frequencies will be things like, uh,

perhaps like an organ.

So we would test the liver

and say, okay, how is the liver responding?

But then there'll probably be dozens of frequencies

that are just remedies for the liver, right?

And so what I would look at is, okay, well

what are the top 10

or 20 frequencies that come up that are showing an imbalance

that basically is telling us the body wants these

frequencies to help with the liver.

Right. And I would send those frequencies to the body

to help the liver find its way

into a better place. Cool. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it's frequencies.

I mean, we, obviously they're around us all of the time.

Mm-Hmm. Like the fact that I'm making sounds

with my voice Mm-Hmm.

That's traveling to your, like stapes in your ear.

And that's translating as sounds that we, it's mad,

it's absolutely insane that we do that as humans

and animals as well.

But these, these things that you're talking about there

around us all of the time Mm-Hmm.

Like, um, so much of communication,

so much energy is just frequency and Yeah.

It's, it's wrapped around us and it's just

because we don't maybe like, talk about it too much.

Yeah. Or it's not a part of like, normal education that we

put it more in the realm of mysticism

For sure. But then,

you know, I always tell people that, you know,

when you meet someone, you, you pick up on a person's energy

and frequency right away.

Right. You can tell if a person is, you know, warm or cold

or there's something negative about them or,

and we all have that ability to do that and we know it.

Yeah. Definitely. So we all are in tune with our energy,

you know, and, uh, I think we,

we just don't perhaps hone in on it enough,

but it's, everyone knows what energy is.

I, I think, and also in the software,

we also look at like people's auras.

And sometimes it's interesting because auras

and chakras, uh, if you're, you know, that's part

of your belief system, uh, can be tangled

with all kinds of different things.

And, um, it comes up frequently

where we'll see things in the aura

that are negative energies perhaps,

and people are carrying negative energies from other people.

Yeah. Or sometimes perhaps from a, you know, um,

a spiritual energy

or something like that, that they're caring and,

and that's why they feel so terrible.

Yeah. So we work to clear that

It's a very interesting bridge between like

ancient medicine Mm-Hmm.

Ancient understanding of like these energy centers

that we do have in our body.

Mm-Hmm. And using technology in like today's age, like,

is a really beautiful way of like Yeah.

Demystifying the, like, the mystical into something

that's much more like what we would call,

like scientific real and factual and evidence-based. Yeah.

Yeah. You could have said it better. It's true. Yeah.

It's interesting. That's awesome.

Um, tell me how our products,

true hopes products have, have worked with that

biofeedback practice,

because obviously that was like the catalyst

for your interest in the products.

Mm-Hmm. Your catalyst for getting involved in the company.

Mm-Hmm. How, how have you seen, um, biofeedback work

with the products and the products work with biofeedback?

And how has that kind of changed through the,

like 15 years that you've been doing it? Mm-Hmm.

So, uh, one of the things I'm able to do with, uh,

my device is to test a product, uh, to see if it resonates

for that person at that time.

Uh, kind of like bigot testing that a naturopath will do.

Okay. We test things

or like even kinesiology where you do muscle testing similar

to that, but it's again, done through, through the software.

Um, so I will test the product

that I think the customer needs.

So, uh, uh, you know, obviously depends on what presents.

So if I start to see, uh, like a couple

of days ago I had a client in and she, you know, sadness

and depression were all coming up as, you know, really top

of her, um, information that was, that was acute.

And, uh, and then of course, you know,

in our sessions we talked deeply about what's going on.

So when I see things like that, okay,

what's the sadness about?

Where's it coming from? What do you, what's going on?

What are you doing about it? Like, you know, how,

how do we help you with this?

Right. So that's where I would, you know, go to our empower

and, uh, and then I would test it on the test plate.

And if it resonates, my, my goal is use 75% or more.

Usually in these cases it comes up like 9900%.

And then the customer will tend to wanna buy it at

that point because they wanna try it.

Of course. Um, I've explained the product to them

and, and they'll try it.

Um, the other one that's very common for me is the,

uh, nascent iodine.

Uh, because more often than not, I would say yeah,

probably 70% of people that I see there's gonna be a bit

of an imbalance with their T three

and their T four in their, in their thyroid.

Um, a lot of it comes from adrenal fatigue,

adrenal exhaustion, which tends

to trip up the thyroid gland.

So that's another common one that I'll recommend

to people is, is the nascent iodine.

Um, I'd say the most common things people come in

for is because they're tired.

They're tired, they don't know why they're tired,

their doctor doesn't know why they're tired.

Then, you know, why am I tired? So Right.

Once I test them, it's usually, uh,

usually it's adrenal fatigue and thyroid hypothyroid.

Um, and so once I put them on iodine

and something for the adrenals, often the empower as well,

you know, they'll start to see a change

within usually about a month.

Yeah. Amazing. Mm-Hmm. I'm just gonna do the camera.

Mm-Hmm.

And I need a tissue 'cause my nose is dripping. Oh, is it?

Yeah. Grab me a

Oh yeah, of course. Thank you.

Try not to wipe my nose in the camera. Good

For you. When I'm talking

I'm not, when I'm talking.

Yeah. The camera's gonna be

On me. Okay.

Good to know. So, okay.

Once I got this, how I'm good. Okay.

You can really chill when I'm talking. This is going well.

I know. I'm chatting way more

than I thought I was going to.

Huh? I'm talking way more than I

Thought. That's great.

Have you used biofeedback with many teens?

I wanna talk about teens, depression, anxiety, 2023

and the insanity that we're all going through,

but especially our young people who are still like, trying

to figure out like what they,

who they are and what the world is.

Yeah. Have you had many, like, like teenagers come in and,

and, and try the tech and try the products? Mm.

I, I wouldn't say a lot, unfortunately.

I would like to see more of them,

but it's always a challenge for parents to convince them

to come in 'cause they don't really

understand what I'm doing.

So, um, I have some, I have a lot of, um,

also more like youth, like early twenties.

Um, and, uh, yeah, it, it's, yeah, again, I wish I could,

I wish I could see more of 'em.

I don't see a lot of teens unfortunately,

but I hear about them, I hear about them

through the practice and through our stores, you know, um,

the amount of parents that are going in looking

for a solution for their, for their teenagers.

Um, yeah.

And that's definitely something that we talk a lot about.

We, we, we, you know, the anatol being one,

I think the majority I always hear about is

anxiety for the most part.

Yeah. So we start with Anatol to see if we can

manage the anxiety,

but we know that the empower gets more into the, um,

you know, root cause of, of anxiety.

Yeah. Such a wild time for teenage,

like maybe we could get biofeedback into schools going there

and, you know, maybe doing some sort of like seminar, like

what it's all about and then using a couple of examples.

It's just like getting that exposure is very difficult

and I don't think a 17, 16-year-old is gonna like, look up

or find through Yeah.

However means to like

Yeah, Exactly. Look it up

and how to do it.

It's gonna be primarily off the parent's back.

I would for sure. I would think. Yeah.

And yeah, like I have the, I have the access and the,

and pleasure of like,

getting all the messages from our website

and our social media and Mm-Hmm.

Every, every week there's multiple messages

that come in about like, can this product support my

daughter, my son, who's like, struggling with school?

And whether that's just the educational piece

that comes with it or the Mm-Hmm.

The peer pressure or the, you know, just the, the stress

of just being a teenager in general.

Mm-Hmm mm-Hmm. Aside of the hormonal shift that that happens

as well where the body just completely changes its, um,

utilization of resources.

Yes. And, um, these products obviously provide steady,

steady foundation

for anybody going through anything stressful.

Um, have you seen, like, are there any big, like,

bigger examples of using Empower Plus in aminos

with like young kids in, in that, in that kind

of a stressful teenage setting? Mm-Hmm.

Yeah. Uh, I mean I do have a, a few cases of my own like,

that I have put on, uh, these products

and, you know, we've seen some great results.

The challenge with teenagers too is

that they don't really wanna do it

unless they really buy into it.

Yeah. They don't really wanna do

what their parents are telling them to do.

And, um, and they're not very good at being

di disciplined about it.

Okay. So it's a bit of a challenge

unless they notice a a difference themselves.

Sometimes the person taking it isn't the person

that always notices the difference.

It's the people around them. That's

Interesting. So,

you know, it's again, a challenge

'cause the parents will say, well, yeah,

you seem way better, but you

know, teenagers like Yeah, sure.

Right. Like they just their attitudes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kind of in the way unfortunately.

But that's just who they are. 'cause they're going through

so much in their life and,

you know, they're finding their way.

So they're, you know, definitely a challenge.

But that's one of the reasons I'm happy

that we're doing more social media work

because I feel that that demographic will find us

and perhaps be more inclined Yeah.

To try our products because they see it on social media.

Yeah. It's a big, it's obviously a big drive

and a motivator for us to be able to share those stories,

those testimonials Mm-Hmm.

And have the option of like, more

of a longer form discussion

where people can watch this maybe a 40 minute,

hour long podcast where we're talking about

the benefits of these products.

Mm-Hmm. And I think that most people have got a pretty good,

like BS radar Mm-Hmm.

And they're gonna listen to us have this conversation,

they're gonna recognize it's authentic

and they're gonna maybe take the next step

to maybe go into a health food store,

check out the website, et cetera.

And I think that's the super, the, the one

of the main valuable things about Yeah.

Having a format like this.

And, you know, while, while whilst I've been in Vancouver,

we've, we've met up with some other amazing people.

Yeah. Um, Sally, who's a, a practitioner here in Vancouver,

and we had an amazing interview

with her daughter who Mm-Hmm.

17 dealing with like the stresses of being a teenager

with the high expectations of education and Mm-Hmm.

How this product without like, gave her the ability to,

gave her her like thoughts back Mm-Hmm.

Gave her the space to be able to do all the other things

that kind of made her happy

before like school got really, really stressful.

Mm-Hmm. And there are th I feel like there are

thousands and thousands of people

obviously out there struggling.

Mm-Hmm. And it's such a simple, easy,

accessible solution Mm-Hmm.

That it's just getting the message out there

and getting the word out there and people being able to

watch something like this

and then have the, like, the belief, the faith

to reach out a little bit further Mm-Hmm.

And then try it for themselves and be consistent with it.

Yeah. Absolutely.

And that, and that's really the key is, is the consistency.

Um, you know, like I said,

without age group it's a bit tough.

But, um, there's a, there's a few that, you know, come

to mind that, you know, it really changed their life

for, for the better.

Like, you know, you know, 15, you know, anxiety,

like just constant, uh, low mood for years and years

and then, um, you know, can remember one story

and like two weeks later the mother texts me

and says, oh my goodness,

my daughter told me she was happy today.

I haven't heard that in years.

And, um, and that continued

and that was, I think four or five years ago.

And she continues to take the product today. Amazing. Yeah.

Yeah. I've got a couple of buddies

of mine back in Camloops who have got the,

got the product into their like teenage kids Mm-Hmm.

Who are just like struggling with Yeah.

Just struggling with the everyday things Mm-Hmm.

And these people are quite active as well.

So they got quite excited about taking an amino acid product

as well that's gonna kind of

help 'em with their fitness regime.

And literally, like the two examples I'm thinking

of in my mind, I'm obviously not gonna

name names or anything Mm-Hmm.

But, uh, within days they started their anxious thoughts

that they would wake up with every day

that were quite crippling.

Yeah. Or like just disappearing. Yeah.

Like super, super quickly. Like

Super quick. Yeah.

Just, it's just a testament to how the,

well the product's been, um, formulated

that it doesn't matter like how poor your digestion is,

you're gonna up uptake these

vitamins, minerals, antioxidants.

Yeah. And they're gonna work within your body

because it's literally just food

that your body's used to taking up Mm-Hmm.

In many cases just been starved of Mm-Hmm.

And it's gonna get into the brain,

it's gonna get into all cells around the body,

and it's gonna start doing wonderful things.

And then those parents see the benefit

and then they've been asking me questions about it for them.

And then it's just like, yeah,

like this product doesn't matter if you're suffering

with something or you just wanna make sure that you are, um,

taking care of your like foundational nutrition.

Mm-Hmm. It's a go, it's a go-to product.

Absolutely. And also, you know, one of the things,

I always recommend it for young people

and people in universities for mental focus, right.

Because they're so overwhelmed with, you know,

their studies, but you know, everything else

that's going on around them in their lives.

And it really, I have had a number of, you know,

students tell me that it's helped with mental focus

and just to be able to study a little bit better and easier.

So that's been helpful too.

And the one thing too that comes into my mind going

to the other end of the age spectrum is, um, you know,

my personal experience with my mother who has Alzheimer's,

um, you know, she was diagnosed when she was, um,

88, I think it was about 87, 88.

And, uh, I put her on the, um, the Empower

and the Free Immunos and, uh,

did also alter her diet though took, took sugar

and carbs out of her diet as much as I possibly could.

But, uh, she remained very steady.

Like it didn't reverse it,

but it certainly helped maintain as opposed

to see her go down really fast.

Interesting. And we are now like nine years out

and, you know, she's now starting to clench.

She's gonna be 96 in a few weeks

and, um, you know, she's starting to decline a little more.

But again, her mental stability has been pretty good

as far as memory goes. And, um,

And nine years is kind of long.

Like usually it's a, it's a quick decline. Mm-Hmm.

It is. So I, I do attribute the product, uh,

in helping with that.

But I, you know, as I said, I can't see it reversing it. No.

Okay. Once you're already in play,

but, you know, could certainly prevent Yeah.

I would think too. So another thing you're

just nourishing the brain of course. Makes, makes sense.

Yeah. I don't think I would've got through

having two young kids with such grace.

Yeah. My wife might, uh, argue that case,

but I don't think, honestly I've they don't give you,

or you don't know how much parenting is

just an absolute Yeah.

Struggle. It's so difficult. It's just like gives you a

completely new perspective on time, sleep,

energy, food, and all those things.

Mm-Hmm. And I don't think I would've got through it.

Um, positively, I'm gonna say Mm-Hmm.

Um, with without Power Plus. Mm-Hmm.

It was just like, it was just this like kind of saving grace

and I could tell when I missed a couple of days, I was like,

oh, why am I so agitated and, and frustrated?

Oh, you know, tell you what,

I've haven't had a plus in a couple of days,

so that's my, that's my fault.

Yeah. And I get back on it

and then it's like, okay, it's all good.

Yeah, absolutely. I'm the same.

I kind of notice it more when I'm not taking it

and then go, oh, whoops.

Yeah, let's take that again

and keep, keep on track. Awesome.

So for customers, for health store owners

who, and practitioners that I might listen to this

and who don't have our product and

yet like where's the best place for them to connect with you

to maybe come and talk more about it

or to, you know, to start ordering it up? Mm-Hmm.

Well, uh, you can reach me through our, um, website

or email me, I guess, uh, lorell@truhope.com.

Um, or call me or call the company

and they'll put you in touch with me.

Or if you're in another part of Canada,

of course you can get in touch with a rep

that's in the area for our products.

'cause they are across Canada now.

So Yeah. All the way. Amazing.

Mm-Hmm. Thanks Ella. That was fun. Yeah,

Thanks Simon. Yeah, it was fun.

Okay, cool. Uh, that is it for this episode

of True Hope Cast, the official podcast of True Hope Canada.

We'll be back, uh, with you next week

and I'll make sure, I will leave links in the show notes

for connecting with lo past

episodes that we've discussed as well.

But, uh, yeah, that's it for this week. We'll see you soon.

Alright. Thank you.